Thread Number: 78192  /  Tag: Ranges, Stoves, Ovens
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Post# 1022187   1/23/2019 at 16:59 (1,891 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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I've been thinking for a while about what type of range I could find to replace our existing cook top and oven.  The oven is short and wide, and the cabinetry it's built into has a drawer below the oven that I'd like to keep if possible.  I'm looking for new, not vintage.

 

It occurred to me that a drop-in type range might have the dimensions that would allow me to keep that drawer.  I've looked on line and found that drop-in types tend to be all electric and few in number, while slide-in types are much more common.  Some slide-ins have drawers at the bottom, but they're for warming or baking and not for storage.  The best fit would be a 36" wide unit.

 

Is there such a thing as a dual fuel (or all gas if that's the only option, but not all electric) drop-in range?  I haven't been able to find one yet.  I'm not considering induction.  I like my collection of heavy duty cookware and most of it isn't induction-friendly.

 

 




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Post# 1022192 , Reply# 1   1/23/2019 at 17:29 (1,891 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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I don't know if they still make them, but I have neighbours with a Jenn-Air dual-fuel drop in range (gas surface units, electric oven). It's got to be at least 12 years old now, though.

Post# 1022198 , Reply# 2   1/23/2019 at 18:26 (1,891 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Found the Perfect Range Ralph !!! I can pick it up and be out by you on Saturday.

providence.craigslist.org/app/d/...


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Post# 1022200 , Reply# 3   1/23/2019 at 18:33 (1,891 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Eddie, if this house had come equipped with that terrace top I might have learned to love it, but I prefer gas for the range top.  The picture you posted demonstrates how a drop-in would allow me to keep the existing storage drawer below.

 

Paul, I think drop-in ranges have become less popular over the past dozen or so years.  I may have to look for something a little older at the ReStore.   The plus side to that is a better chance of finding analog oven controls.


Post# 1022211 , Reply# 4   1/23/2019 at 19:23 (1,891 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York)        
Frigidaire dual fuel

We just replaced our 13 year old dual fuel Frigidaire with a new one from Sears Outlet. It is a slide in, with the lower drawer, which we have always used primarily for storage with no issues. We empty it out around the holidays to use as a warmer. Got a good price ($1400) as it was a discontinued model



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Post# 1022213 , Reply# 5   1/23/2019 at 19:40 (1,891 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Thanks Steve.  I've seen those Frigidaire slide-ins on line but didn't know whether the drawer could be used for anything other than warming. 

 

I think the real dilemma here is that I want analog for the oven control, and the majority of ranges offering it are professional types that aren't usually offered in a drop-in configuration.

 

I may well have to keep an eye out for something older.  I think our existing equipment is close to ten years old, so that gives me some flexibility.


Post# 1022250 , Reply# 6   1/24/2019 at 02:11 (1,890 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

I've never seen a slide in that did not have a usable storage drawer.  36" may severely limit your choices.  Why not just replace the problematic item, cooktop or oven - or both and get your duel fuel.

 

I have a gas cooktop directly over my electric wall oven with a storage drawer below.  But it is 30", and I custom built the drawer to take advantage of the toe kick area.  It is doable.


Post# 1022296 , Reply# 7   1/24/2019 at 13:07 (1,890 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        
"Why not just replace the problematic item . . . ?"

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Here's your answer.  Both items are problematic.  The cook top (34" wide) and the oven (35" wide) are offbeat in their sizes and they are not intended for serious use.  I'm pretty sure that if I tried to buy separate components to replace both in order to maintain a similar arrangement, there wouldn't be a built-in oven that would fit and still provide room for the drawer to remain. 

 

I'd like to find a solution that will require the least amount of cutting (granite) and/or trim work -- as in piecing something together to fill in gaps that would result with a 30" version of either stove or cook top.  I'm thinking a 36" slide-in may be the only option.

 


Post# 1022303 , Reply# 8   1/24/2019 at 15:53 (1,890 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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What about a 36 inch cooktop and a 30 inch oven? You would need some panels on both sides of the oven, but in a color matching the oven, you would hardly notice the oven isn't as wide as the cooktop. Little granite cutting and hardly any wood work.

Post# 1022308 , Reply# 9   1/24/2019 at 16:58 (1,890 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Louis, that's definitely an option to consider.  I have a large section of wood finished like the cabinets that had to be removed in order to make room for my beloved 2009 KitchenAid side-by-side, so any needed trim could be created from that.

 

Or, since a decent oven would have more height instead of width than the existing one, trim pieces might become available from the section directly above the current oven.

 

Just in case anyone hasn't seen my remarks in other discussions, the existing items were produced by Gaggenau and they are both overwrought garbage.


Post# 1022309 , Reply# 10   1/24/2019 at 17:03 (1,890 days old) by kd12 (Arkansas)        
Odd Oven

I've only seen that sort of insert-type oven once before, in an early 70s house. I guess that was a thing for some builders back then. Honestly, you're going to have to have some serious carpentry work done to fix this. And the counter top too. Cut the whole thing out and install a gas oven and cook-top unit.

Post# 1022319 , Reply# 11   1/24/2019 at 17:51 (1,890 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Yeah, that's a useless electric grill module in the middle of the cook top.  Like anyone in their right mind would consider using it, particularly when the OTR microwave above it provides the exhaust system, which would blow minimally filtered smoke straight out into the kitchen.


Post# 1022320 , Reply# 12   1/24/2019 at 17:59 (1,890 days old) by fan-of-fans (Florida)        

Surprised to see that, Jenn Air doesn't seem to make drop in ranges, nor do they seem to make modular ranges or cook tops these days.

Post# 1022332 , Reply# 13   1/24/2019 at 20:18 (1,890 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Would a Wolf fit?


Post# 1022334 , Reply# 14   1/24/2019 at 20:36 (1,890 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Ooooh!  A Wolf might indeed fit!  I'll look into it with hopes the price tag won't floor me.

 

 


Post# 1022351 , Reply# 15   1/24/2019 at 22:24 (1,890 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        
Get the smelling salts!

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according to Wolf's website......must be made out of gold and platinum and include a maid and a butler!  You'll be better off cutting and fitting in a slide in model.  Over $5k

www.subzero-wolf.com/wolf...


Post# 1022361 , Reply# 16   1/24/2019 at 23:12 (1,890 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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I don't know if you'd want to chance it or not, but there's one on ebay in New Mexico that's new old stock for $1700 but no warranty.  There are others on ebay for less than on Wolf's website but don't know if warranty is included on them either...one is a scratch/dent surplus store in Alabama and includes a 1 year warranty.  I also don't know about their reliability...a retrofit might be the best route.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WOLF-L-SERIES-3...


Post# 1022365 , Reply# 17   1/24/2019 at 23:22 (1,890 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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I have a Wolf for sale...
They are $5500 new, I will sell it for substantially less than that!
Bought it with a group of other appliances to resell. It has been fully tested.


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Post# 1022366 , Reply# 18   1/24/2019 at 23:38 (1,890 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        
It could be $50K AFAIC

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After a closer look, that Wolf isn't in the running.  I'm trying to avoid touchpad controls.  Used is probably my best option.

 

People with money to burn are constantly ripping out perfectly good kitchens in this area because they need to conspicuously consume and impress shallow friends and/or business associates with their new trophy kitchens.  The local ReStores reflect this activity, so I'll be hitting them more often to see what I can find that might work.


Post# 1022376 , Reply# 19   1/25/2019 at 02:00 (1,889 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

In your situation I'd opt for a 30" wall oven and fillers.  You'd loose the filler above the oven and the existing drawer.  As I did you could fabricate a drawer under the oven and get storage if you really need it.

 

Being the counter top is granite, you can't go smaller on the cook top, I could not function that close to the wall, but a 36" cooktop would only require a minimal enlargement of the opening.  Be aware all 36" cooktops, and 30" for that matter are not the same.  When I replaced my 30" gas cooktop with a new one the opening was too big.  I had to come up with some solution, so I put some tile that was a close match to the laminate behind the cook top.  Not ideal but no too obvious.  I'm reworking the counter tops now so that will be resolved.


Post# 1022423 , Reply# 20   1/25/2019 at 11:38 (1,889 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)        

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I saw some of the new gas cooktops in my recent shopping--my oh my they're chintzy. Straight off the boat from China.


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