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Is there a heavier washer then this Miele?
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Post# 1019831   1/2/2019 at 16:03 (1,884 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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Ho lee fuk was this washer a pain in the patooti to load in the car.
First it’s way at the top of a long very steep driveway I couldn’t drive up due to an obstruction. Then after making the purchase “the woman of the house” skiidadilled while I was left to lift the dryer from atop the washer, alone. Thank god they had a good hand truck, I of course neglected to bring mine.
First I used a largish box I found nearby to achieve the desired result on the dryer and had it loaded in a jiff...
then the fit hit the shans!
These are, by ‘Mercian standards, small machines. BOTH fit in my Saturn wagon for instance. But this washer? Give me a break. Not since the mid 70’s Kitchenaid harvest gold trash compactor have I failed to load an appliance by myself when necessary. Got the seller back and we did it. But daaaayum!
After getting them home I thought to check the drain, could it be? I mean, I got it from a location with a half dozen washer and dryers strewn about, surely they would have...NOPE...but it was only about a quart or so...nonetheless, ALWAYS, DON’T DO THAT if you can help it.

All that said, what is there to know about my find? I couldn’t pass them up, especially after the longish drive involved. I tried for a pair of Mieles’ on two occasions before and failed, today success.
It’s the luck that comes your way when you are trying to downsize...seriously, when my garage starts to empty Craigslist begins to roar.

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Post# 1019842 , Reply# 1   1/2/2019 at 17:02 (1,884 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Pretty sure those were the heaviest generation made by Miele in the past 30 or so years.

That was the point where the tubs got bigger but balancing and sensing was not improofed much, thus they just made everything bigger, including the counter weights.

Post# 1019908 , Reply# 2   1/2/2019 at 22:52 (1,884 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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You should have seen me and the lady I bought my w1986 from trying to move it from her Jeep to my Jimmy.  We are both nurses and are able to lift heavy loads, but that thing didn't have a draw sheet under it to facilitate the lifting.  We ended up laying it down on its back and slid it into my Jimmy's hatch.  No shipping braces either...but it didn't hurt it. The ride home was all interstate from Asheville, NC to Nashville, TN.   When I arrived home I unloaded it BY MYSELF by padding the bumper and just tilting it down, sitting it on my knee and lowering it the few remaining inches to the ground.  But it was summer and I was soaking wet by the time I finished!  Mieles are definitely heavier than Askos!

Post# 1020048 , Reply# 3   1/3/2019 at 23:28 (1,883 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa)        

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How heavy is it? I tried a Google search, but couldn’t find the weight listed anywhere...

Post# 1020053 , Reply# 4   1/3/2019 at 23:53 (1,883 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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A new Little Giant on AJ Madison says it is 240 pounds, that may include the shipping container though.

Post# 1020061 , Reply# 5   1/4/2019 at 03:12 (1,882 days old) by FreshNclean (WA)        

I have the last front loader from speed queen of 2017 . It’s 260 lbs , built like a tank . . It’s on my second floor laundry ,and initially it would shake the whole floor and walk a little bit . managed to place a half inch thick rubber Matt below the washer . No more walking . I’m very impressed the floor can handle the weight of the washer , rubber matt, water and clothes .

Post# 1020072 , Reply# 6   1/4/2019 at 07:55 (1,882 days old) by washerguy02 (Manchester )        

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Old vintage retro AEGs and Dyson Contrarotators

Post# 1020085 , Reply# 7   1/4/2019 at 09:15 (1,882 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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I'd guess it should be somewhere around 220 lbs. The closest (in weight) modern residential 24" washer I could find is a Swiss Schulthess at 203 lbs.


Post# 1020091 , Reply# 8   1/4/2019 at 10:25 (1,882 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Older vintage European frontloaders were very heavy, like indeed AEG, but also Bosch, Constructa, Zanker etc.

The Dyson's weight was 103 kg.

Post# 1020102 , Reply# 9   1/4/2019 at 13:22 (1,882 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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Speaking of the dryer, the seller did NOT include the dryer vent hose with the white ring seen in the picture in his ad. I just realized and contacted the seller who apparently sold the hose with another dryer!
That white ring looks to be what I need to make things work. Any ideas?

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Post# 1020103 , Reply# 10   1/4/2019 at 13:23 (1,882 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Weight was/is there for stability.

While my Miele W1070 is built like a Sherman tank (and weighs as much *LOL*), the more modern Lavamat W8840 is almost toy like in comparison with barely half the weight.

Difference is the older Miele has only basic electronic motor/drum/OOB controls. These machines will spin all but the most severely unbalanced loads, and will do so without (mostly)moving an inch. More over the machine is designed to withstand such abuse (within limits), and keep on keeping on for decades.

The Lavamat like most modern front loaders OTOH is designed to largely avoid out of balance wash loads. Computer controls of drum, motor and other functions means the thing will do all within its power to avoid extracting badly (or even mildly) out of balanced loads. If all else fails and things cannot achieve set parameters, it simply will abort spinning all together.

The Miele washer also like many older washers has set motor speeds. Unlike the Lavamat it cannot slowly ramp up to speed. But merely attempts (a set number of times) to balance a load, if and or when that time is up off she goes to the races, banging, clanging and vibrating away. Even with all that she's mostly stable as the machine remains firmly in place thanks to all that mass. Very violent drum movements probably would cause the machine to shift, but haven't tested that theory.

Short of bolting into floor/several feet of concrete an H-axis with a good amount of mass is a stable thing to have around.

Post# 1020105 , Reply# 11   1/4/2019 at 14:12 (1,882 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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Not cheap for what it is, but I just ordered it from Miele.
I am guessing this is the right part, it looks perfect.

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Post# 1020106 , Reply# 12   1/4/2019 at 14:12 (1,882 days old) by Brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

I recently had the issue, I bought a vented Miele and it adaptor was missing.

It cost $13 and Miele ordered it from Germany. It took about three weeks to get here.

Just make sure they sell you the adaptor and not the blanking plate

Post# 1020108 , Reply# 13   1/4/2019 at 14:19 (1,882 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
IIRC European dryer vent outlets

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Are smaller than those used on North American machines, hence the need for adapters.

Sort of same thing with washing machines. Both European and North American use 3/4" thread for most part, but the former can be slightly different. Those taking American washers to Europe need an adapter to fit hoses onto IIRC. Meanwhile same is true vice versa. We just laid in a supply of European fill hoses via internet shopping.

Post# 1020111 , Reply# 14   1/4/2019 at 14:28 (1,882 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Miele no longer sells vented dryers in North America

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Nor has for some time, so wonder how much stock they are keeping on hand of those adapters.

This is for residential, don't know if Miele still sells vented commercial dryers in North America.

Post# 1020112 , Reply# 15   1/4/2019 at 14:35 (1,882 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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They cleaned up nice. All the side panels look as good as the one pictured.
The dryer has these weird do-hickeys on each side (see last pic)...wut?
I am guessing those are knock out plugs for an alternate venting location.

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Post# 1020129 , Reply# 16   1/4/2019 at 17:47 (1,882 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Yes, the dryer can be vented through the sides as well.

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