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A Great Incandescent Bulb, R.I.P. |
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Post# 1024242   2/10/2019 at 19:39 (1,900 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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A glowing internal hot-spot light source, in the form of an ovalesque-shaped beauty, with the writing rubbed-off, thereby giving her no-name, rated at roughly 60-watts, splattered with goo, from her previous ancient surroundings, after ably giving her assistance in lighting a lamp in a room, with one, or sometimes two other bulbs, after being used for a term as a single source, in her beginning life as a solo performer in a lamp she was found in, which I'd never used due to its ravaged and unusable condition, is now immortalized in the Hall of Fame of Past Successes in Light Bulb History:
On numerous occasions she has been flickering, then coming back to life, but as of Sunday, Feb. 10th, 2019, she at the time of 8:05 PM, which can also be in 24-hour, international or military time be 20:05, she has now officially been pronounced dead... Her lifespan had been lengthened, along with that of her fellow rarities in the lightbulb world, via use of a dimmer cord-switch... A plan to replace her and possibly give more details on her specifications to her legacy, as well as what Bulb to replace her with, will follow... -- Dave |
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Post# 1024243 , Reply# 1   2/10/2019 at 19:44 (1,900 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 1024347 , Reply# 3   2/11/2019 at 23:22 (1,899 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Hey, she came back to life!
Yes, that's the same light bulb, which I'd thought had given up the ghost... Well, I meant to make my post I'd deleted an admission that this had been a death hoax, as of 8:37 PM ( or 20:37) that day she lit up in her full glowing glory... (Maybe I was waiting for more responses from you guys!) Sorry, folks, she is going to stick around, and this happened before, but not in that 30-min. lapse! -- Dave
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Post# 1024351 , Reply# 4   2/12/2019 at 03:23 (1,899 days old) by turbokinetic (Northport, Alabama USA)   |   | |
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Hey, Dave - it's probably a bad socket causing the off-on situation. A little spot of solder could very well fix it. |
Post# 1024358 , Reply# 5   2/12/2019 at 06:42 (1,899 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Hmmmmm, I got that lamp completely overhauled, a few years ago... She's even got a new cord...
Maybe I'll try a different bulb, then I'll see if that's really right... -- Dave This post was last edited 02/12/2019 at 09:02 |
Post# 1024436 , Reply# 7   2/13/2019 at 03:43 (1,898 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Yes, the T-shaped Westy bulbs!
It was 10-, or nearly 15-years-ago, I saw three of these lamps with them in ‘em! 60-watts, each! There was an antique store I’d also gone to years later, still a few years ago, on the way to where I’d used to work at, that had a couple of these, with a lot of those T-shaped Westinghouse’s put in each socket, that unfortunately I couldn’t buy just the bulbs out of, I had to buy the actual lamps, more expensive and not anymore likely to last as long... (the lamps, that is; the bulbs—well?) Update on that bulb: She stayed on steady, and had been on, all night, through all early-morning/now... — Dave This post was last edited 02/13/2019 at 08:08 |
Post# 1025623 , Reply# 8   2/25/2019 at 17:17 (1,885 days old) by fisherpaykel (BC Canada)   |   | |
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I believe Westinghouse initially referred to these bulbs as "Eye-Saver" bulbs and yes a good non-glare coating. |
Post# 1025758 , Reply# 9   2/26/2019 at 19:11 (1,884 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Yes, that was a novel feature about those bulbs! They all said "Eye Saver" on them & imagine keeping alive, every one you'd obtained!
I'd even seen Bug Light ones, which they were labeled, and I think there were some auctioned on eBay, a year, back... Major correction needed: And that is that I saw three of those lamps at an antique mall, which at the time going for $20, each was too much and I was tempted to swipe up all three, but luckily got this at a thrift shop and the screened shade at a Salvation Army store, months later... The other antique place had a couple floor lamps that probably had eight of these bulbs, combined, going for, I believe $150, or more, that I verbally expressed to the owner, just wanting just the bulbs from... And, well, while she wouldn't go that way, I think I would surely have had the lights to put them in... Last of all, my late-in-laws had those in some of their fixtures of their previous home, when my wife and I were dating, that they'd moved a year out of after we got married... One was even in their garage, which I'd taken right out, climbing up a ladder, replacing with an ordinary round bulb, and another was in a recessed bathroom fixture, while I'm sure one or a few was in a lamp or were in lamps, but had all burned out over the years... -- Dave |
Post# 1031166 , Reply# 10   4/28/2019 at 23:06 (1,823 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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There was one place I'd worked at which had an old, unused lighted sign that was much like a Lite Brite--a screen with a light bulb backing it & racks across it you could lay letters & numbers on it... (Though I only remember seeing the housing & was sorry to let that get thrown away, but that was it was for & just about every store back then had one in the window, advertising Specials & On Sale) which had a huge probably 150w Incandescent (seemingly much larger wattage than I would imagine it to safely allow) which had a filament determined to light that sign with every turn & I had given it to test it...
I had a few other incandescents also try to light with whatever remaining connections their innards could do, from tiny Night Light Bulbs to stuff like that one, full-large base-sized, a good turn offered at least temporary life...
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Post# 1031189 , Reply# 11   4/29/2019 at 08:31 (1,823 days old) by DE409 (Maryland)   |   | |
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I have a supply of incandescents should you ever actually need one...;) |
Post# 1031200 , Reply# 12   4/29/2019 at 10:55 (1,823 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1031262 , Reply# 13   4/29/2019 at 18:51 (1,822 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Should have given it to me. I still use incandescent for table (reading) lamps. I also have a stash that would give anyone a coronary LOL. I
ncandescent bulbs are not dangerously hot unless you use them incorrectly. I use LED only in general duty lighting and exterior lighting where light quality does not matter. No reason to hate just because the powers that be say you should. FWIW, you can still get rough service, fan, decorative and "Mexican" bulbs on Amazon. www.amazon.com/Satco-S852... www.amazon.com/GE-41030-12-75-Wa... |
Post# 1031280 , Reply# 14   4/29/2019 at 21:01 (1,822 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1031440 , Reply# 15   5/1/2019 at 01:28 (1,821 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1031460 , Reply# 16   5/1/2019 at 11:00 (1,821 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1031463 , Reply# 17   5/1/2019 at 11:22 (1,821 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Any pics of the system, inverters and charge controllers?
Been drawing up the plans for getting 4.8kv and 13.8kv increased to 34.5kv which will greatly cut loses by bypassing intermediate stations and eliminating mid-line regulators. In addition to allowing customer co-generation and solar just about anywhere. Real environmental savings start as the source. |
Post# 1031481 , Reply# 18   5/1/2019 at 16:43 (1,820 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 1031542 , Reply# 19   5/2/2019 at 07:21 (1,820 days old) by dermacie (my forever home (Glenshaw, PA))   |   | |
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Post# 1031644 , Reply# 20   5/3/2019 at 01:55 (1,819 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1031650 , Reply# 21   5/3/2019 at 03:56 (1,819 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 1032247 , Reply# 22   5/9/2019 at 21:31 (1,812 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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I'm surprised no one here is using them or saving up on them though.
Don't get me wrong, I have LEDs too that I was able to get 50 cents apiece for exterior and general lighting, but nothing can replicate (at least nothing cheap) the warm light of an incandescent bulb. The ambiance is just indescribable- calm, warm, wholesome, fulfilling, complete, promising and a bit of mystique. Like a sunset on a river. Strong antiemetic properties, uplifting, happy and relaxing like tanning in the sun. I use the 220 volt light bulbs as night lights. The light is dim and sleepy with the bulbs outlasting any LED. Don't give up what you love guys. |
Post# 1032263 , Reply# 23   5/10/2019 at 00:15 (1,812 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 1032264 , Reply# 24   5/10/2019 at 02:33 (1,812 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)   |   | |
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Me? I HATE Daylight bulbs, My preference has transitioned to 3000k over the 2700Ks I had been using. Like the slightly whiter light, but still warm enough. |
Post# 1032274 , Reply# 25   5/10/2019 at 07:00 (1,812 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I had a whole closet of new and old ILBs till I cleaned out the closet earlier this year and nearly everyone went directly in the trash [ I did recycle the cardboard boxes ] a lot were the 100-300 watt wattage's and lots of 40-100 watt etc.
Climate change is very real and I feel those of us that have lived in a society that has caused more than our individual share of the problem should do everything reasonably possible to try to slow the damage down.
Many of us here at AW.Org have the money to invest in changing to new Energy Saving technologies that will help everybody in the long run, We installed 42 solar panels on our house so we now produce more power than we use on an annual basis.
There were a few rooms in our house where I though we would never change out the ILBs but we have found LED bulbs that actually dim to a better warm glow than the old ILBs so they are gone.
John |
Post# 1032295 , Reply# 26   5/10/2019 at 10:49 (1,812 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1032311 , Reply# 27   5/10/2019 at 13:25 (1,812 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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once,at a flea market,bought a big box of 240v European bulbs-some had that bi-pin euro base like SOX lamps use,but most were Edison and handy to use were dim light is desired :)Bulbs are very inefficient light sources undervoltaged,but power use is very small regardless. |
Post# 1032314 , Reply# 28   5/10/2019 at 14:01 (1,812 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1032330 , Reply# 29   5/10/2019 at 18:23 (1,811 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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some GE LEDs make a faint "sizzling" sound that can be heard if you are very close to them-these are the silver ones GE had back around 2010,some of my fav. LEDs :)LEDs can be guilty of flicker and EMI noise as well. |
Post# 1032338 , Reply# 30   5/10/2019 at 20:01 (1,811 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1032356 , Reply# 31   5/10/2019 at 22:54 (1,811 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1032364 , Reply# 33   5/11/2019 at 04:34 (1,811 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Hmmmmm, talk about disposing light bulbs, of their using destroying our environment, whereas what happens to the landfill receiving all that twisted metal of bases and filliments and broken glass?
Versus, incandescent hoards, of which I had amassed one, myself, even with a number of squiggly fluorescent lamps when they were mandated for lighting with energy consumption--but now, if only something would burn out! The folks like me, craving more light that LED's can't deliver, nor in the form that old fashioned incandescents can do, if they're properly watted and well-made, and THOSE will fit light sockets in the lamp and light sockets we're still using, and least if all, our appliances... And last of all, what does this solar set-up (as been cited) look like? We'd all like to know... -- Dave |
Post# 1032392 , Reply# 34   5/11/2019 at 15:47 (1,810 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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I'm not getting rid of them, any LEDs I have used don't last. I can't stand the awful color rendering of them either, I frankly believe that they fudge the CRI numbers on most of them because I have some old 60 CRI High Output flourescent fixtures that provide better quality of light than many LEDs. There is a massive difference between the living room which still is illuminated with 100 watt incandescent lamps and the kitchen which has LEDs. They are supposed to be the warmer color temperature, too but it doesn't matter, they still make everything look awful, even compared to an old CFL, let alone an incandescent.
I often head people say that this unreliability and color rendering is all a problem of Edison base retrofit lamps, and proper LED fixtures are the answer. In my garage we have four LED utility lights and one already failed, they aren't that bright either, only equivalent to one F40T12/HO flourescent tube, and there are two per fixture. They weren't cheap either, costing nearly $60 a piece. 1.75 years later, outside the warranty, of course one failed. Not to be out done, I tore it apart and found a bad solder connection on the 24v switch mode power supply. They potted one side of board to make it hard to service, strangely the component side so all the electrolytic capacitors would get hot and dry out. This failure rate will most definitely cost more than the electricity savings over flourescent, even the venerable old T12 type. To summarize, I'm still not impressed with LEDs. I'm not opposed to CFLs though, they seem to produce better light quality, but they don't seem to hold up anything like the old incandescent bulbs do. *The second picture is powering the LED strips directly off of my Sencore VA-48 video analyst, using its DC power supply function. As can be seen in the fourth picture after resoldering the bad connection, I depotted most of the board. |
Post# 1032476 , Reply# 35   5/12/2019 at 17:53 (1,809 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1032479 , Reply# 36   5/12/2019 at 18:45 (1,809 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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Post# 1032995 , Reply# 39   5/18/2019 at 19:51 (1,803 days old) by sarahperdue (Alabama)   |   | |
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John,
I completely understand where you’re coming from. I’m using LED all over this house and The Pines. I have filament, dimmable LEDs in our chandelier. They might not be quite as cozy but a reasonable trade out for the energy savings. I have a bunch of 15 watt incandescent bulbs I’m not using. You’ve just given me permission to toss them. Thanks. I think our house in town is a prime candidate for solar panels on the roof, but let one volt get back to the grid and Alabama Power slaps on outrageous service charges and requires home owners to purchase special expensive meters. I have friends who are taking Alabama Power to court as I type... Christmas lights are my incandescent weakness although I’m probably going to switch out the front porch garland lights next year. Just wish they’d make the LED Christmas lights from glass. The plastic ones look so... Only tangentially related, I bought a Ouija board at an estate sale about a year ago. I planned to sell it on eBay, but I couldn’t. I’m Christian but not extreme or superstitious, but the board felt wrong. I had this strong sense that it was a doorway that, once open, would invite evil to come through. I bought it and burned it to take it out of circulation. Sarah |