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Post# 1008892   9/28/2018 at 14:34 (2,035 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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Well, I don't know if I showed the mounting situation before, but I initially had this Thermador WK disposal mounted with a newer Anaheim "EZ mount", the plastic one, as it was the only mount that fit which I also had 'around da house'. It ran perfectly smooth and normal...

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But then the mounting flange I intended to use arrived, a 3 bolt mount flange for a modern Waste King, the rubber mount on the Thermador fit on it fine, and clamped down. But I've noticed I get some additional vibration and noise I didn't before.

Undue Thermadorian noise and vibration...

I have no idea what this is about! Sometimes it'll run like this:

Undue Thermadorian noise and vibration...

Pardon the extra background noise... I've made sure its mounted on there straight, not half on the flange, the flange is centered and level in the sink bottom... Is this just how it is?





Post# 1009014 , Reply# 1   9/29/2018 at 18:12 (2,034 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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Well, I decided the mounting flange wasn't tight enough to the sink, so I cranked the screws down, replaced the metal outlet elbow with a plastic one, (just cutting that thing to length made me regret the metal one...) and then threw about 3 lamb shank bones down the thing, seems to be running smooth as a baby's behind now... 


Post# 1009016 , Reply# 2   9/29/2018 at 18:22 (2,034 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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It may have just had to re-situate itself, and the shank bones (a bold move for sure) may have helped.  It should provide you with years of service now!


Post# 1009019 , Reply# 3   9/29/2018 at 18:50 (2,034 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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I’m hoping, plus it was rather caked with 39 years of dried muck when I got it, so I wanted to give it the most thorough scouring I could! I’m really looking forward to this one as my long term disposer, it works well and is now quiet as it should be! I’ll be devastated if it craps out on my anytime soon!

I probably wouldn’t drop those lamb shank bones down many other disposals, they were pretty hard bone and it even took this beast 13 minutes to break down all 3 bones! I know the internals of these old Waste Kings are so solidly built that it could handle such abuse. Beef ribs in an Anaheim built unit always gives me a little uneasiness...


Post# 1009025 , Reply# 4   9/29/2018 at 20:05 (2,034 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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I wonder how long it would have taken our 1990 (+/-) Maytag to dispose with those bones.  That machine was promoted as being able to grind nails.


Post# 1009027 , Reply# 5   9/29/2018 at 20:09 (2,034 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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I’d imagine about the same amount of time they’re both truly beasts! As I’ve said, I’d like to find a batch feed Maytag for the other side of the sink, or a batch feed Kitchenaid!

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Post# 1009058 , Reply# 6   9/30/2018 at 00:29 (2,034 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

I don't think I would throw nails into ANY disposer!They could be thrown back at you!Maytags aretough,but don't think I would expect it to shred nails.Bones like shank bones should go to the trash!A garden waste shredder might handle those-but could be very dangerous-bone shards or the bones could be thrown right back at you!The bones may also cause the shredder hammers to come loose and be thrown out at you!Garden shredders are like disposers for your garden.They can have 1.5Hp electric motrors to 10 hp gas ones or run from a tractor PTO.

Post# 1009065 , Reply# 7   9/30/2018 at 01:40 (2,034 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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Nails are definitely not on the menu! And like I said about the bones, not every disposal can handle this, certainly not most made today!

Post# 1009092 , Reply# 8   9/30/2018 at 06:20 (2,034 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Commercial disposers can handle those large bones-household models only OCCASIONALLY!!!And as we saw in the video it just takes too long to grind the bones-and the 15 min of water use.Again--just throw them into the trash.May not be as much fun but more practical.Would be interesting to put a LARGE beef bone or knuckle under the blade of a RL trash truck-bet the blade would cut right thru it!!!Imagine if that was your arm or leg!!!And I have seen some trashmen kick items into the blade with their feet while it was coming down!!A half in thick packer blade being lowered by two 3 ft stroke 2 in rod hydraulic cylinders is nothing to mess with!!!

Post# 1009130 , Reply# 9   9/30/2018 at 09:24 (2,034 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Hi Reggie, glad you got one of your dream disposers.

 

While it will not hurt a good disposer to grind hard bones it is basically a waste of time and water, I do do it at times in my National-Hobart-Kitchenaid but I would put them all in at the same time and let the larger pieces remain till the next time the disposer was used.

 

 

Disposers will grind stuff faster if they have a mixture of different things in them at the same time, things like onion skins grind much better if they are mixed with lots of potato peals, corn cobs, chunks of other vegetables, coffee filters with grinds, poultry bones etc etc.

 

Keep in mind that household disposers do not have a good cooling system so they are considered intermittent-duty appliances and most will shut off on their thermal-overload in 10-20 minutes of running time.

 

Keep the fun videos coming.

 

John L.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Post# 1009239 , Reply# 10   10/1/2018 at 00:34 (2,033 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

That's right a "garbage salad"-mixture of different wastes shreds the best.Same with industrial shredders.

Post# 1009362 , Reply# 11   10/2/2018 at 14:16 (2,031 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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I agree on the mixture of food waste, some things to dispose of better when not alone. Things like chicken bones also like to go faster if in multiples. y favorite thing to do is just let all the scraps collect in the sink, all the peelings and trimmings and so on. Usually this only happens on special occasions, we don't cook things that are that prep-intensive usually. Although personally I tend to go for stuff that involves as much interaction with various kitchen appliances and gadgets as possible...

Post# 1009784 , Reply# 12   10/5/2018 at 17:21 (2,028 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )        

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I have tried large raw steak bones many many times. My 73 Waste king SS8000 has only a 1/2 H.p. motor in it. The Flywheel has a 5 pound weight bolted to the bottom of it and so that might be why it never jammed on me. It ground it up pretty fast also.
That disposer cost 293 bucks in 73 price tag was still on the box. No wonder its the only one I have ever saw.
I also tried that with a G.E. induction disposer with the Carboloy cutters.(NO REX not the one I sold you.)It had no problem at all grinding them..
I tried to destroy a G.E. 1 hp Permanent mag motor disposer.
I hate those disposers so bad for one. I put so many bones it and flipped the switch and it ground it up. Then ripped itself from the sink and was laying still running on the side.I was impressed but after 25 minutes of torture it died.
I fried the motor bad...

My 75 Maytag has no problems with huge bones at all. It does have a new shredder in it which is by Far the most massive cast ring I have seen for a home disposer.
It reminds me of my Commercial Waste King shredder.
I torture all my disposers if it breaks no big deal and I like to see how far they go. I have never Jammed a Maytag while its running ..


Post# 1009786 , Reply# 13   10/5/2018 at 17:39 (2,028 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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I did discover a small bit of damage to the disposal! The little baffle on the dishwasher inlet busted off! I don't foresee this being an issue, BUT it made me feel bad, naturally... I don't expect I'd ever put anything down this disposal that would break it, much like the Maytags, they're just so well built, almost built better than they need to be! This thing is still in very good condition 30 years after it was made! And I know it was used well before I got it!

Post# 1009821 , Reply# 14   10/6/2018 at 01:52 (2,028 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Volsboy-the GE and Hotpoint disposers are still with meand the Piranha "blender motor" disposers are still with me and the Maytag-these are my favorites.Use them in turn.PThese put ANY new dispoer to shame!!!You would probably like torturing RL trash trucks-some on YouTube do so by crushing cars in them!!!The New Way Magnum did the BEST car crush-this can be seen on YouTube.EZ-Pacs do well here as well-love their CRUNCH-CRUSH!MASH! PACK! action!Leeches are another good one-their packer runs slow but crushes ANYTHING thrown in them!!!Yes does the car crush well!and pianos,too!The thing that can happen to RL trash truck compactors is something can be pushed thru the hopper floor.some now make floors of half in thick Hard-Ox! steel!

Post# 1009855 , Reply# 15   10/6/2018 at 11:00 (2,028 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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Currently my 'disposal collection' consists of this Thermador, and a series wound GE, the cheap 1/3HP model. I found the GE to be lots of fun, my only complaints, I wish the grind chamber was bigger, and that it wasn't so splashy without the splash guard, as I like using these things without the guard, but prefer not to be covered in chunder by doing so... I like to watch it dispose! Others found it obnoxiously loud. Ultimately its no match for the Thermador, but they're both fun!

Post# 1009991 , Reply# 16   10/7/2018 at 01:05 (2,027 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

I like to watch it blend,dispose,crush,too!Just don't get too close!


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