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Post# 1008768   9/27/2018 at 16:45 (2,030 days old) by shanenc14 (Tennessee, USA)        

I have a Whirlpool Direct Drive (GSW9800PW2) with the dual action agitator. I'm thinking of trying an agitator with vanes, if I can find one that will fit, instead of the dual action.

Can someone give me some part #'s or point me in the right direction on what options are available other than the OEM dual action corkscrew?





Post# 1008771 , Reply# 1   9/27/2018 at 17:46 (2,030 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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just remember, you will have to load less, and turnover may suffer

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Post# 1008772 , Reply# 2   9/27/2018 at 17:47 (2,030 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Post# 1008773 , Reply# 3   9/27/2018 at 17:54 (2,030 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Post# 1008774 , Reply# 4   9/27/2018 at 18:09 (2,030 days old) by shanenc14 (Tennessee, USA)        

Wow! That 3rd agitator looks like it would demolish some stuff on High agitation speed! I do remember the 2nd one on a machine I had in the 90s.

Post# 1008783 , Reply# 5   9/27/2018 at 19:09 (2,030 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        

The dual action agitator is one of the best out there. All those one piece ones came with the bottom of the barrel washers.

Post# 1008787 , Reply# 6   9/27/2018 at 20:21 (2,030 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Duel Action Agitators

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Yes Agreed Martin and Eugene, The DAA was the best thing that ever happened to traditional TL washers [ If Wringer Washers Were Built Today They Would Even Have DAAs ]

 

While the older one piece agitators were often neat to look at and fun to watch work with light loads the DAAs were just much better performing and easier on the clothing [ Even on the MTDC washers the best thing that ever happened to them was the Load-Sensor Agitator with the shorter stroke orbital transmission that didn't DRAG your clothing from hell and back while trying to turn it over ]

 

In any event Shane have fun trying different agitators in your washer, there are at least 15 different agitators that will fit your machine.

 

John L.


Post# 1008900 , Reply# 7   9/28/2018 at 16:04 (2,029 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)        

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If you want even better turnover with a DAA, find a Kitchen Aid agitator with the bigger base and fins.

Post# 1008904 , Reply# 8   9/28/2018 at 16:29 (2,029 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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oh I have to agree with Vern, the larger fins coupled with a slower speed agitation will give excellent fabric care....

and handle larger loads with ease.....


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Post# 1011818 , Reply# 9   10/22/2018 at 17:52 (2,005 days old) by shanenc14 (Tennessee, USA)        
KitchenAid Agitator

Would this entire assembly fit in my machine?

https://ebay.us/aOJqrL...


Post# 1011820 , Reply# 10   10/22/2018 at 17:54 (2,005 days old) by shanenc14 (Tennessee, USA)        
KitchenAid Agitator - Alt Link

Link above may not work... This is the item I was speaking of...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/KITCHENAID-WASH...


Post# 1011826 , Reply# 11   10/22/2018 at 18:25 (2,005 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Yes, that one will fit any direct drive machine except the 24" cabinet version...


better if your machine has a speed selector switch, as some feel a slower speed agitation is preferred.....


note: I have used mine at both speeds with no issues.....your mileage may vary


Post# 1011834 , Reply# 12   10/22/2018 at 19:31 (2,005 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Do note, there were a lot of 27" wide DD washers that only had the smaller 2.7 CF tub like the 24" wide washers, as Martin noted the KA large finned agitator will not fit the 2.7 or 2.5 CF tubs.

 

John L.


Post# 1038483 , Reply# 13   7/17/2019 at 02:53 (1,737 days old) by shanenc14 (Tennessee, USA)        
Old thread revived

Could someone tell me if this one will work?

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Post# 1038484 , Reply# 14   7/17/2019 at 02:56 (1,737 days old) by shanenc14 (Tennessee, USA)        

Also, would my existing agitator bolt work to attach any of these agitators, or would I need to order a different one? i.e. different length or something?


Post# 1038547 , Reply# 15   7/17/2019 at 17:28 (1,737 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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Yes it will fit and work. It was made for the smaller capacity direct drive machines. The action on small loads and possibly medium will be good, but on a full load it won’t be very effective at all. Same bolt will work. This looks like one of the agitators that the top half pops off and there is a manual lint filter to clean inside.

Post# 1038555 , Reply# 16   7/17/2019 at 19:50 (1,737 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
5 Vein WP DD Agitator

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This agitator was actually just used in the largest [ 3 CF+ ] tub DD washers, it was used in the Super Capacity model till the Dual Action Agitators replaced it in nearly all SC models.

 

John L.


Post# 1038557 , Reply# 17   7/17/2019 at 20:02 (1,737 days old) by shanenc14 (Tennessee, USA)        

In that case it should work, as my machine is 3.2 cu. ft.

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Post# 1038558 , Reply# 18   7/17/2019 at 20:11 (1,737 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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My grandparents had an agitator just like the one pictured in an early 1990’s Roper extra large capacity (standard not super capacity). You could pull the whole top part of the agitator out to clean the lint filter that was made on to the bottom of the top part while the base stayed bolted in the machine. The holes in the side were what ran the water through the filter due to agitation. I think I only saw one other one than theirs that was built this way. There was also a two piece like this one but did not have a filter and the bolt went through the top part not allowing it to be removed. Their machine looked almost exactly like this Estate model.

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Post# 1038630 , Reply# 19   7/18/2019 at 12:47 (1,736 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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of all the straight vanes versions they offered......this was the best at cleaning and turnover for some odd reason....

could be in part to the wavy Surgilator vanes.....plus the five blades...

I remember these in the first direct drive 24" Design2000 machines......with the barrel lint filter


Post# 1038671 , Reply# 20   7/18/2019 at 19:38 (1,736 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
5 Vein WP DD Agitator

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Hi Martin, Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I never saw a 24" DD washer with a 5 vein agitator, WP introduced this agitator when they brought out the larger 3+ CF wash basket, I agree that it was a very effective agitator.

 

John L.


Post# 1038675 , Reply# 21   7/18/2019 at 21:08 (1,736 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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only reason I knew of these was my aunt bought one of the first Design2000 machines, around the end of 1983

I got to install this for her....was just a unique design that came out....

this unit also had the spin drain....which I thought was odd from a Whirlpool.....of course later the neutral drain was returned to the lineup...

plus that barrel mounted lint filter that lifted off to clean....

but did notice her clutch wore out rather quickly....

the belt drive versions were still around, as I got a Whirlpool Supreme Series set not long after in 1984....

when the Dual Actions were available for these, it was still a five vane base, but the fins were tapered down a bit...


Post# 1038754 , Reply# 22   7/19/2019 at 18:35 (1,735 days old) by Tomdawg (Des moines)        
Kitchen aid agitator

I upgraded one of my whirlpool direct drive to a kitchen aid agitator, those extra large fins do some damage! You really don’t need the dual action agitator with it!
If you are using high speed, make sure it’s a shorter cycle the motor smelled hot after a 16 min wash on high speed!


Post# 1038795 , Reply# 23   7/20/2019 at 05:39 (1,734 days old) by shanenc14 (Tennessee, USA)        
Dilemma of replacing an agitator (LOL)

@Tomdawg: I have seen those wide fin KitchenAid DAAs. I wonder if you smelled that because the wider and larger fins create more resistance in the water, therefore putting more strain on the motor/gearcase?

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My current dilemma is this: The teeth in the upper agitator in my machine are worn down, and slipping at times. At first I thought it may be that the dogs needed replacement, so I ordered the entire cam/dogs repair kit -- this didn't solve my problem. When watching the agitation in high speed there are some strokes where the dogs don't fully engage so the auger only moves a fraction of a stroke and there's a prominent popping sound when the dogs don't fully grab. Not only this, the fins on the lower part of my agitator have a couple nicks in them that are a bit deep for my taste, possibly enough to damage fabric.

Because of this, it's time to replace the agitator... The question is -- what do I replace it with? A new OEM assembly? A good used DAA? Straight vane, a surgilator?? The list goes on.

Would either of these fit?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/382927744292...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/273818479191...



Post# 1038821 , Reply# 24   7/20/2019 at 08:01 (1,734 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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Yes they will both fit. First one is from a newer model whirlpool or Maytag. Second one is from a newer model kenmore. I say newer model but these agitators have been in production for around 13 years now.

Post# 1038840 , Reply# 25   7/20/2019 at 13:41 (1,734 days old) by Tomdawg (Des moines)        
Shanenc14

Yes, it was a large load and full cycle. Small loads, it had no problems.
Honestly, I noticed more snagging on the load. So from then on, I put it on the middle speed, if your whirlpool has a speed selector, I would still purchase this one. Lower wash speeds mean longer lasting washer- my uncle worked for sears and told me the high speed kills them faster.


Post# 1038848 , Reply# 26   7/20/2019 at 14:47 (1,734 days old) by shanenc14 (Tennessee, USA)        

Yes, I have the 3 speed motor with 6 speed combo switch. I wonder if it would be better to find a KitchenAid agitator, and replace the high speed with low, (what would be "Regular" on some of the Kenmores). Even using the same cycle times that I typlically use, I might even get better cleaning results, who knows.

Would anyone happen to have the part number for the full Kitchen Aid agitator assembly?


Post# 1038859 , Reply# 27   7/20/2019 at 17:09 (1,734 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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curious....does anyone shop ebay anymore?


I typed in KitchenAid, Whirlpool, Kenmore washer agitator.....and this was in the selections...


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Post# 1038879 , Reply# 28   7/20/2019 at 20:25 (1,734 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Best agitator For A 3 Speed DD Washer

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If you have one of the versatile KM DD washers with the fabric speed selector I would differently keep the original agitator, using the original agitator on high speed not only cleans better and handles and turns over a large load better than the KA agitator on medium so you have better options because you have three usable speeds for agitation.

 

The main reason KA washers used the larger agitator and medium speed was noise and it was a little gentler than high speed on your KM, but it does not clean as well. Most of our customers with this KM washer use the medium speed agitation and fast spin speed.

 

John L.


Post# 1038897 , Reply# 29   7/21/2019 at 02:05 (1,733 days old) by shanenc14 (Tennessee, USA)        

Thanks to everyone for all of your input. I think I'll most likey find a good used WP/Kenmore dual action agitators to replace the worn one currently in my machine. If anyone has any additional input or suggestions, feel free to add.

Right now I'm thinking of getting this one
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Whirlpool-Kenmo...



Post# 1038902 , Reply# 30   7/21/2019 at 07:27 (1,733 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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Go for it!

Post# 1039194 , Reply# 31   7/23/2019 at 17:32 (1,731 days old) by ladd (Maryland)        

I have a used dual-action agitator (and the top mounting bolt) from my recently departed Kitchenaid KAWE760 purchased new in 1991. You are welcome to it if you can use it.

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