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Looking to buy this 1959 combination GE fridge. Any advice? |
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Post# 1029469 , Reply# 1   4/10/2019 at 12:25 (1,841 days old) by mrcoppertone (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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Also! Any idea what these weigh roughly? I would need some sort of estimate for Uship. |
Post# 1029470 , Reply# 2   4/10/2019 at 12:26 (1,841 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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If that were near me, I'd be making a beeline over to the seller's house with cash in hand. It's exactly what I'm looking for.
However, the cost of shipping will push the price way up. It might still be worth it to you, though.
I think the color is "Woodtone Brown" which wouldn't have any shading like the later coppertone.
I would say it weighs close to 400# or so. My smaller frosts-freely Combination weighs over 300#. |
Post# 1029480 , Reply# 4   4/10/2019 at 13:07 (1,841 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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I think the Woodtone would be entirely compatible with your other coppertone appliances. Most of your guests won't even notice the lack of shading, and even if they do, they'll forget in a hurry when they see a shelf swing out.
If this fridge were in L.A. you could count on the asking price being several times higher in that hipster-centric market, so it's still a deal with the additional shipping costs. |
Post# 1029484 , Reply# 6   4/10/2019 at 14:37 (1,841 days old) by mrcoppertone (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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Anyone have one of these models and have major energy issues? I know these aren't as well insulated as the later models but I'm hoping it doesn't totally annihilate my electric bill. |
Post# 1029489 , Reply# 7   4/10/2019 at 15:25 (1,841 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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If this one uses hot gas to defrost, which I think it does, at least there won't be an energy hog heating element involved in that process.
While it won't be nearly as efficient as a modern fridge, its merits are worth the extra energy costs. I think there are probably bigger hogs out there than this one (its full size deluxe Coldspot counterpart comes to mind -- those heated the freezer floor to help the defrost water drain away), and it's a smaller size than GE's largest 1959 model, so you could do worse. |
Post# 1029491 , Reply# 8   4/10/2019 at 15:49 (1,840 days old) by mrcoppertone (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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The owner said it doesn't appear to have any gas hookup. I will have her double check though. |
Post# 1029495 , Reply# 9   4/10/2019 at 16:24 (1,840 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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No, it won't have a gas hookup.
The gas is the cooling agent (such as freon, R12, R134, etc.) within the sealed system, as is the case with every refrigerator. This gas comes to a boil as part of the cooling process. Don't quote me on this, but in the simplest terms, GE's defrosting system used this heated gas to melt the frost off the evaporator coils instead of an electric heating element.
If you have search capability here, you can type in "hot gas defrost" and there should be some hits that will contain a full explanation of how it works. It's a much better and more energy efficient system than using electricity to generate the necessary heat to melt the accumulated frost. |
Post# 1029496 , Reply# 10   4/10/2019 at 16:25 (1,840 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Hot Gas defrost uses hot gas that is already in the sealed system to defrost the coils. No outside hookup is needed. Good looking refrigerator, depending on how dark the other appliances are, it should be a decent match.
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Post# 1029497 , Reply# 11   4/10/2019 at 16:27 (1,840 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)   |   | |
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Post# 1029499 , Reply# 12   4/10/2019 at 16:40 (1,840 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Thanks Pat. I thought it looked newer than 1959 just based on the door handle, but figured maybe only the larger models had all of that extra 1959 bling.
I would say that 1963 is a good thing, since 1959 was the first year GE offered Frost Guard and improvements were likely made by 1963.
Here are some pix of a taller & wider '59 or '60 that I lifted from a CL listing a couple of years ago: |
Post# 1029501 , Reply# 14   4/10/2019 at 16:57 (1,840 days old) by mrcoppertone (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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Also, this model I'm looking at is 65" H 35" W 25" D. It would be flush with my counters and the width is perfect. I'm not sure if some of those nicer models you mention come in that size? The smaller ones that I came across were only 30" W which would look silly. |
Post# 1029505 , Reply# 16   4/10/2019 at 17:06 (1,840 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Actually, the dimensions on yours sound like the larger size. Usually the larger size models have two crisper drawers that pull out rather than rotate like the crispers on yours.
Starting in 1957 GE offered fridges that would look built-in. Counter depth was part of this plan, along with clean backs and condenser coils underneath so no dead space was required above the fridge or between the back of the fridge and the wall behind it.
The Woodtone brown would be lighter than the ovens and the dishwasher, but I'm not even sure Woodtone was still around by 1963. Pat will likely know for sure. You might ask the seller for some better photos just in case it's actually coppertone and will match better, even if it's not shaded. |
Post# 1029509 , Reply# 17   4/10/2019 at 17:30 (1,840 days old) by mrcoppertone (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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Yeah... I'm not so sure she has her measurements right. The shelves look just like the narrower model. Feels insulting to ask someone to remeasure but it's a deal-breaker. |
Post# 1029521 , Reply# 18   4/10/2019 at 18:28 (1,840 days old) by spacepig (Floridas Emerald Coast)   |   | |
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Post# 1029553 , Reply# 20   4/10/2019 at 21:54 (1,840 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Ah, that makes more sense now. I'll wager it's more like 30" wide, which is what I've been wanting for years.
Look for two crisper drawers and no coils on top. Those are indicators of the larger models (see pix I posted above). You could always get this one and use it until you find the larger version. In L.A. you'd likely be able to recover your costs if you wanted to sell it sometime down the road. |
Post# 1029569 , Reply# 21   4/11/2019 at 07:07 (1,840 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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This Woodtone brown ref is from 1961-2, it is the smaller bottom series size, it is 30 1/2" wide.
I would question whether it is really working correctly, this was still built at a time where GE compressors wore out too early. You would want to make sure the compressor has already been changed.
The later 30 1/2" wide refs did have two crispers sxs once GE got rid of the silly space wasting swing out shelves that no one ever bothered to use in the first place.
We have a Copper-Tone 1965 30 1/2" GE ref that is going in the office break room that works perfectly. It still has the orignal compressor [ GE corrected the early wear problems around 1964 ] and we replaced all three fan motors with the new electronic type to save power and reduce running time.
John This post was last edited 04/11/2019 at 08:59 |
Post# 1029590 , Reply# 23   4/11/2019 at 13:03 (1,840 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Did you mean 34" wide? 64" might be how tall it is.
I agree now that I see where the fridge would be located that holding out for coppertone makes sense but I don't think the smaller size would look that bad until a coppertone box comes along. What's there now is very imposing. A little breathing room around a smaller fridge would look OK and give the sense of more space in that tight corner IMO.
Is the current fridge counter depth? I hope it's not. |
Post# 1029623 , Reply# 25   4/11/2019 at 19:55 (1,839 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Mark, Yes you need to hold out for a 34" wide GE from 1964-69 in shaded Coppertone.
These were really GEs best Refs, the deluxe models had the really cool Auto-Fill ice trays, and in 1968 they stared to come with a real GE IM, the fully automatic IM was really cool, it actually threw the cubes into the bucket so you only had to pull the drawer open about 6" to grab a glass full of ice.
The fully automatic IM was a lot more problems however.
John |