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Post# 1022988   1/30/2019 at 02:37 by adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        

Hey guys I now own a Wilkins servis MK3 and it needs a new drain hose, what should i do as the drain hose has split, should I repair it or try to find a new one?

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Post# 1022994 , Reply# 1   1/30/2019 at 03:56 by Keymatic (Surrey.U.K)        

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Hi Adam,
Unfortunately these twinline hoses are really hard to come by now, i remember buying one direct from Servis in the 90’s when it was under National Homecare in the UK, but that was expensive then £50 in 1994!!
You could try fixing it with a flexible proxy resin. Most replacements are done by two seperate hoses coming out the back of the machine.
Cheers
Keith


Post# 1022995 , Reply# 2   1/30/2019 at 03:58 by Keymatic (Surrey.U.K)        

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Hi Adam,
Unfortunately these twinline hoses are really hard to come by now, i remember buying one direct from Servis in the 90’s when it was under National Homecare in the UK, but that was expensive then £50 in 1994!!
You could try fixing it with a flexible proxy resin. Most replacements are done by two seperate hoses coming out the back of the machine.
Cheers
Keith


Post# 1022996 , Reply# 3   1/30/2019 at 04:38 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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While genuine replacement spares always get my vote, sometimes one simply deal with can lay hands upon.

Going by pictures in following archived post shouldn't be too difficult to replace with a modern hose or two. Might need either one long (3.5 meter) drain hose, or one, and an extension along with a hose joiner.



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Post# 1023002 , Reply# 4   1/30/2019 at 05:30 by adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        
I've fixed it but now I have more of a problem

The motor for the washing side of the machine doesn't spin even with the belt removed so there's no load on it, is there a capacitor that's died or what?

Post# 1023004 , Reply# 5   1/30/2019 at 05:38 by Keymatic (Surrey.U.K)        

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...oh no, from what i can remember the wash motor doesn’t have a capacitor, it maybe a faulty terminal on the rotary dial..? Usually these go on for ever 🤔


Post# 1023005 , Reply# 6   1/30/2019 at 05:44 by adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        

The motor hums but doesn't spin, even though the rotor of the motor spins freely

Post# 1023010 , Reply# 7   1/30/2019 at 06:31 by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Split hose replacement

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Hello I made a new one with regular washing machine hoses and one way valves its on here I will try and find it for you :)

Austin


Post# 1023015 , Reply# 8   1/30/2019 at 07:32 by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Adam take a look at the thread I did 8 years ago

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Post# 1023123 , Reply# 9   1/31/2019 at 04:20 by adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        
It looks great

Do you have any advice for my motor problem ?

Post# 1023306 , Reply# 10   2/1/2019 at 15:32 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Wilkins Servis

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Hi Adam, lovely Servis MK2 Supertwin you have there from 1963 and in the Ivory Cream enamel as well - even better !!

So motor, take the belt off, does the motor spin freely ??
then with belt off turn the wheel for the gearbox , does that turn freely, ??
Sounds like the gearbox is stiff / broken / thick oil and sluggish causing the motor to hum / not start etc...these usually go on forever, its usually the spin motor that dies needing new brushes..

Regarding the twinline hose, they are long gone, I would either get creative with bonding mastic and tape or find to suitable slim hoses and fit them individually to washtub and spin can...

Good Luck with the repairs and keep us posted !!


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Post# 1023316 , Reply# 11   2/1/2019 at 17:47 by adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        
So motor spins freely

But the motor doesn't start even with belt off the motor pulley. The gearbox was stiff as the machine hasn't been used in decades but the more I turn the pulley the easier it is to turn,

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Post# 1023318 , Reply# 12   2/1/2019 at 17:55 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Some motors, gearboxes, transmissions are more forgiving of being laid up for long period of time than others.

My usual is to see if manually (but gently) turning things will loosen things up; then pop things back together and see if the motor will cooperate.


Post# 1023349 , Reply# 13   2/2/2019 at 03:59 by adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        
The motor and gearbox spin freely

But the motor just hums

Post# 1024172 , Reply# 14   2/10/2019 at 04:27 by adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        
Good news and bad news

I found a replacement motor and it works and but in the process of removing the original pulley I broke a small chunk of the flange off

Post# 1024176 , Reply# 15   2/10/2019 at 04:59 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Everything happens to you doesn't it?

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Poor luv! It does seem as if you can't win, can you?

Can you glue the bit of flange back on?

Hope you can get things sorted. Know what it's like when it "never rains but pours" when dealing with a vintage appliance. Soon as one issue is sorted another pops up; it is like a game of whack a mole.


Post# 1024193 , Reply# 16   2/10/2019 at 08:16 by gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Au)        

Can you post a pic of the pulley? There is a slim chance I might have one.

Post# 1024317 , Reply# 17   2/11/2019 at 16:47 by adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        

I've also taken a picture of the original motor next to the replacement

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Post# 1024869 , Reply# 18   2/17/2019 at 06:06 by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Pulley issue

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Have you tried the machine with the pulley as it is? Personally I doubt it will make a difference as the V belt will run in the grove and I would like to bet it will not come off. The only thing it may do is cause a slight vibration but its worth a shot.

Austin


Post# 1024871 , Reply# 19   2/17/2019 at 07:00 by gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Au)        

That pulley will shred a belt.

You can get generic pulleys from any pulley and belt supplier.

A quick google search gives me M & G industrial supplies at 3/5 Wiluna St Fyshwick phone 6280 7517. Or Queanbeyan Industrial Supplies on 6299 4199.

The pulley doesn't have to look identical to the original. It needs to have the same inner hole size (the bore), the same outer diameter and the same width groove. the groove width is named to match the belt width, so a pulley for an M-section belt is an M section pulley, a belt for an A section belt is an A section pulley and so on.

Your belt is most likely an M section, or it might be a A section, hard to tell from the photo. Take the damaged pulley in with you and they will find one to suit. The method of attaching to the motor shaft will be a grub screw, your original one looks like some sort of weird cotter pin but that isn't important, just tighten up the grub screw when you refit the pulley to the shaft. Even easier, leave the busted pulley on the faulty motor, take both motors in to the shop and show them what you want to do. Any decent industrial supplies shop will be happy to nut out a suitable replacement. The pulley should be under $20.


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Post# 1026268 , Reply# 20   3/4/2019 at 23:59 by adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        
Getting better access to internals

Hey guys I need to get better access to the internals of the twin tub but am not sure about tipping it over, is it a good idea? Or can I take the front panel off the machine to have better access to it?

Post# 1026286 , Reply# 21   3/5/2019 at 07:38 by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        

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You can remove the front panel just be warned the wires on the timer etc only go so far so be careful.

Post# 1026313 , Reply# 22   3/5/2019 at 13:21 by adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        
Ah ok

So how do I remove the front panel?

Post# 1026315 , Reply# 23   3/5/2019 at 13:28 by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
@adam-aussie-vac

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If memory serves me well there is a bolt in the middle of the front panel at the underneath of the front you have to lie it on its back to get at it then I think there are some screws in the panel with the knobs you remove the knobs and you should see a screw. I am not sure what holds it at the top I cannot recall maybe someone else will chip in?




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