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Thread Number: 76879
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Machines that are prone to Over-Sudsing--and Why? |
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Post# 1007363 9/15/2018 at 23:41 (2,046 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy  (Oak Park, MI) |
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Yes, which brands are the vintage washers, top loaders & front loaders, that can get into suds-lock?
And what about those brands, invincible to it? How exactly is a washer engineered or constructed in a way that can handle or combat over-sudsing, or needing low-sudsing detergent because it is highly sensible to detergent that isn't? -- Dave | ||
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| Post# 1007371 , Reply# 1 9/16/2018 at 02:07 (2,046 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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the ones that make more suds Are generally the machines with vigorous washing action,Frigidaire, Norge, GE,Kelvinator, , and the front loaders which really move the water, Maytags wont suds lock, because their action is so gentle it doesent slosh the water much.Whirlpools and Kenmores are sort of in the middle | ||
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Post# 1007379 , Reply# 2 9/16/2018 at 05:52 (2,046 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Don't think any automatic or even semi-automatic washer
Is truly immune to effects of suds lock. If the thing spins (or one uses a separate extractor) then excess froth will be a problem, especially when machine spins. Wringer washers OTOH would largely been immune.
As for the washing creating froth, using a standard high sudsing detergent washers such as Frigidaire's pulsators and any others with a strong/vigorous wash action likely would have issues. The stronger movement is from agitation adds that much more "air" to the water/detergent or soap mix. Look at the difference in sudsing for this "Jet Action" washer on "hand wash" versus "Normal". Then you have something like this: OTOH there is Maytag..... CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK | ||
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Post# 1007381 , Reply# 3 9/16/2018 at 06:53 (2,045 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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suds lock
IMHO, it's easiest to sudslock a belt drive WP/Kenmore than most others, but it can certainly happen to Maytags and GE's. It seems to result from too much soap and/or towels and thick material that slowly release their wash water during spinning. Sheets and dress shirts, thin materials, seem to spin out all their wash water really quickly and don't suds lock.
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Post# 1007418 , Reply# 5 9/16/2018 at 11:05 (2,045 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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The DaveAMKrayoGuy Belt-Drive:
Ah-ha! But could it also be the detergent that I use?
Here is the washing, and maybe I'll show you a pic of the rinse, also with a lot of "zudz"...! -- Dave
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Post# 1007423 , Reply# 6 9/16/2018 at 11:38 (2,045 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Very vigorous agitation plus filtration
Our Filter-Flo's oversudsed frequently but I don't remember any of them having a suds-lock. I never heard the term until I visited this site. I remember early in 1962, the first year we had a Filter-flo, a GE repairman came to the house and told my Mother to switch from FAB to DASH because a suds cake had floated a sock over the rim of the washbasket and into the outer tub where it got stuck in the drain hole. From that point forward we used DASH exclusively.
My Grandmother bought a similar Filter-Flo the very next year; she solved the problem by running the two-speed machine always on GENTLE/SLOW. | ||
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Post# 1007435 , Reply# 7 9/16/2018 at 13:22 (2,045 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Yes, the GE's would just slow down and save all the sudz for the rinse cycle. A lot of machines used to do that. | ||
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Post# 1007448 , Reply# 8 9/16/2018 at 15:02 (2,045 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1007531 , Reply# 9 9/17/2018 at 06:55 (2,044 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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The early Kenmores with a 1/3-hp motor seemed especially prone to suds-lock. Our 1960 Model 80 and the 1959 Lady Kenmore I had locked up frequently.
The first spin on those machines was 4 minutes long. Spray rinses (four of them, if I recall correctly) began during the last two minutes. Quite often the excess suds would just about be eliminated right about the time the spray rinses began. Once those started, the poor things would almost immediately return to a crawl and suds would flow in though the holes in the tub when filling for the rinse began. That, and a big belch of foamy suds would be the first thing out of the otherwise groovy waterfall lint filter. | ||
| Post# 1007776 , Reply# 10 9/19/2018 at 06:16 (2,043 days old) by lesto (Atlanta) | ||
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Our old 59 GE filter flo was very prone to over sudsing when using Tide. That otherwise silly suds kill pause during the first spin came in handy. | ||
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Post# 1007801 , Reply# 11 9/19/2018 at 09:13 (2,042 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Well, like I said, here are some more pics, of the machine rinsing, draining, using cold wash water, as opposed to the hot or warm wash, which makes/made the suds more active, and even with a different detergent (All, which is supposedly low-sudsing, if not less-sudsing), all this until, as a '90's Kenmore, my washer gets things out of the realm of VINTAGE ('70's-to-'80's) machines:
-- Dave | ||
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Post# 1007888 , Reply# 12 9/19/2018 at 21:59 (2,042 days old) by Washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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Tide | ||
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Post# 1007934 , Reply# 13 9/20/2018 at 06:49 (2,041 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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| Post# 1007958 , Reply# 14 9/20/2018 at 13:41 (2,041 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Whirlpool DD Machines | ||
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Post# 1007959 , Reply# 15 9/20/2018 at 13:56 (2,041 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1008052 , Reply# 16 9/21/2018 at 03:29 (2,041 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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“Vintage”—long-overdue correction: | ||
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Post# 1153539 , Reply# 17 7/6/2022 at 18:48 (656 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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GE filter-flo My GE filter-flo never had that problem. There would be a mountain of suds especially on small water level with the machine set to cold, but by the time spray rinse is over, the suds are gone. And of course, we've typically used normal/fast. | ||
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