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From Cape Cod to Brooklyn...a KitchenAid KDS-58
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Post# 1021452   1/16/2019 at 20:13 (543 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 1021453 , Reply# 1   1/16/2019 at 20:15 (543 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Originally posted on 5/13/2017

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Well it's finally home. It was a long drive, but always so nice to see the cape. It was already in the driveway when I pulled up, an old sea-dog (or pirate) was the proprietor.


So after we sang a few sea shanties, he and his grandson, (or boy?) helped me load it on to the truck. He sure was gushing about the condition of the KDS-58. "Only used on Thanksgiving and Christmas, it's virtually new!" The way he went on, it was sounding like a sales pitch. I have to say, it does look minty. Clean inside and out. The butcher block top has some marks on it, but nothing that can't be sanded out. There are some detergent stains, but apparently those can be cleaned off. Anyway, be posting pictures in a bit.

Oh did I mention it was FREE?


Thanks again Phil!


P.S. This is the second KDS I've gotten from Cape Cod. Whats up with that?


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Post# 1021457 , Reply# 2   1/16/2019 at 21:08 (543 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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KDS-58 1

KDS-58 2

KDS-58 3


KDS-58 5

KDS-58 6

KDS-58 7

KDS-58 8

Post# 1021459 , Reply# 3   1/16/2019 at 21:31 (543 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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KDS-58 9

KDS-58 10

KDS-58 11

KDS-58 12

KDS-58 13

KDS-58 14

KDS-58 15

KDS-58 16

KDS-58 17

KDS-58 18

KDS-58 19


Post# 1021461 , Reply# 4   1/16/2019 at 21:42 (543 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
First wash. Originally posted 5/25/2017

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KDS-58 20

KDS-58 21

KDS-58 22

KDS-58 23

KDS-58 24

KDS-58 25

KDS-58 26


Post# 1021463 , Reply# 5   1/16/2019 at 22:01 (543 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Originally posted 11/5/2017

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While switching the upper rack from the KDS-19C to the KDS-58 I discovered a small piece of the China Guard had been broken off from the KDS-19C rack. Not too noticeable. Also, the upper rack is in better condition than the one one the 58. The tines are immaculate.


KDS-19C Upper rack:

KDS-19C Upper Rack 27

KDS-19C Lower rack:

KDS-19C Lower rack 28

Installed on KDS-58:

KDS-58 29

KDS-58 30

Post# 1021464 , Reply# 6   1/16/2019 at 22:05 (543 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Originally posted 11/24/2017

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Did a bit of a switcharoo with the KDS-58 butcher block top. I had a base cabinet that I was discarding but the top was in great condition, and it of course matched the rest of the counter tops. As luck would have it, it was the perfect size for the '58. Even though it's a portable, it will be installed permanently where the Maytag 107 currently is. So now the KDS-58 will have a "built-in" look.


KDS-58 31

KDS-58 32

Post# 1021467 , Reply# 7   1/16/2019 at 22:30 (543 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
It's new, permanent location...

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Between the Frost Guard and the Ultramatic:


KDS-58 33

Post# 1021478 , Reply# 8   1/17/2019 at 05:47 (542 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA -New Dates - Wash -In 2020 Aug 21-23!)        

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A Hobart Grows in Brooklyn!

Post# 1021660 , Reply# 9   1/19/2019 at 02:56 (541 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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While draining from prewash, a high pitched whine started and water started to leak from under the KitchenAid. I immediately hit drain and cancel and the noise and leak stopped once the machine turned off. HOWEVER when I turned it on again the same high pitched whine came back. I haven't looked yet where the leak is coming from, but the whine seems to be coming from the water pump. Am I looking at a new pump for the KDS-58?

Post# 1021664 , Reply# 10   1/19/2019 at 03:34 (541 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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I hate when that happens. Probably a seal.

Stevet should know what the deal is. Sorry to hear about this. But that machine is so pristine it is definitely worthy of a repair.

Can't believe that was so close to me. I just put my KDS 20 back in service. They are such great cleaners.

Good Luck.

Post# 1023249 , Reply# 11   1/31/2019 at 23:54 (528 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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I want to run the dishwasher to see where exactly the leak is coming from. Now I know you can remove the bottom panel, but looking at my prior images, I don't see how. Perhaps you can't because this is a KDS-58?

Post# 1023259 , Reply# 12   2/1/2019 at 06:32 (527 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Did you "build the machine in" yet ?

I once had a Mobile Maid that I had lifted up and set on 4 milk crates (one on each corner) in such a way that the center was open so I could shine a flashlight up under while the machine was running to find a leak.

Hope this helps.

Post# 1023262 , Reply# 13   2/1/2019 at 06:47 (527 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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The machine is not built in. It's still on wheels, with long hoses so I can clean underneath it. The four crates is a good idea, but I wouldn't be able to do it by myself.

Post# 1023267 , Reply# 14   2/1/2019 at 07:33 (527 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Leaking KDS-58

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Hi Louis the lower front panel removes with a couple of #2 Phillips head screws under the lower edge of it, take off the panel and run a R-N-H and see where its leaking.


A leaking main seal is certainly a possibility, you might have also gotten a foreign object caught in the drain impeller making the high pitched noise.


On KAs like this you disassemble the pumps and fix, there is no replacing a drain pump, unless you replace the entire main motor and pumps.


Let us know what you find, John L.

Post# 1031958 , Reply# 15   5/6/2019 at 14:51 (433 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Yes, I know, the G.E. is waiting, but I need to do some appliance shifting, so this has taken priority. I ran the 58 and this time no screeching, no big leak. It went through an entire cycle and some drops came from this tab (see image). There was barely a tablespoons worth on the floor at the end. So what seal can it be?



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Post# 1032012 , Reply# 16   5/7/2019 at 10:08 (432 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
dripping KD-18 KA DW

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I would run it a few more times, this leak may go away.

If not pull the pump and motor and either replace or clean and re-set the original sump gasket.


Post# 1033773 , Reply# 17   5/27/2019 at 23:14 (412 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
You were right John...

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The leak did go away. How odd. But I'm not complaining. On especially greasy loads, I have been using Cascade Fryer Boil Out. Without a doubt the best detergent available. Leaves everything squeaky clean. I am aware it can damage the insides of the dishwasher, so I use it sparingly. So far, the KDS-58 is working beautifully.

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