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Es Lebt. Es Lebt! Meiner waschmaschine Lavamat Toplader
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Post# 1018680   12/20/2018 at 22:02 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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No, not Frankenstein, but did have a bit of doing with electricity!

After having that Lavamat sitting there haunting me for months finally got around to sorting things out electrical wise.

Managed to nab a frequency/voltage converter at a very good price and it arrived earlier this week.

The thing is not very powerful (1 KvA) but wanted to see if the toplader would even accept current from such a thing before spending dear on something larger with more power. Had been warned that some European appliances with electronics don't like "dirty" current, and thus was worried about the dreaded "EHO" error still appearing after having spent dearly on a transformer. Then where would one be with both things lying about spare haunting me.

So here I am with this:



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Post# 1018681 , Reply# 1   12/20/2018 at 22:12 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Beyond testing that unit would even power up, ran drain/pump and spin cycles. All went uneventful and seemed to work as designed.

Am rushed off my feet getting ready for the upcoming holiday so likely won't get time to play further until maybe sometime after Christmas.

Obviously using the heating function is O-W-T; out. But will run at least a rinse cycle (which shouldn't engage the heater), to not only clean things out a bit, but see how machine copes with a full cycle.

Having done some research on these cold fill only machines (various English, French and German websites), how they will respond to wash temps beginning higher than what is set seems to vary.

Know with my AEG Lavamat if water temp is reached too fast and or otherwise thermostat isn't used for a determined range of cycle; the thing aborts cycle early decreasing total wash time by ten or more minutes.

Standard advice seems to be not to do this because it "confuses" the washer and throws off programs. Things like AEG's "40-60" mix use special profiles including heating that are designed to give results. Stain is another feature that seems to depend upon temp being reached at a certain time, though am not quite sure.

To keep from frying the transformer at worst and blowing fuses at best ideally the thermostat won't engage at all. That is if set to "30C" but with incoming tap water around 40C the washer will sense this if not off the bat or soon enough not to pull huge amounts of current.


Post# 1018690 , Reply# 2   12/21/2018 at 04:39 by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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Congrats, but running a major appliance like a washing machine without proper ground is a very dangerous setup.
Make sure not to touch the washer`s chassis anytime when it`s plugged in as seen in picture #5 and 6. Better look for an adequate adapter or at least add a grounding wire.
Would hate to see you electrocuted if anything went wrong.


Post# 1018691 , Reply# 3   12/21/2018 at 05:38 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
On it!

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Thank you for the concerns. Glad you noticed.

Washer has standard German plug seen here: www.quora.com/Why-does-Ge...

Meaning it can be grounded either via third "pin" or from metal tabs on plug.

Have put out a call to find if simply inserting a "ground" pin into plug will suffice.

Or, can go the AEG North America route and simply remove current plug and replace with a new that suits including ground. My AEG Lavamat 88840 has an aftermarket NEMA 20A 250v plug which was obviously done by cutting off original.

Have done this several times before and so often may open up a side business. *LOL*
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Post# 1018710 , Reply# 4   12/21/2018 at 09:01 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Wunderbar!

Post# 1018850 , Reply# 5   12/22/2018 at 16:49 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

YAY! I am happy for you.

Post# 1018890 , Reply# 6   12/23/2018 at 02:13 by earthling177 (Boston, MA)        


Excellent! Congratulations!!!


Post# 1018897 , Reply# 7   12/23/2018 at 05:46 by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Ja, das ist gut!  Glad you have it working even if not at full capacity yet.


Post# 1019122 , Reply# 8   12/26/2018 at 09:43 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Pity of it all is

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That there is a way to make this washer run on 60hz from factory. Well at least one assumes so going by my Lavamat 88840.

Loading the machine other night for a wash glanced at the rating/information plate. It clearly says 2100 watts at 50hz for 10 amps. Pretty much same as the toplader. Thus *something* is done to make those German machines run on North American 230v at 60hz.



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