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Thread Number: 77633
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
1969 Malleys Whirlpool Washer |
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| Post# 1016381 12/1/2018 at 00:56 (1,966 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
Hello Guys,
I purchased the Malleys Whirlpool push-button automatic washer that had photos posted on here a few weeks ago - a nice addition to our eclectic collection of vintage appliances. There is a handwritten date on the back indicating it was purchased in 1969. I have attached some photos taken since it arrived. Unfortunately the right-hand side control panel chrome end cap is missing. Does anyone know if this part is shared with a US Whirlpool washer ? Photo of the left-hand side included. Tim | ||
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Post# 1016406 , Reply# 1 12/1/2018 at 03:47 (1,965 days old) by imperial70  (MA USA) |
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switches on back of dashboard Appears to be some switches on the back of the dashboard. What do they do? | ||
| Post# 1016408 , Reply# 2 12/1/2018 at 04:30 (1,965 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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| Post# 1016419 , Reply# 3 12/1/2018 at 07:44 (1,965 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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| Post# 1016424 , Reply# 4 12/1/2018 at 08:06 (1,965 days old) by CorvairGeek (Gem State) | ||
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I spy a '59 Next to the '69. Would love to know more. RHD? | ||
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Post# 1016425 , Reply# 5 12/1/2018 at 08:07 (1,965 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Very cool WP 24" washer I love these smaller models, in the US they had a few highly featured 24" models but never any this fancy with a 3 speed motor and all programed cycles. I would love to find one of these here in the US [ very unlikely ]
Unfortunately the missing end cap trim does not look like any WP ever used here, hopefully one will turn up there.
John L. | ||
| Post# 1016490 , Reply# 6 12/2/2018 at 03:38 (1,964 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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Eurekastar - Thank you ! It was a top of the line Whirlpool washer here in Australia.
CorvairGeek - I imported the 59 Impala from Boise ID about 10 years ago. Still LHD as it doesn't need to be converted here. John L. - Thanks for your advice. Looks as though I will need to find another end cap or make one. *** We started disassembly for restoration today. Disconnected and removed the control panel, cabinet top and drum cap. No serious rust so far which is a relief. Photos attached. Got a little stuck with how to get the agitator out. Could someone advise ? Thanks all ! Regards, Tim | ||
| Post# 1016510 , Reply# 7 12/2/2018 at 06:32 (1,964 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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By the way, | ||
| Post# 1016541 , Reply# 8 12/2/2018 at 14:33 (1,964 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
Eurekastar: | ||
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Post# 1016594 , Reply# 9 12/2/2018 at 20:56 (1,964 days old) by Washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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Left-Hand Lid... | ||
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Post# 1016595 , Reply# 10 12/2/2018 at 21:02 (1,964 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1016616 , Reply# 12 12/3/2018 at 02:58 (1,963 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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Eurekastar, Hippiedoll, Todd: will post some pics of the 59 Impala soon !
Todd, DADoES: sideways opening lids were common here at that time. I assume it was a design fad - maybe so that the controls were accessible with the lid in the raised position ? *** I disassembled , cleaned and tested the bleach and fabric softener dispenser today. One solenoid was sticking but I freed it up. Photo of the test rig attached. Also the centre pin of the snubber got broken when the washer was transported. I machined a new pin from steel, bored out the snubber and glued in the new pin. | ||
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Post# 1016619 , Reply# 13 12/3/2018 at 04:33 (1,963 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1016640 , Reply# 14 12/3/2018 at 07:25 (1,963 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Removing stuck agitator | ||
| Post# 1016795 , Reply# 15 12/4/2018 at 16:04 (1,962 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
Congrats | ||
| Post# 1016867 , Reply# 16 12/5/2018 at 04:07 (1,961 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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@chaskelljr2: Charles disappointingly the control panel does not light up. It's shaped as though there could be a diffuser with lamp behind, however, it's all solid aluminium. I don't believe many of the machines available in Australia had the gorgeous illuminated panels your US machines had (even TOLs like this one). I haven't seen a matching dryer yet but always looking ! I will definitely post a video once it's rebuilt and working.
@DADoES: I have the impression this machine has not had a huge amount of use which might explain why the snubber (and the machine generally) is in pretty good condition. @Combo52: John thanks for the tips on how to remove the stuck agitator. Will have another go at the weekend. @mielerod69: Rod yes I saw you posted those pics. Was funny to see it on this forum before I got around to posting ! Will make some videos once it's up and running. *** As requested by a few of you, attached are some pics of our 59 Chevy Impala. Enjoy ! Tim | ||
| Post# 1016869 , Reply# 17 12/5/2018 at 04:56 (1,961 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Post# 1016964 , Reply# 20 12/5/2018 at 17:18 (1,961 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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A beautiful '59 Impala. Several neighbors and friends of our family had them, both in sedans and wagons. From what I've heard, the Canadian Pontiac models for many years were actually Chevrolets underneath, with special sheet metal to look like US Pontiacs. However, the body parts are not interchangeable with US Pontiac models. | ||
| Post# 1017029 , Reply# 21 12/6/2018 at 03:51 (1,960 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California) | ||
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| Post# 1017142 , Reply# 22 12/7/2018 at 00:08 (1,960 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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@toploader55: It's a genuine Chevrolet Cool Pack air conditioner. It's one of the best car air conditioning systems I have ever experienced in terms of air flow and coldness.
@CorvairGeek: It does use the Frigidaire A5 compressor and hot gas bypass valve to effect temperature control and prevent evaporator freeze-up. @vacerator: We imported it from Idaho about 10 years ago. It doesn't need to be converted to RHD as it's so old. In 1959 Holden did import cars CKD from Canada which were RHD. I have seen pictures of an Australian Pontiac of the era with the Chevy dash you mention. @CircleW: Thank you! It sounds as though the Canadian cars of the era (and those exported) were an "economised" version of the amazing cars that were being designed and build in the USA. We are glad we got a true US-built car with all their features and style. @StrongEnough78: Thanks! I will get some pics of the engine. Be warned that it's a six ! | ||
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Post# 1017147 , Reply# 23 12/7/2018 at 01:20 (1,960 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia) |
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Nice Whirlpool | ||
| Post# 1017154 , Reply# 24 12/7/2018 at 04:54 (1,959 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California) | ||
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| Post# 1017200 , Reply# 25 12/7/2018 at 13:07 (1,959 days old) by CorvairGeek (Gem State) | ||
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Austrailian Refrigerant Importation Sadly, R12 cars must be evacuated and recovered for importation, IIRC. Since the OP says it works great, I will assume that the system is now running on HC / Propane. Works fantastic, but illegal in many states in the US. | ||
| Post# 1017425 , Reply# 26 12/9/2018 at 04:23 (1,957 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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@mayfan69: Thanks Leon. It's my first vintage washer so I'm quite smitten. And yes it is a 1500. I'm looking forward to having it all restored, running and putting it to work.
@StrongEnough78: Vern here are some pics of the engine bay and original Frigidaire A5 compressor and hot gas bypass valve. The car is somewhat of an enigma as the lady who bought it new ordered a TOL Impala with a hardtop and sporty red on white two-tone color scheme, yet ordered the base Blue Flame Six engine with stick shift transmission (with overdrive I should add). @CorvairGeek: Yes it's running hydrocarbon refrigerant and you're right that cars have to have the R12 removed before importation. It bemuses me the amount of scaremongering that accompanies the use of hydrocarbon refrigerants in cars and home appliances. I believe the positives vastly outweigh the negatives. I also love hydrocarbon refrigerants because I can buy and use them without any controls (at least for now) whereas for the synthetic refrigerants I would need a licence. *** Back on topic - still no luck getting the agitator out of the Whirlpool. I tried thumping, whacking, pulling, even boiling water. I have added more penetrating oil and will let it sit for another week. | ||
| Post# 1017429 , Reply# 27 12/9/2018 at 08:11 (1,957 days old) by CorvairGeek (Gem State) | ||
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Thanks for the pics Love seeing them! | ||
| Post# 1024164 , Reply# 28 2/10/2019 at 02:12 (1,894 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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Hello everyone,
I got back to stripping down the washer this weekend. It was a challenge as it clearly decided it wasn't going to come apart without a fight. I made many attempts to get the agitator off and finally succeeded by wrapping its top with a rag and soaking the rag with boiling water. Then I used Winbags to get some serious and constant pressure under its base. When it finally popped off it flew about 3ft into the air. Fortunately no damage to it or me. I screwed a bolt into the agitator shaft top and used my gear puller to remove the agitator drive block. Interestingly the thread in the top of the agitator shaft is 5/16" BSF. Some other bolts on the washer are Whitworth, and so it appears it was made with a mixture of American and British bolt types. The basket nut came loose without too much difficulty (the only thing that did). The basket itself required my partner to pull up on the rim while I tapped sharply on the drive block in order to get it loose. After removing hoses and sensors from the outer tub, I removed the four screws holding it to the base plate. Again it took a lot of pushing and shoving to get it to come loose. I then detached the motor, suds saver valve, pump and magic clean filter. The hose tails of the suds saver valve crumbled into powder as I removed the hoses. Clearly the pot metal it was made of did not like years of sitting in water and detergent. Fortunately I found a replacement valve assembly on Ebay. The gearbox and agitator shaft came out after some persuasion. The spin tube, clutch and pulley assembly required serious pounding. I managed to get the spin tube bushes out with my bearing puller although required substantial force. Finally, I removed the base plate and suspension rods and so the cabinet is now completely stripped and ready to be cleaned, rust treated and painted. I would like to thank whoever (Ultramatic perhaps ?) created the 57 Kenmore restoration pictorial on this site as it was extremely helpful. I have a few questions I hope you can all help with: 1. Can you buy anywhere the rubber balls that go on the suspension rod ends ? Also the tub top cap rubber seal for a 24" machine ? 2. When I removed the spin tube, a quantity of oil (approx 1oz) dribbled out. Should this oil have been there ? If so, what type should I replace it with and where is it best to put it in relation to the two bushes ? Thanks so much everyone. Regards, Tim | ||
| Post# 1024227 , Reply# 29 2/10/2019 at 15:44 (1,894 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
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Oooow...
Mit634:
Love the '59 Impala! My mom & dad each had '59 Chevrolets cars when they were dating (one I believe was an Impala & the other could of been a Belair?). One of my aunts had a '59 station wagon. I remember that one because I was really little when she had that. I just remember it was a light-medium metallic blue color. And she must of taken me & my cousins somewhere (store?). When we got to the house, she sat me on the passenger side, rear "wing". That's all I remember :o/ Thanks for sharing pictures of your beautiful '59 Chevrolet Impala. :o) | ||
| Post# 1024842 , Reply# 30 2/16/2019 at 20:19 (1,888 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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| Post# 1024970 , Reply# 31 2/17/2019 at 23:18 (1,887 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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Post# 1025011 , Reply# 32 2/18/2019 at 13:41 (1,886 days old) by Washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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| Post# 1035802 , Reply# 33 6/20/2019 at 13:56 (1,764 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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Hi All,
I have made good progress on the washer restoration. Unable to source a replacement agitator shaft I have repaired the original by machining out the old corroded section, filling with a shaft repair compound and then remachining to the original profile. Otherwise lots of cleaning, rust treatment, painting and happily some REASSEMBLY have also occurred. @Washerlover - thanks for your note Todd. Glad you like the car ! Regards, Tim
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| Post# 1035803 , Reply# 34 6/20/2019 at 13:57 (1,764 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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| Post# 1035815 , Reply# 45 6/20/2019 at 14:42 (1,764 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK) | ||
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| Post# 1035818 , Reply# 46 6/20/2019 at 15:38 (1,764 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
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WOWZERS!! | ||
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Post# 1035827 , Reply# 47 6/20/2019 at 17:25 (1,764 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa) |
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| Post# 1036032 , Reply# 48 6/22/2019 at 06:11 (1,762 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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@hippiedoll
@stricklybojack Thanks so much - it's a good feeling having it going back together. @LowEfficiency I used LOCTITE EA3478 which appears to be designed for repairing shafts and the loads they are subjected to. It's a two-part epoxy with metal filler. It was thick and difficult to apply uniformly over the long section of shaft I needed to fill, even with the lathe turning slowly. I erred towards adding too much knowing that I would be able to machine it back down to size. Needless to say the old corrosion needs to be removed completely before building back up with the repair compound. | ||
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Post# 1036111 , Reply# 49 6/22/2019 at 12:10 (1,762 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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That is exactly the Brastemp transmission In Brazil they still make it (for replacement only) They also make the super surgilator agitator, pump (4 way only because all Brastemps had the "Tragic-mix" filter. All Brastemps were 24 inches. | ||
| Post# 1036640 , Reply# 50 6/29/2019 at 05:26 (1,755 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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Post# 1036643 , Reply# 52 6/29/2019 at 07:42 (1,755 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Parts For WP Belt-Drive Washers Unfortunately WP-US decided to discontinue almost all parts for these machines in the US around a decade ago, but because this design was by far the most popular washer design in the US [ during their almost 40 years of production ] there are lots of dealers, repair folks that still have parts and are selling them on Ebay etc.
All of the mechanical parts of the 24 " and 29" are the same right down to the agitators.
Major differences are the cabinet, cabinet top, tubs and baseplate. Many electrical parts may be different because of different voltages etc.
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| Post# 1036905 , Reply# 53 7/2/2019 at 06:55 (1,752 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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Hi Thomas,
Thanks for the links. I will definitely check them out. I would never have dreamed of looking in Brazil for parts. Hi John, I have been able to find most mechanical parts this project has required (seals, bearings, spin tube, suds valve, etc.). The only part that remained elusive was the agitator shaft and hence I went down the path of repairing the original. It's a testament to Whirlpool's rugged and reliable design that it remained almost unchanged for multiple decades and we have the benefit of plentiful spare parts (for now !). I would like to try and find a new upper tub seal for a 24" machine as mine is still intact but rather delicate. All, This weekend we installed the outer tub and sealed it against water leaks (hopefully). We reinstalled all the internal hoses. We also installed the inlet solenoid valve. The machine did not come with a valve and I was not able to find one that was a drop-in replacement for the mounting configuration of the cabinet. I ended up finding a valve that was a close fit, elongating the cut-out in the cabinet for the hose connections, and making an adapter plate to mount the valve bracket to the cabinet. Thanks everyone for your interest. Tim
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| Post# 1036907 , Reply# 54 7/2/2019 at 06:55 (1,752 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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Post# 1036914 , Reply# 58 7/2/2019 at 07:09 (1,752 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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| Post# 1039527 , Reply# 59 7/26/2019 at 18:04 (1,728 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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Hello Everyone,
Making great progress on the washer restoration. After allowing the tub sealer to set we filled it with water to test for leaks. Fortunately no leaks were apparent from the tub, however, two of the hose connections underneath were leaking. I replaced the original spring-type hose clamps with new worm drive hose clamps and that fixed the leaks. We reinstalled the spin basket and powered the machine to test it for free and correct operation. It was initially not running very true and I found there was still some rust inside the basket center tube causing it not to tighten down square. Removing this rust fixed the problem. Then we reinstalled the surgilator, tub ring, fill hose, snubber, cabinet top and lid, reconnected the lower wiring harness to the control panel and reinstalled the control panel. Photos of the continued reassembly below. We have done some basic tests of the fill level switches, agitate and spin operation which all seem fine. Videos of these below.
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Post# 1039538 , Reply# 68 7/26/2019 at 18:27 (1,728 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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I have one word to say: FASCINATING! | ||
| Post# 1039647 , Reply# 69 7/28/2019 at 02:45 (1,726 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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Post# 1039649 , Reply# 70 7/28/2019 at 05:31 (1,726 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1039732 , Reply# 71 7/28/2019 at 18:07 (1,726 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
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Pic of lid instructions | ||
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Post# 1039735 , Reply# 72 7/28/2019 at 18:25 (1,726 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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Hi Tim, That looks amazing, you must be very pleased with how its come together. Are you still looking for an end cap? I'm doing a cleanup of my storage this weekend and I'm pretty sure I had an 1800 control panel, let me know if you are and I can save the Timer and Endcap for you if you like? Cheers Nathan | ||
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Post# 1039789 , Reply# 73 7/29/2019 at 05:29 (1,725 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Post# 1039886 , Reply# 75 7/29/2019 at 17:24 (1,725 days old) by Mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia) |
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Impressive restoration | ||
| Post# 1040178 , Reply# 76 7/31/2019 at 15:38 (1,723 days old) by mit634 (Sydney) | ||
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Hi Everyone,
Thank you all so much for the kind comments ! It is satisfying that the washer project is finally coming together after months of having parts all over the place. @DADoES, @mielerod69 - I will photos / make videos and post here when I can. @brisnat81 - The seller contacted me many months after I bought the machine to say he had found the end cap in his shed and he posted it to me. I would definitely be interested in a timer or any spare parts you might have. Thanks so much for the offer Nathan. @chestermikeuk - The hoses are all original. We gave them a good clean and then treated them with Armor All. It always seems to rejuvenate old rubber well. @stricklybojack - Ha ha ! They sure don't make washers like this anymore. @Mayfan69 - Thanks Leon. I assume the TOL fully programmed washers were rare even when new, due to their cost. I'm very satisfied to have saved this one given how few vintage washers seem still to be around in Australia (although I am in awe of how many you have managed to find). | ||
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| Post# 1089353 , Reply# 78 9/14/2020 at 00:15 (1,313 days old) by sb198211 (Melbourne, Australia ) | ||
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Wow!! This was my grandma's washing machine!! Well not her exact actual one (the badge on the front of hers got replaced by a cute Melbourne Tram thingy) I've always thought it was such a cool looking machine - wish I could find one!! | ||
| Post# 1089355 , Reply# 79 9/14/2020 at 00:36 (1,313 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
Reminds me of my 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII washer I acquired a little over a month ago a.ong with its matching dryer.
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