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Thread Number: 77298
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Maytag A712 Is Making Skeeching Grind Noise At End Of Spins |
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| Post# 1012583 10/30/2018 at 01:59 (1,998 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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The tub also wobbles and starts off unusually unbalanced at the beginning of the spinning cycles | ||
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Post# 1012610 , Reply# 1 10/30/2018 at 07:42 (1,998 days old) by combo52  (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Two different issues The screech as the tub stops is either a dry brake assembly [ try adding two tablespoons of transmission oil ] or if the lining is too badly worn you may have to replace the brake assembly [ if the noise brothers you ] the washer will keep working just fine and in fact the 2nd time you hear the screech you know its time to remove the clothing and put them in the dryer, LOL
The tub assembly moving around a lot at the beginning of spin may be normal, it may be that you are using too high a water level for the amount of clothing being washed or you could have a damper problem.
Keep in mind that MT DC washers did not have great suspension systems, they were about the only washer left that still had an unbalance shut-off and they needed it.
John L. | ||
| Post# 1012617 , Reply# 2 10/30/2018 at 09:06 (1,997 days old) by good-shepherd (New Jersey) | ||
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The A712 series machines are going on 30+ years old. Time to open it up for some service. Adding oil to the brake and lubing the damper pads is not that difficult and there is good how-to thread on it somewhere. | ||
| Post# 1012659 , Reply# 3 10/30/2018 at 18:37 (1,997 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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Lghh...thanks guys, I think a new damper pad set is needed because there's black (powder) dust all over the baseframe...I just can't seem to level out the suspension springs | ||
| Post# 1012884 , Reply# 5 11/1/2018 at 08:49 (1,996 days old) by good-shepherd (New Jersey) | ||
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can not get the suspension springs to level off What do you mean by "level off"? | ||
| Post# 1012927 , Reply# 7 11/1/2018 at 20:31 (1,995 days old) by good-shepherd (New Jersey) | ||
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why do you think it's scheeching Sure its the brake and not the the tub bearing? The black dust wasn't a good sign, where did it come from, brake or damper pads? Hard to center tub is a sign of a brake issue. | ||
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Post# 1012991 , Reply# 9 11/2/2018 at 07:05 (1,995 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Two different issues, Again The black dust is worn aluminum from the damper dome and probably steel from the base plate, you will need another damper dome and new pads at a minimum to fix the damper. [ this is always when we advise our customers time for a new washer, but if you don't count your time it can be fixed with a lot of work ]
The constant screeching during spin could be one of several things but it is not likley the brake assembly, if it did not do it before the new radial bearing something is probably assembled incorrectly.
Water will always remain in the pump.
John L. | ||
| Post# 1012999 , Reply# 10 11/2/2018 at 09:32 (1,994 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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Thanks, so I take it that the wobbling during the spins...FAST or SLOW is caused by the damper system gone bad...replacing the damper dome is a really big job...hmm, I don't know | ||
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Post# 1013000 , Reply# 11 11/2/2018 at 09:39 (1,994 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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| Post# 1013010 , Reply# 12 11/2/2018 at 11:03 (1,994 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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Thanks John, I'll find it...is there an easiest way of handling this job | ||
| Post# 1013012 , Reply# 13 11/2/2018 at 11:11 (1,994 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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Is it worth the work to replace the damper dome...I am interested in a new project...the combination of a Maytag LAT9806 and a A712...what do you think??? | ||
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Post# 1013099 , Reply# 16 11/3/2018 at 08:27 (1,994 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Hi Harry, The tub capacity in the LAT9806 is the same 19 gallons as the A712, the motor and motor carriage design on the LAT9806 is also much better, it engages better for agitation while also allowing a better clutching action when pumping out water and getting up to spin speed.
I do very much like the versatility of the Electronic controls on the LAT9806 [ this was easily the best Maytag TL washer Maytag ever built ] machines about the only upgrade this machine needs is a 50 cycle motor pulley, beyond that the only real upgrade would be an electronic Lady Kenmore DD washer for the ultimate full fill top load washer experience.
John L. | ||
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Post# 1013182 , Reply# 18 11/3/2018 at 22:00 (1,993 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Hi Harry, All two belt MT washers are helical drive, helical drive does not have anything to do with which style transmission is in the washer.
I never heard the term " give-in-ease " If its MTs term it was just a silly advertising slogan that did not last long or mean a thing, LOL.
Maytag helical drive washers had a lot of water seal leak problems starting in 1956 when they were introduced. They improved the design in several ways and by the early 60s they were pretty good through the 60s-the 70s, but by the early 80s they started to have a lot of problems again. One thing you can say for sure is that there are a lot more LAT models running along that have never had a seal leak than earlier models today.
PS I am glad to hear you used to live in this area, however Silver Spring Maryland is not in Prince Georges county, but rather Montgomery County.
John L. | ||
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