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Thread Number: 77758
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Your light sockets--is the sky the limit on wattages, or are U governed by 60-w, or less? |
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Post# 1017987 12/14/2018 at 10:16 (1,958 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy  (Oak Park, MI) |
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Here are some where I think I can go just as Hi-Watt as I like:
(The one with no bulb flashes, arc's and flickers--and a new socket or I believe that one transplanted from where it's replaced with the plug/electrical outlet, in the first picture which was originally here, proved futile to easily do, so I strung a couple that go on simultaneously with the bulb socket; they are over the laundry room) Oh, and the outside fixtures: the flood lights I used to get were rated at 150-watts, but now I can only find 90, though I think I still get the same amount of light, whereas I'm only governed by the size of the bulb I can keep in the glass fixture, is what I'd like to think, concerning the one by the door... -- Dave | ||
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Post# 1017991 , Reply# 1 12/14/2018 at 10:38 (1,958 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Now the not-so-consent, among the governed:
Do you have a place to test bulbs that are burned out, but need to be convinced, so you put in another base? That is what is shown in this initial pic, in that lamp:
The rest? That antique ceiling fixture has one-hundred... Which if I get the optimal amount of light, (though rarely or little do I really use/turn it on, occasionally for) from that single bulb, going anywhere above, I don't dare! Ditto for those porch lights, as "risk of fire" I remember seeing when I was finally a lot more than knee-high to... Then there is the kitchen one I use, in the 60-watt or less base, I have something giving me more than that via LED-something, or other, and it was hard to hang: As for the chandelier, an antique store had a wide-base going for $60, that I wanted over the narrow-base there for the cheaper $40, so this came from the downtown Royal Oak Parking Garage garage sale for $20, as I would only go narrow, needing special bulbs if I could go cheaper! (A spotlight underneath, on this (yes, this one, as well as the candle-shaped are all as of (forgot how many years ago, it was shortly months after we'd moved in) all ORIGINAL!) as well as the other couple mentioned above... I think I may go with a regular incandescent there, rather than buy any expensive "specialty" bulb, if I ever have to replace the small flood... -- Dave | ||
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Post# 1017994 , Reply# 2 12/14/2018 at 10:56 (1,958 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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I recall seeing the wattage rating of brass-shell sockets as 660 watts - no doubt a leftover from the days when toasters, waffle irons, or clothes irons were 'plugged' into the light fixture. I would venture a guess that this had more to do with the wiring used to supply the socket - usually an 18-gauge twisted-connector style of drop cord.
I know that so many fixtures now have dire '60 Watt maximum' warnings along with risk of fire. Overheating of less-than-solid-metal components would be my guess here. I've always erred on the side of caution and stuck with that 660-watt limit myself. Most of my electrical fires came from my appliance repairs, not light fixtures... LOL | ||
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Post# 1018001 , Reply# 3 12/14/2018 at 11:42 (1,958 days old) by lowefficiency (Iowa) |
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For area lighting, you might consider adding more fixtures instead of using brighter bulbs. More fixtures with dimmer bulbs (or diffused LED surfaces) would give you less glare and fewer shadows for an equivalent amount of light, plus have less of an impact if one burns out. Even lighting is one of the best ways to make a workspace safe and pleasant, especially if that space is a basement.
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Post# 1021663 , Reply# 4 1/19/2019 at 03:30 (1,922 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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So not necessarily a rant, I get optimal light from all my fixtures...
Regarding the "can" hanging in the kitchen, my mom strongly hated those designs and replaced them with boring white globe: The pic of it off so you can see what it looks like, in another thread I posted, a drum across from it, shows it dark like that in its incandescent obsolescence, so that's the only light I have on in my kitchen, until I can ever crawl up in the ceiling to find a way to put one single fixture in the middle... Here are some pics I have a Tiffany that I was lucky to find at an antique exposition taking place in a parking garage one weekend, annually, in fact, in downtown Royal Oak, of which it must have been earlier in this decade I'd last gone... I'd even thought that globe was burned out, as the native thumbwheel cordswitch had been turned off, while I was using an easier to use toggle switch that is actually at the end of a long cord attached to a plug that goes into the wall which is used in another lamp I'll show you next... Yes, something was inspiring to make me lucky to find and utilize this lamp (as well as the other I will post next) to use as my only basement lighting, now that the ceiling fluorescent lights above in ceiling panels are still burning out... (That is, click on the link to see such a fixture like that behind recording engineer Eric Prestige) -- Dave CLICK HERE TO GO TO DaveAMKrayoGuy's LINK | ||
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Post# 1021665 , Reply# 5 1/19/2019 at 03:47 (1,922 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Okay, as promised, and an antique store on 8-Mile Road towards the Warren/Eastpoint-area was where this came from...
Originally that toggle'd plug switch was a dimmer model, (which is now used on my 3-bulb brass boulliot table lamp) and that lamp was also over my stereo set in the basement, (before it quickly came upstairs when I got tired of listening and freezing down there, as I'd quickly wanted my man cave up here) as it was in my basement bedroom when I'd last lived with my parents... The wiring is probably very old, and my mom disliked it hanging partially on, with that dimmer switch, even at nearest its lowest setting when we'd just moved into this house, as it tends to arc and flicker, though very slightly, (fearing it would cause a fire) but it's even less used than the Tiffany, supplanting the yet to completely burn out florescent ceiling panels... (I think the link is a "debate" over "chicken or egg--which came first?" As I don't remember if I had it before or after seeing Phil Ochs standing under a light like it) -- Dave CLICK HERE TO GO TO DaveAMKrayoGuy's LINK This post was last edited 01/19/2019 at 04:03 | ||
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Post# 1021705 , Reply# 6 1/19/2019 at 14:48 (1,922 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN) |
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Post# 1021720 , Reply# 8 1/19/2019 at 16:27 (1,922 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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I'm done, mostly, with incandescent and even CFL light bulbs. LED's have gotten so good and affordable it makes little sense to try to heat up a room with light bulbs. Here in California the de facto rate for residential electricity is nearly $.30/KWh. Easily three times what people in the mid-west seem to pay. Only about 1/3 of my electricity bill is for actual power generation; the rest is for transmission, maintenance, overhead, fees, and taxes. It makes residential rooftop solar more and more of a viable alternative.
The remaining bulb concern is primarily with tight light enclosures - some LED designs seem to require an open fixture so they can quickly dissipate what little heat they produce. My alternative lately has been to replace such fixtures (usually ceiling) with new fixtures incorporating LED technology. It may even be, eventually, that screw type lighting fixtures do the way of the long playing vinyl record and its associated playback equipment. Collectors only. | ||
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Post# 1021736 , Reply# 11 1/19/2019 at 19:48 (1,922 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1021780 , Reply# 12 1/20/2019 at 00:38 (1,922 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Yes, standard fluorescent tubes contain mercury. It's essential for the fluorescence to work. Basically the mercury vaporizes when the ballast supplies a high voltage to the electrodes in the tube, and emits UV light. The UV light hits the phosphor on the inside of the tube glass and that phosphor fluoresces in visible light.
There is one thing about the health risks. Comparing it to mercury in fish is not entirely equivalent. The mercury in fish has been through the food chain and is in an organic compound. Organic mercury compounds are far more toxic than elemental mercury. Neither is good, but there are several orders of magnitude at play. | ||
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Post# 1021792 , Reply# 15 1/20/2019 at 03:18 (1,921 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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 I have mostly LED bulbs now except for the tube fluorescents in the bathroom, kitchen, and laundry. I just recently installed recessed lighting in the bathroom with the new vent fan and put those new LED conversions in them...they are nice. Planning to eventually install more recessed fixtures in the living room and kitchen for more directed lighting. | ||
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Post# 1021866 , Reply# 16 1/20/2019 at 16:55 (1,921 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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I like the 3000 K "soft white" LED bulbs.
I only use the high temp lights in the kitchen and shop areas. Main reason is that the blue light from the high temp ones tends to keep one awake, and I was having trouble getting to sleep if I had bright white light on before bedtime in the office, bedroom, bath. Also have enable the "Night Light" option on my Windows 10 machine. About 1/2 hour before I *should* retire, the screen gets more yellow. Often that will induce drowsiness all on its own. | ||
| Post# 1021885 , Reply# 17 1/20/2019 at 19:14 (1,921 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA) | ||
LEDs have their place, but then so do incandescents. I finally found some LEDs that work well at low temps and that I can't distinguish from their old incandescent counterparts. They're doing fine in my outdoor fixtures.
On the other hand, I haven't found a good 40w incandescent replacement for in the house. I've bought and returned all sorts...just too darn hash, even behind frosted glass. Of course here in the midwest, every incandescent that gets replaced means one more increase I have to make on the thermostat. And when it comes to reliability, you can't beat the simplicity of an old fashioned bulb against a lowest-bidder Chinese power supply. I don't care what sort of guarantee the LED has; any trip to replace a failed bulb is too many. | ||
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Post# 1021888 , Reply# 18 1/20/2019 at 19:37 (1,921 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa) |
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I too have tried a number of them, and there are three areas that are proving difficult for LED bulbs:
1) Being FULLY dimmable over the entire range. Some are "dimmer compatible", but have a minimum brightness that is far more light output than an equivalent incandescent. It's like they dim from 50-100% instead of 0-100%. So they aren't a like-for-like replacement. 2) Being DIM enough! If I had a 25W bulb in a lamp, it's because I didn't want it to be super bright. If I pick up a "25W equivalent" LED bulb, I don't care if it only uses 4 watts of light - I want it to actually look like a 25W bulb - not like a 40W! I think manufacturers are tuning their bulbs to be brighter than needed, so that they seem superior when installed (psychological tricks). 3) Flicker. So many LED bulbs still have a fast PWM strobing effect. Such a bummer. | ||
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Post# 1021902 , Reply# 19 1/21/2019 at 00:27 (1,921 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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For me have gone back to halogen.The current GE and Sylvania CFL and LED lamps are JUNK!!!!Tried both they only last a few months or worse--GE LED Reveal lamps lasted a WEEK!!!!Got sick of this and went to halogens-MUCH better and they are still working. | ||
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Post# 1021903 , Reply# 20 1/21/2019 at 00:29 (1,921 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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I do have some Kitchner LED lamps that are now a couple years old--these have been doing fine.wish I could still get them.The Kitchner bulbs have been doing well in my ceiling fan. | ||
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Post# 1021919 , Reply# 22 1/21/2019 at 06:37 (1,920 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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The Kitchner lamps are running fine-they are a few years old.It was the GE,Sylvania LED lamps I had trouble with.Lowes no longer has the Kitchner bulbs.And they are the warm"filament" style ones.Like them a lot-would like to get more. | ||
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