Thread Number: 76572
/ Tag: Vintage Dishwashers
Heating water Hell |
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Post# 1004279 , Reply# 1   8/20/2018 at 22:22 (2,046 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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The SR uses a different thromostat, it might have a wire off it or it might be a bad thromostat, it could also be a bad program switch, or timer or a broken or disconnected wire elsewhere, but it probably shouldn't take over 20 minutes if your water is that hot, this DW was designed to work properly with 120F incoming water.
John L. |
Post# 1004304 , Reply# 2   8/21/2018 at 03:46 (2,046 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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I notice in the picture your bottom panel cover is off. I assume it was off during your test? From my experience the t-stat is sensitive enough that the cooler air coming in under the dishwasher affects what it is sensing and so it never detects the true temp of the water in the tub. Try it again with the cover in place and see if there is any difference.
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Post# 1004309 , Reply# 3   8/21/2018 at 05:37 (2,046 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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No, something certainly seems amiss IMHO. Even on a 120v circuit twenty minutes seems long enough to heat tap cold water to 140F or above, this much less boost hot water ten or so degrees.
In situations like this one reaches for our handy-dandy infrared thermometer. Wouldn't be without one! Saves bending and allows for easier (and safer)reading of temps. |
Post# 1004524 , Reply# 4   8/22/2018 at 19:35 (2,045 days old) by Spacedogb (Lafayette, LA)   |   | |
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Update, finally after about 25 mins. The dishwasher started up and completed the wash. Not very impressed with the performance. |
Post# 1004526 , Reply# 5   8/22/2018 at 19:51 (2,045 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 1004537 , Reply# 6   8/22/2018 at 22:58 (2,044 days old) by Spacedogb (Lafayette, LA)   |   | |
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When I finished load I lifted up the lower wash arm and this fell out. No clue where it goes. Maybe it has something to do with the washer performance. |
Post# 1004637 , Reply# 13   8/23/2018 at 23:08 (2,043 days old) by barcoboy (Canada)   |   | |
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I have this exact machine except in black, and my Sani rinse time is about 1/2 hour. I also have a KDS-58, and have to say that of the two of them, it's a toss up as to which one I like better. They both wash amazing (I use Cascade Fryer Boil Out), but I prefer the filtration system of the KUDS23, as the KDS58 seems to leave more gibbles on my glassware, even though the constant rinse arm is present and working. I do prefer though the three final rinses of the 58 compared to the purge and one rinse of the 23, and the Sani rinse seems to heat the water to 180F quicker in the 58 than the 23 heating to 160F.
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Post# 1004722 , Reply# 15   8/24/2018 at 21:02 (2,042 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I believe it was still 2, 700 watt elements, if the DW heats without the main pump running it uses the dual element in the sump.
If it has the larger diameter exposed element it is only 800 watts.
One reason a KDS-18 Sani rinse heats a little faster [ even to its sani rinse temperature of 180F ] is that the 3rd rinse fill on KDS-16 through 18 is less water, the KDS-23 with only one real rinse uses more water to heat to the Sani rinse temperature of 165F.
John L. |
Post# 1023007 , Reply# 17   1/30/2019 at 05:54 (1,884 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Yeah, something sounds off there. My KUDI23 does a fine job except on starchy dried stuff...and I have yet to use a dishwasher that could remove that glue. Is your filter mesh deteriorated under the bottom spray arm? I NEVER use heated dry. Ever since Mother got her original KDS 17A we have always used energy saver dry and I still do. If I'm home or awake when the DW finishes I pop the door open for a flash dry and since my water is 160F it does so instantly. Truthfully, my Maytag did a better job on the dishes with the tiny spray jets and I loved the tapered top rack, but it still needs a little TLC and I'm going to turn it back into a portable to use as a kitchen island and to hold the taller things that I can't fit as well into the KA. When I do a lot of baking I could really use 2 dishwashers anyway. You could tape a clear shower curtain over the door and turn it on to see just what's happening in there or stick a camera in something water proof. |
Post# 1023017 , Reply# 18   1/30/2019 at 07:36 (1,884 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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KA DWs have always had all kinds of little things that can get out of wack and affect washing performance, one of the most common complaints we hear from customers when calling for service is " Not Cleaning Well "
And the truth is that none of the KA DWs from the 21-the 23 or the ISE models cleaned as well as the WP Power Clean DWs. As a WP-KA Authorized service agency we used to change out KA DWs and give the customer a new TOL WP PC machine and no more cleaning or drying complaint.
Hi Greg, you mentioned that your MT DW [ reverse rack I asume ] takes taller items than the KDS-23 ? That was the thing I hated about the MT RR DWs was nothing really big would fit anywhere in them.
John L. |
Post# 1023114 , Reply# 20   1/31/2019 at 01:03 (1,883 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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