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Post# 149288   8/20/2006 at 00:36 (6,451 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        

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It's a Whirlpool model AA-80
Manufacturers Number 541531
Serial Number 3833
Can anyone tell me anything about it?





Post# 149289 , Reply# 1   8/20/2006 at 00:40 (6,451 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Inside

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perforated tub, silver metal agitator (aluminum?), and guess what....it works. agitates and spins as quiet as a maytag.

tub is off center but this happened after we laid it on it's side so I'm sure I can get it back right.


Post# 149290 , Reply# 2   8/20/2006 at 00:41 (6,451 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Button

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for pop-up lid

Post# 149291 , Reply# 3   8/20/2006 at 00:43 (6,451 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Control Panel

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center dial - timed fill - one cycle

Post# 149293 , Reply# 4   8/20/2006 at 00:47 (6,451 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Water temp control

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It appears to be adjustable between hot and warm as it slides between the two settings. Not sure until I do a water test.

I don't know what the "Toggleswitch" does when you turn it on. Hmmmm..... I'll have to play with it and let you know.


Post# 149294 , Reply# 5   8/20/2006 at 00:49 (6,451 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Two magical words

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Automatic Washer
It looks like a blank for a switch that would have been on a more feature rich model.


Post# 149295 , Reply# 6   8/20/2006 at 00:51 (6,451 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Underneath

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Looks pretty good for a mchine as old as this one must be.

Post# 149296 , Reply# 7   8/20/2006 at 00:53 (6,451 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
more...

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The motor looks too clean to be original, and the belt must be a newer one because of the notches.

Post# 149297 , Reply# 8   8/20/2006 at 00:56 (6,451 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
under the top cover

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maybe it's an out of balance switch?

I got this machine today for free. No better price than that.

I'll post more pics after I get it cleaned up. If anyone can help me date this model, please let me know.

thanks, Patrick


Post# 149308 , Reply# 9   8/20/2006 at 01:48 (6,451 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
I don't know anything about it

But it sure is a cool looking machine. That's cool Patrick,
how did you come across this one? It certainly looks to be in
"good" condition.


Post# 149309 , Reply# 10   8/20/2006 at 02:21 (6,451 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Wow! Notice the tranny has no braces. The gizmo in the 9th picture is a water level float -- this machine is before pressure switches for water level. I'm wondering if the toggle switch is a modification.

Post# 149332 , Reply# 11   8/20/2006 at 08:15 (6,451 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Great Find!!

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Great Find Patrick - I hope it can be brought back to life. I guess this is a 54 or 55 model but not sure.
Peter


Post# 149334 , Reply# 12   8/20/2006 at 08:16 (6,451 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Yank open the top panel and put the snubber back in place----that will center the tub. Be sure and "rough up" the (flat side) snubber on a brick or rock so it will work better.

Pretty Whirly!


Post# 149337 , Reply# 13   8/20/2006 at 08:51 (6,451 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi Patrick, that is just fabulous!!! I believe what you have there is a very early production 1956 model of the 1955 Whirlpool washer. You can tell it's a '56 by the Surgilator agitator, in '55 they used a Straight Vane agitator.

Is the agtator cap painted?? Here is lots more info for you, please keep us posted on your restoration and we would love to see some action shots :)...



CLICK HERE TO GO TO unimatic1140's LINK


Post# 149355 , Reply# 14   8/20/2006 at 09:42 (6,451 days old) by westytoploader ()        
YAY!!!!

Congratulations Patrick on the Whirly, what a great find! The Northwestern contingent is raking in the gems, that's for sure!

I too am surprised at how good it looks underneath; didn't know this was a float-switch model either! And that probably is the original motor; my '55 Maytag has an Emerson motor that looks just like yours. On the ninth picture, it appears that the snubber pad has come off the tub ring and fallen off somewhere; if you can find the snubber pad, remove the snubber bracket off and reattach it. If you can't find it, email me and I'll dig around my parts stash for another one!

--Austin


Post# 149368 , Reply# 15   8/20/2006 at 10:53 (6,451 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Hey Patrick - that machine is awesome! So clean, and I'm glad to hear it works just fine! These early Whirlpools are such cool machines - and the first with the Surgliator! Enjoy your new find ~

Ben


Post# 149370 , Reply# 16   8/20/2006 at 11:01 (6,451 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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What a wonderful find. Where did you find it?

You have a nice machine there Mr. Keep us posted.

Steve


Post# 149380 , Reply# 17   8/20/2006 at 11:58 (6,451 days old) by rickr (.)        

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OH!! great catch Patrick! I just love the WP/KM machines from the mid 1950's And they are great machines, that are tough enough to use as a "daily driver" if you want. Congratulations!

Post# 149385 , Reply# 18   8/20/2006 at 13:12 (6,451 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Patrick, beautiful and congratulations. The advertisement Robert posted (the cover) mentions suds saver. I wonder if the toggle switch is suds saver. Is there a Suds Return space on the timer? Otherwise, it could be a water saver switch for starting agitation for smaller loads rather than letting it fill up all the way.

Post# 149387 , Reply# 19   8/20/2006 at 13:19 (6,451 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Thanks Everyone...

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Darrel - I owe this one to (Brian) Northwesty in Seattle who tipped me off. It was a craigslist ad that had no pictures and just said Free Vintage Appliances. The guy didn't return my calls for a week and so I assumed they were already gone. He called Saturday and so I went right over.

Glenn - I can't wait to get the top off and see what everything does. I think you're right about that being a float switch.

Steve (Gyrafoam) - Thanks for the tip about the snubber. I'll take more pics as I tear into it.

Robert - I agree, this machine is fabulous. The ad does say "most wanted by most women"!!! I can't wait to see what features this machine has compared to what the ad says. Thank you VERY MUCH for posting that ad. It tells me a lot.

Austin - Thanks for the parts offering. Should I need anything I'll let you know. The motor has a raised GE logo on the bottom of it. Funny! I noticed the water temp and wash speed switches on my Maytag say General Electric as well. Guess they didn't mind sourcing parts from each other back then.

Ben - I was thrilled to see the familiar Surgilator in the machine. I have always loved that design and think the newer design they replaced it with is ugly.

Steve (mayken*)- I owe it all to craigslist and Northwesty. It's great when members can help other members.

Rickr - Thanks. I can't wait to see if the lid release button lights up the way yours does. Doesn't yours even open the lid automatically when the cycle is through?

Bob - I am very interested in finding out what that switch does. I don't think it's a suds saver because there aren't 2 drain hoses. When I plugged it in and turned it on, it didn't seem to have any effect when toggled back and forth so I'll have to see where the wires lead to. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks All - More to come. Patrick


Post# 149390 , Reply# 20   8/20/2006 at 13:26 (6,451 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        
wow

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oh patrick you lucky little so and so..that pool is a keeper for sure

Post# 149393 , Reply# 21   8/20/2006 at 13:28 (6,451 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Chris

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I thought of the one you found last year when I saw this one. Lots of fun ahead.

Post# 149463 , Reply# 22   8/20/2006 at 18:13 (6,451 days old) by oldwasherguy (Ladson SC)        

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pdub,I just love it and hope to see a video later.don

Post# 149507 , Reply# 23   8/20/2006 at 20:32 (6,450 days old) by sheerlookhomes (U.K.)        
NICE!

pdub - hi! It just looks in amazing condition underneath, congratulations!

Post# 149514 , Reply# 24   8/20/2006 at 21:04 (6,450 days old) by northwesty (Renton, WA)        
Glad the '56 found a home so quickly!

I too am amazed at what looks to be like-new condition underneath. Looking forward to more pictures of it up and running. The old man must have taken good care of his machines. Best of luck.

Post# 149518 , Reply# 25   8/20/2006 at 21:11 (6,450 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

Wow!
What a great looking machine.
It really looks like it is in such great shape!
Looks very rare!
Thanks for the pictures.
Brent


Post# 149568 , Reply# 26   8/21/2006 at 00:33 (6,450 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Congratulations on a beautiful machine, a true treasure. I remember the float chamber on our waterfall front Kenmore. Dad said there was no float in the machine, so I had the service man show it to him. That is not a timed fill. What the word and markings mean is that the machine would fill only in the area marked FILL. That would be from 20 minutes of wash to 11 minutes of wash. It also meant that if you wanted to use the delicate setting, you had to fill the tub and then advance the timer because there was no FILL that far into the wash portion of the cycle. If you wanted a lower water level for any load, you filled it to the level you wanted and then moved the timer to the area beyond FILL (10 minutes or less time) and let it wash along with less water. I really like that modern pointer for the timer, all asymmetrical with that big long pointer extending so far over the skirt. Have fun!

Post# 149576 , Reply# 27   8/21/2006 at 01:36 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Before Cleaning

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What a job... First, let's remove that old cracked cord with a taped on ground wire and replace it with a nice sturdy 3 pronged cord.

Post# 149577 , Reply# 28   8/21/2006 at 01:38 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Side view

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with pump and belt service area door.

Post# 149579 , Reply# 29   8/21/2006 at 01:40 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Rear view

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not sure what the #555 means...

Post# 149580 , Reply# 30   8/21/2006 at 01:41 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
data plate

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model #, serial #, etc.

Post# 149581 , Reply# 31   8/21/2006 at 01:42 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Wiring Diagram

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schematic

Post# 149583 , Reply# 32   8/21/2006 at 01:44 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Toggleswitch mystery solved

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It's a switch to turn of the hot water solenoid, thereby giving a cold water option. Looks like something the owner rigged up.

Post# 149584 , Reply# 33   8/21/2006 at 01:45 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Timer

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etc.

Post# 149585 , Reply# 34   8/21/2006 at 01:47 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Fill flume

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the shield looks home made.

Post# 149587 , Reply# 35   8/21/2006 at 01:48 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Fill flume up close

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interesting filter screen

Post# 149588 , Reply# 36   8/21/2006 at 01:51 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Fill float

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and out of joint snubber holder. Now I know what that piece of hard rubber is for that fell out of the bottom. It is the snubber. Glad it didn't get lost.

Post# 149590 , Reply# 37   8/21/2006 at 01:53 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
First fill

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it's working, so far...

Post# 149591 , Reply# 38   8/21/2006 at 01:54 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
It's full

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Doesn't that top look nice and clean now.

Post# 149592 , Reply# 39   8/21/2006 at 01:56 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
We've got ...

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Agitation! YAY

Post# 149593 , Reply# 40   8/21/2006 at 01:57 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Ariel Oxi-Azul

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Let's add some detergent.

Post# 149594 , Reply# 41   8/21/2006 at 01:58 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
All clean

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Doesn't it look handsome!

Post# 149595 , Reply# 42   8/21/2006 at 02:11 (6,450 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
All done

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Unfortunately there is no shine left to the interior of the porcelain tub but I guess you can't have everything. I'm not sure if the previous owner painted the agitator cap or if that was original. It's definitely black underneath.

One problem: the pump didn't want to turn at first so I had to get it going by turning the shaft with a pair of pliers and spraying into the shaft with WD40. The pump shaft has a zerk fitting on it so I think if I grease it, it should run better since it didn't seem to pump quite fast enough. Now just have to get a grease gun.

To really make it look nice it should be completely repainted. The top is not porcelain that I can tell and looks as though the original owner repainted it himself. There is one of those "Bondurite" finish stickers on the back of the cabinet so that is probably what was used instead of porcelain.

No lights of any kind unfortunately but it's still pretty cool. Amazingly quiet too for a machine of this age. Love the clunk of the solenoid when it changes from agitate to drain to spin. OK, I'm exhausted now. Hope you like it!

Patrick


Post# 149607 , Reply# 43   8/21/2006 at 06:01 (6,450 days old) by sheerlookhomes (U.K.)        
Hansome indeed!

Thanks for sharing the great close-ups, love that agitator top - looks like something aeronautical!

Post# 149617 , Reply# 44   8/21/2006 at 07:04 (6,450 days old) by retromom ()        
Awesome Whirlpool!

What a great find Patrick!! She sure cleaned up well, great surgilator action too!! That little baby is definitely a keeper!!

Congrats and enjoy!!

Venus :-D


Post# 149619 , Reply# 45   8/21/2006 at 07:13 (6,450 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Good job, and so quickly done.

Steve


Post# 149631 , Reply# 46   8/21/2006 at 07:47 (6,450 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Looks great! Cleaned up beautifully.

Has the agitator been spray painted silver? It is strange to see the black coming through.

I have seen Whirly's of that vintage with a kool "marbleized" red and black agitator.


Post# 149645 , Reply# 47   8/21/2006 at 08:32 (6,450 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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What a find! It's cleaning up very nicely, I don't see any rust at all - love the aluminum agitator!

Post# 149816 , Reply# 48   8/21/2006 at 23:40 (6,449 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Thanks All

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I was pretty tired today as I spent most of the day yesterday working on the machine. The agitator cap looks to be spray painted silver to match the aluminum agitator and I'm not sure if that was factory done or not. That's why it looks a little worn with the black coming through. It really doesn't have much rust on it and I think that was due to the climate controlled basement it was in. The owner must have fiddled with it quite a bit over the years as his calling cards are everywhere in the form of paintbrush strokes everywhere inside the cabinet probably to touch up rust and little pieces of masking tape identifying where each wire went to inside the cabinet. Maybe the former owner was a washer fanatic too and just couldn't leave it alone. If so he'll be happy to know it fell into good hands! Thanks to everyone for all your kind comments. I enjoy sharing this with all of you.

Patrick


Post# 149817 , Reply# 49   8/21/2006 at 23:55 (6,449 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Never knew that WP made metal agitators-Surgilators no less-imagine if they chrome plated it!!Wonder if the aluminum one would fit my WP Imperial.-it has a chromed metal agitator cap.Like the "Areonautical"-"bullet" one in that machine.

Post# 149818 , Reply# 50   8/22/2006 at 00:26 (6,449 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Agitator!

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I never realized these machines were made with aluminum Agitators. I remember simular models with black and some red Agitators. But this is such a awsome machine. Is the switch at the side for a suds saver?
Peter



Post# 149896 , Reply# 51   8/22/2006 at 14:30 (6,449 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
The switch

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was apparently added later and controls turning on and off the hot solenoid so you can have cold water only. The main switch only gives you a choice of warm and hot.

Post# 149897 , Reply# 52   8/22/2006 at 14:32 (6,449 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Aluminum agitator

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I wanted to take the agitator off and get a picture of it so you could all see it better but it is stuck fast in place. I don't want to damage it so have left well enough alone for now. Any suggestions on how to get it off?

Patrick


Post# 150297 , Reply# 53   8/24/2006 at 12:56 (6,447 days old) by agiflow ()        
What a beauty......

...that WP is. I was also surprised about the aluminum surgilator,...never knew they made them. Have fun with your classic WP and hope you get many more years out of the old workhorse.

Pat


Post# 150300 , Reply# 54   8/24/2006 at 13:59 (6,447 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
I don't know what the

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Post# 150302 , Reply# 55   8/24/2006 at 14:03 (6,447 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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I don't know what the "Toggleswitch" does when you turn it on. Hmmmm..... I'll have to play with it and let you know.

I may be able to answer this one....... LOL ROFL LMAO




If the timer doesn't go in and out (off and on) is this a main power switch? Sorry if already discussed, have to skim at work.



Post# 150320 , Reply# 56   8/24/2006 at 16:57 (6,447 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Steve, that was just for you!

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I couldn't resist as I typed that out. I figured you must have been busy since you took so long to respond but I'm glad you did.

Anyway, that switch turns on and off the hot solenoid so you could have a cold water wash or rinse.

Patrick


Post# 150327 , Reply# 57   8/24/2006 at 17:27 (6,447 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Patrick, if you want to remove agitator, remove the cap, then then turn the agitator as you pound on the agitator skirt with your fist. I learned this trick from Bob of Hollywood a few years ago.

Post# 150358 , Reply# 58   8/24/2006 at 20:55 (6,446 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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ah so then it WAS aftermarket. Cool beans.

Post# 150393 , Reply# 59   8/24/2006 at 23:42 (6,446 days old) by tidewithbleach ()        
Cool!

I like it!!!!!!!

Post# 150420 , Reply# 60   8/25/2006 at 06:43 (6,446 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        
so nice

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patrick....glad to see its alive...really like it sad that mine didnt make it.. oh well.. this one is a keeper! besides i think she needs a poppy frigidaire friend sitting next to her.. dont you?

Post# 150435 , Reply# 61   8/25/2006 at 08:09 (6,446 days old) by dick_s. ()        

Good morning Patrick and Congratulations! It's a gorgeous machine. Now I also have something to look at of yours when I'm in Portland this fall.

Dick S.


Post# 150463 , Reply# 62   8/25/2006 at 10:58 (6,446 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Dick_S.

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Yes, you'll have many machines to look at. It should be fun. I'll get in touch with you soon.

Patrick


Post# 150466 , Reply# 63   8/25/2006 at 11:11 (6,446 days old) by jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA)        
No lights of any kind.

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The washer should have a germicidal "ozone" lamp behind the lid button, but it may have been removed. The wiring diagram shows one, and that thing that looks like a transformer near the the timer is a ballast for the germicidal lamp.

The agitator cap was painted silver to match the agitator at the factory.


Post# 150477 , Reply# 64   8/25/2006 at 12:11 (6,446 days old) by washerboy (Little Rock Arkansas)        
mom had one

my mother had a machine just like the pic. I remember when it was finished the lid would pop up..I want to say there was also a buzzer that sounded as well....maybe not...anyway I was also getting in trouble because the washer was in the kitchen...I was always pushing the button making the lid pop up....guess that's why it broke./mark

Post# 150488 , Reply# 65   8/25/2006 at 12:40 (6,446 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Jeff

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Thanks for the info. I'll have to pop the top and look for telltale signs of the missing lamp. There definitely is not one there now, not even wires or a socket. I had not really analyzed the wiring diagram since everything seems to work so didn't even notice that. I was just assuming this was a BOL model and that's why so many things were different from the ad that Robert posted. I'm still trying to find those 7 rinses!

Patrick


Post# 150511 , Reply# 66   8/25/2006 at 14:45 (6,446 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Seven rinses: 4 sprays in the first spin, 1 deep rinse, 2 sprays in the final spin.

Post# 150535 , Reply# 67   8/25/2006 at 18:34 (6,445 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Patrick did you see the link directly above that ad I posted, its a link to the parts list to your exact washer? That ad is an ad for your exact machine as well, Glen is correct, 1 deep rinse + 6 spray rinses makes for the silly "seven rinses" claim.

Post# 150540 , Reply# 68   8/25/2006 at 19:36 (6,445 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Robert

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I'm sorry. I was so focused on reading the ad itself, I didn't see the link. I have just looked at all of it and when I get home I will see what the previous owner has done to all of these options. I never saw a light holder but now I know the buzzer is still there as well as the "choke coil assembly" (which seems like an odd description). I also think the wiring has been "messed" with because the loom or harness in the diagram doesn't look anything like what's actually in the machine. Thanks again for posting the ad and the parts list. You are an invaluable source of information.

Patrick


Post# 150635 , Reply# 69   8/26/2006 at 10:08 (6,445 days old) by customline (pennsylvania)        
Question about the timer.....

Does this machine have a Mallory timer with an Ingram timer motor? Great washer. Hope you find a matching dryer and make it a pair. Congrats.


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