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Post# 1029528   4/10/2019 at 19:04 (1,840 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Located in Beltsville Maryland, Needs a new home,

 

I can turn it in for scrap under the buy back program and get around $150 for it but would rather it go to someone that wants it.

 

It still works but produces lots of carbon monoxide, best used in a well ventilated space.


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Post# 1029532 , Reply# 1   4/10/2019 at 19:29 (1,840 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Never seen a gas refrigerator, but it for sure is interesting.

Post# 1029534 , Reply# 2   4/10/2019 at 19:33 (1,840 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
FABULOUS!!!!

If I could figure how to make it work on propane I would love to have that!

Post# 1029544 , Reply# 3   4/10/2019 at 20:49 (1,840 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        
Hans.

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our neighbors that had a Servel ran it off of Propane, as there was no natural gas service. I don’t know what was done to modify it, but they ran theirs that way from about 1939 until the house was sold in 2015.

They really are just about indestructible. John’s looks really nice condition and would be a nice extra fridge for someone.

Eddie


Post# 1029547 , Reply# 4   4/10/2019 at 21:09 (1,840 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I would definately have it running for a extra fridge

They are fantastic Im not afraid of them.

Post# 1029582 , Reply# 5   4/11/2019 at 11:35 (1,839 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Notice the tall, open space on the right side of the evaporator? That side was the coldest so that is where milk bottles and champagne magnums were stored. The meat pan is under the evaporator. Old food sciences textbooks used to show the proper placement of foods around the evaporator to take advantage of the convection currents.  Motor homes with gas refrigerators sometimes use little battery-powered fans placed on the lowest shelf to help move the cold air upward.

 

I would imagine that if the burner orifice were cleaned, it would produce less CO. John, you should call Washington Gas and ask them if they service gas refrigerators.


Post# 1029583 , Reply# 6   4/11/2019 at 11:40 (1,839 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Servel Gas Refrigerator

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This ref would cost around $10 a month to run on NG @ national average rate of .60 cents per 100,000 BTUs, so you can double it for propane to around $20 or so.

When we had this running outside we we were getting nearly 1000 PPM of carbon monoxide on our meter, so this ref should differently be used outside.

john


Post# 1029587 , Reply# 7   4/11/2019 at 12:01 (1,839 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Send it as a gift to Mar-A-Lago for bedside snacks in the Presidential Suite, but maybe have it gold plated first so as to be irresistable.


Post# 1029595 , Reply# 8   4/11/2019 at 14:02 (1,839 days old) by DE409 (Maryland)        

You need to advertise this in Lancaster county. The Amish are nuts for this kind of thing because it neatly circumvents the prohibition on electricity.

Post# 1029608 , Reply# 9   4/11/2019 at 17:08 (1,839 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Never seen a gas refrigerator, but it for sure is interestin

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My street was the 1961 Houston Parade of Homes and our house and the house next door were both an all-gas house.  Both kitchens had a gas fridge for the home show.  The next door neighbor kept the fridge that was in their kitchen during the show.   It was a Norge gas fridge and had an ice maker.  The gas jet that was behind the fridge was there all the years we lived there from September 1961 through May 2002 or 2003.  One of the subsequent owners did a complete kitchen redo.  They put the new gas cooktop in the spot where our fridge was and about a year after I saw the most recent real estate listing for the house, it occurred to me that was a logical choice given that's where the gas fridge was.  

 

One of my aunts had a gas fridge from the late 1940s until she replaced it with a one-door GE in 1959 or 1960.  


Post# 1029609 , Reply# 10   4/11/2019 at 17:20 (1,839 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Looks a bit older than mine.

 

I've turned in a few of those over the years. IIRC, all you had to do is say that you disposed of it properly ,produce a receipt, and they sent you a check.


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Post# 1029619 , Reply# 11   4/11/2019 at 18:56 (1,839 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        
Bob and Ray explain the miracle of gas refrigeration

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“Doesn’t it seem paradoxical to you that a refrigerator is made cold by a flame?”






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Post# 1029622 , Reply# 12   4/11/2019 at 19:24 (1,839 days old) by turbokinetic (Northport, Alabama USA)        

Wish I were closer... and not in the middle of a long work assignment with no end in sight.

Post# 1029643 , Reply# 13   4/12/2019 at 05:43 (1,838 days old) by appnut (TX)        
“Doesn’t it seem paradoxical to you that a refrigerator is m

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John, our all-gas house included a gas central a/c.  When the Astrodome was built, gas a/c was used to maintain cool temperature as it was more economical.  But electric system was turned on to bring the temp down for events.  


Post# 1029645 , Reply# 14   4/12/2019 at 06:05 (1,838 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Gas Fired Central A/C

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Had a short run in the DC metro area from the early 60s till the mid 70s, but you never see one any longer.

 

It was promoted by the Natural Gas Industry and gas companies to help them sell gas during the summer months.

 

It was a big bust, It was complicated and broke down several times as often as electric systems.

 

It was less powerful and did not dehumidify as well, it had a very hard time getting a house cooled down.  A neighbor of ours had a Bryant system and they went away in the summer and turned the house temp up about 15 F, she said it took over two days to get the temp back down to 72F, she said she would never do that again.

 

But the biggest problem was it cost more to run, almost 50% more than a good all electric system. Initially the gas company gave you 40% all the gas your home used every year, year around to get people to buy these over priced under powered systems, but once the energy crisis hit in the early 70s they abruptly took away the discount and as the systems brook down they just disappeared, I have not seen a working one for at least a decade.

 

John

 

 


Post# 1029667 , Reply# 15   4/12/2019 at 10:36 (1,838 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Dinah Shore

Advertised Gas AC Arkla Servel, If I ever get my hands on a Servel fridge you can bet I will use it, We have power outages here in the South occasionally

Post# 1029674 , Reply# 16   4/12/2019 at 11:26 (1,838 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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Thank you, Bob, I didn't know that about the Astrodome. I wonder if low gas prices might bring back gas AC in some applications?

The Bob and Ray clip is just a comedy bit, as Mr. Science can't really explain how a flame creates cold.


Post# 1029681 , Reply# 17   4/12/2019 at 12:55 (1,838 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)        

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Local gas company will have NOTHING to do with an old gas refrigerator after the CPSC banned them (and recalled them).

Post# 1029752 , Reply# 18   4/13/2019 at 12:10 (1,837 days old) by fan-of-fans (Florida)        

My uncle has one of these at their camp cabin down in the Everglades. No electrical service down there, so everything has to run on propane. So this fridge works great so they don't have to keep a generator running. I don't recall what kind of stove was there though.

Post# 1029805 , Reply# 19   4/13/2019 at 22:03 (1,837 days old) by sel8207 (naples, florida 34117)        
Incomplete combustion?``

Isn't carbon monoxide the product of INcomplete combustion. Maybe something needs to be adjusted?...

Post# 1029813 , Reply# 20   4/13/2019 at 23:19 (1,837 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I maintain

IF they are properly adjusted and kept clean they are no more dangerous than a gas stove burner.

Post# 1029822 , Reply# 21   4/14/2019 at 00:22 (1,837 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

It is a very small flame and carbon builds up and dust particles get carbonized and also clog the air intake but the flame is not hot or large enough to keep the burner clean. Over the years, it starts to burn inefficiently and incompletely and then when it's in a small enclosed space, it starts putting people to sleep forever.

Post# 1029884 , Reply# 22   4/14/2019 at 19:53 (1,836 days old) by turbokinetic (Northport, Alabama USA)        

As with all combustion based systems, there's a danger of having carbon monoxide produced. As y'all know and have said already, these must be properly maintained and serviced or they WILL become dangerous.

Post# 1029887 , Reply# 23   4/14/2019 at 20:38 (1,836 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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John, the original one apparently had some sort of major malfunction or failure in around 1965 or 1966 and Arkla replaced the outside system under warranty or very little expense for my dad.  This one lasted until sometime while I was in college between fall of 1973 and May 1977--probably around 1975 or 1976.  This was replaced with a Carrier electric ac with gas furnace.  The next door neighbor's lasted long enough such that they replaced it with another gas central system, but didn't have the outside cooling tower any longer.  The outside compressor was VERY loud.  it was annoying all the way over to our patio.  And once the energy crisis hit, our neighbor complained about how high their gas bill and gone up.  Amazingly, I saw a real estate listing in the last 10 years for one of the houses in the back of the subdivision that still has the original water cooling tower system.  (House would have been originally built in like 1966 to 1968.)

 

The house across the street from, me, built in like 1978 to 1982, still has the original heat pump.  Hard to believe.  


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