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Post# 1018459   12/18/2018 at 23:16 by dylanmitchell (San Diego, CA)        

What are the better quality and function options for commercial laundry in a 6 room bed and breakfast? We have lots of bulky loads from comforters and bedding to some pretty large loads or towels. Replacing two older 2007 era Speed Queen front loaders home style machines and don't want to schlep king conforters to the laundromat anymore. Looking at the 20 to 30-pound options designed for multi-housing or commercial with no coin dispenser. Want something that can handle a king comforter easily. Price is open but hopefully under the 7k to 10k range for a commercial style washer and companion dryer. We need it to be softmount but can provide the 220 or 240 volt power and set up a floor drain since most won't have a pump like a home machine.

Looking at something like these but it's hard to determine costs and use equipment we've seen is often at the end of it's life not too many folks give these up until they're practically dead machines walking.

www.pwslaundrywest.com/i-...

unimac.com/products/unimac-washer...

Know SQ, Unimac are Alliance brands also open so something like a Dexter or other quality low maintenance brands.


Post# 1018462 , Reply# 1   12/18/2018 at 23:27 by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Miele?

https://www.mieleusa.com/professional/washers-390.htm


Post# 1018471 , Reply# 2   12/19/2018 at 03:58 by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Post# 1018476 , Reply# 3   12/19/2018 at 05:33 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Unless planning to launder one duvet at a time, you may want to seriously consider a 50lb washer.

Unless programmed to spin before pre-wash, between that cycle and wash or after down filled items won't compact the same as say a load of towels or other absorbent items. So you want to give duvets and pillows plenty of room to move about.





Our local only has the one 50lb unit which nearly always is busy. Often with people doing half (or barely) loads, but I digress. Have put one king down duvet in the 35lb washers, but don't think two would be a good idea.


Post# 1018477 , Reply# 4   12/19/2018 at 06:00 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Electrolux has a range of soft mount machines:

professional.electroluxusa.com/l...

Use the filter to find the soft mount machines.


Post# 1018483 , Reply# 5   12/19/2018 at 07:41 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        

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I would consider two new SQ FL machines, since there redesign three years ago they are easily big enough to wash a king sized comforter.

 

But most importantly get something that has good local affordable service unless you don't mind service visits that cost well over a $1000.00  a pop when something goes wrong with the Miele, etc. When you get into the commercial brands it can be great or expensive with long waits for parts and service, so your decision should be heavily based on what can be serviced locally.

 

Having two washers and dryers would be a must for me, SQ also has a good double stack Gas or electric dryer if space is tight.

 

John L.


Post# 1018515 , Reply# 6   12/19/2018 at 15:19 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
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A fifty or even thirty pound machine may not be possible due to local codes.

Here in NYC building codes prohibit a "residential" washer above 20lbs. This would apply to a B&B (one assumes) running out of a townhouse, brownstone, former mansion, etc...

Commercial buildings are another matter. Our local "Y" has a huge SQ washer and dryers for dealing with towels and other linen in house.


Post# 1018523 , Reply# 7   12/19/2018 at 16:38 by dylanmitchell (San Diego, CA)        
Thanks

Thanks for the suggestions. Local service is important we have a local shop that services Alliance. If we can fit it having one 50 pounds and one 20 or 30 pound and appropriately sized dryers would give us a lot of flexibility and programming is another reason we'd really like having our own large machine. At the laundromat, we often have to run a second rinse only mode. And putting everything in the van takes time and one of us offsite while onsite laundry would let us use the time for all the other tasks that back up. And we're lumped into multi-family zoning and codes like an apartment building so that's something we'll check into before going forward.

Post# 1018528 , Reply# 8   12/19/2018 at 18:09 by moon1234 (Wisconsin)        

I just recently priced out 9kg machines or close to it. Miele was the CHEAPEST compared to Electrolux (Wascomat) or Speed Queen. I think the difference is Miele sells direct on most of their commercial units. Call Princeton and ask to speak to sales. Don't go through a dealer. They will discount 10-25% depending on the model and what they have in inventory. I was SHOCKED. My guess is they don't pay any dealer fees this way.

Do you need an onboard heater? That costs EXTRA with electrolux and speed queen. It is included with Miele.

Here are some numbers for you:
Miele PW-5105 (10kg-25lbs) $6600
Speed Queen SY25 (10kg-25lb) $7000 Electric Heater extra $400

I didn't write down the electrolux numbers as they were higher than both of the others. Electrolux has their new pro 6000 line just rolling out. They are a LOT better than the older 5000 line. Both in features and capability. They will be the first line with built-in remote monitoring of the devices. Run diagnostics, see energy and water use by machine, alerted by smart phone for errors, process chemical empty, etc.

For Dryers we got pricing on the following:
Miele PT8303 $5400 25-35lb range Electric (Need three phase)
Miele PT7186 $3500 20lb range (240v Single Phase)
Speed Queen is almost all gas dryers and we didn't have a gas line plumbed. We were quoted $4200 on the dryer and that was WITHOUT residual moisture control. meaning no sensor dry.

Keep in mind that anything over about an 8KG machine (17.5lbs) will NOT come with a drain pump that most residential models will have. They almost all will have a dump valve so you will need a floor drain to plumb the washer into.

If it were me, I would go Miele. Call Princeton and find out where Miele has their own techs in your area and how far they would need to come. The techs service both residential and pro models (despite what others may tell you). Miele normally will charge mileage for distance beyond 50 miles from where the tech is stationed. Not really a deal breaker, but if it's 250 miles then you might have to re-think Miele.

My 2nd choice would be Electrolux. They are similar quality to Miele on their professional line. You might be able to get better pricing from a dealer in your area. In the USA, electrolux uses LaundryLux (a distributor) to get equipment to local dealers. So there is markup for both LaundryLux and the local dealer. The only upside I can see is that there are more dealers. The downside may be that service will only be as good as the local dealer.

For your B&B electrolux has the MyPro range. They are 18-20lb machines that are in-between the residential and profesisonal models for build quality. Designed for 1-3 loads per day. Have a drain pump option or dump valve. Call the dealer and ask about the 6000 model line washer and dryers. They really look nice and I think they will really give Miele a run for their money.

Speed Queen looks REALLY old compared to a lot of what Miele and Electrolux have on the market. Speed Queen will say they are built like a tank, etc., but they really aren't bringing their models into the 21st century. Miele will have the highest water extraction G-Force rating, following closely by Electrolux. Speed Queen is in distant third. They leave a LOT more residual moisture in the wash for the dryer to deal with. More $$$$ in operating costs.

If I were running a B&B and doing the laundry myself, I would REALLY want that smart phone app to let me know when loads are done. I can then start washer and dryer and let the thing "beep" me when I need to come back and move something. It would also be nice to know how much water and energy is being used. It will help you to budget more accurately so you can bill your customers accordingly.

Hope that provided a little more information




Post# 1018540 , Reply# 9   12/19/2018 at 19:28 by Lowefficiency (Iowa)        

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>> you may want to seriously consider a 50lb washer.

Gotta love the ergonomics on that machine in the video. The control panel is like a foot above the operator’s head, let alone the emergency stop button placed even higher! Who thought that was a good idea?





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