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Post# 1017261   12/7/2018 at 18:34 (1,938 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)        

Remember when we used to have products like Ajax and Comet and others that actually scrubbed while they cleaned? Now they are non-abrasive and do not give the results you used to get with the old products. Hard to remove stains from toilets, sinks and bathtubs are no match for today's Ajax or Comet.

Are there any products still out there that worked like the old ones did? Maybe I am not looking hard enough or maybe I should check Ace Hardware for the elusive item.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.





Post# 1017264 , Reply# 1   12/7/2018 at 18:53 (1,938 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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don't know if older products are still available or if they were changed to non-abrasive as well....

Old Dutch cleanser....comes to mind

you may have to resort to Industrial/commercial type products......Drackett Products are what we had in Maintenance jobs....


also, you can sprinkle Baking Soda in combination with your cleanser for some abrasive...


another one....ZUD cleanser.....




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Post# 1017265 , Reply# 2   12/7/2018 at 18:54 (1,938 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I also wonder about this type of Ajax....Calcite Base.....not enough info if this would refer to the abrasive...

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Post# 1017273 , Reply# 3   12/7/2018 at 19:57 (1,938 days old) by Kate1 (PNW)        

I use Bar Keepers Friend and Bon Ami, they both claim to be original formulations. Bon Ami isn’t really abrasive but it’s really great on more delicate things, BKF is fantastic on tubs, sinks, etc. I have a 40s era house with an old cast iron enameled tub and kitchen sink and BKF makes them shine like new. It’s great on tile too.

Post# 1017282 , Reply# 4   12/7/2018 at 21:15 (1,938 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)        
Thanks,

Kate, I will if see I can find a can of BKF and give it a try.

Post# 1017283 , Reply# 5   12/7/2018 at 21:23 (1,938 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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I used ZUD for years and have trouble finding it now.. Bar Keepers Friend pretty much works equally as well though.

Post# 1017284 , Reply# 6   12/7/2018 at 21:29 (1,938 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)        
Borax?

I keep a box of borax in the house and use it when scrubbing the tub and toilet. I use some Pine Glo (made in good ole NC) for disinfectant and cleaning properties. The borax provides just enough abrasive without removing the shiny finish IMHO.

Post# 1017288 , Reply# 7   12/7/2018 at 22:57 (1,938 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
Bar Keepers Friend

My new favorite. It works wonders. It will make your stainless steel exhaust tips look like new. I have used it on numerous occasions with lots of luck.

Post# 1017292 , Reply# 8   12/8/2018 at 01:43 (1,937 days old) by Intuitive (Inner West, Sydney Australia. )        
Bar Keepers Friend

It's the best out there at moment.



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Post# 1017294 , Reply# 9   12/8/2018 at 01:49 (1,937 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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Nothing cleans and shines my Farberware stainless steel pots and pans better that BKF. And it also makes cleaning my oven a breeze too. It takes very little effort to remove burned on grease for the oven surfaces with BKF, and its easy to wipe out too. I always have a can on hand and an extra too.

Eddie


Post# 1017296 , Reply# 10   12/8/2018 at 01:56 (1,937 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Hasn't Scratched Yet

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Bon Ami was never an highly abrasive cleanser, that was its key marketing claim to fame. It was developed for use on porcelain and other fine household surfaces.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Ami...

www.bonami.com/our-story/...

As one who remembers since childhood cleaning kitchen and bathroom surfaces with Comet and Ajax cleansers of old vividly recall the "grit" both left behind. Took copious amounts of rinsing and even then things had a sandy/coarse white residue.


Post# 1017310 , Reply# 11   12/8/2018 at 08:28 (1,937 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York)        
Home Depot

I buy both BonAmi and Bar Keepers Friend at Home Depot

Post# 1017311 , Reply# 12   12/8/2018 at 08:35 (1,937 days old) by joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA)        
My BKF source:

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Walmart Neighborhood Market.  I avoid our Walmart Supercenter at all costs.

 

See?  Contrary to popular belief, I do NOT live inside an ALDI.


Post# 1017312 , Reply# 13   12/8/2018 at 08:50 (1,937 days old) by joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA)        
BKF Before and After photo

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Residue and rainbow heat marks after pressure poaching Italian sausage and washing the pot in the dishwasher.


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Post# 1017313 , Reply# 14   12/8/2018 at 09:07 (1,937 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

Bon Ami is not as carefully made as it once was. Back in the 1960s many automakers recommended it for cleaning windshields, but the current product has a warning on the can to not use it on windows or mirrors.

Post# 1017329 , Reply# 15   12/8/2018 at 12:04 (1,937 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        

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We used to carry Zud at the now completely gone OSH. Like everythnig else in this world, Zud is available on Amazon. Good stuff.


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Post# 1017337 , Reply# 16   12/8/2018 at 13:01 (1,937 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)        

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Some windshields starting in 1986 began to have coatings on them to prevent facial lacerations which would be scratched using an abrasive cleaner.


Post# 1017395 , Reply# 17   12/8/2018 at 21:40 (1,937 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        
Comet and Ajax cleansers of old vividly recall the "grit

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I think I recall this, too. At least, I can recall back in the 80s that after the bathtub was cleaned there would be some sort of grit.

And I know I've heard horror stories here about the finish on fixtures getting destroyed by abrasive cleansers. I've heard stories here of people who see something from the 50s that would be wonderful if it were in good condition--but the finish was destroyed decades ago by cleanser.


Post# 1017401 , Reply# 18   12/8/2018 at 22:30 (1,937 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
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To wit washing machine related, early on Bon Ami was recommended by many makers of washing machines.

This was because when semi-automatic (or whatever you want to call wringer and other sorts of vintage washing machines) switched to either metal or porcelain tubs they still needed cleaning after wash day. In some respects just like stationary or portable wash/rinse tubs. Usual culprit in either case was same as bathtubs and sinks; soap scum from using all that substance on wash day.

After doing the wash just like after bathing tubs needed to be cleaned out, and since Bon Ami didn't scratch it wouldn't harm the metal or porcelain tubs.

Detergents and "self cleaning" fully automatic washing machines put an end to cleaning wash tubs after laundry day. Though looking at often the ring of muck a tops of some toploaders, they could do with a scrubbing.


Post# 1017624 , Reply# 19   12/10/2018 at 18:41 (1,935 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

The Ming Green American-Standard tub (cast iron) that was installed in my house when it was built in 1952 has a dulled finish. My mom used cleanser such as Comet or Bab-O, which was rather abrasive in it's earlier versions.

While cast iron tubs have a much thicker coating, stamped steel fixtures coating is much thinner. I've seen several steel tubs that the color is completely worn through.


Post# 1019226 , Reply# 20   12/27/2018 at 16:09 (1,918 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        

Scouring powders were superseded by cream cleaners. Note that the creams were substantially gentler and easier rinsed away.











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