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Post# 1032225   5/9/2019 at 14:48 by joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA)        

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Speed Queen home front loaders are back, with 1 model in 2 control panel configurations:

speedqueen.com/products/front-lo...


Frigidaire front loaders, whereabouts unknown:

 

www.frigidaire.com/Washer...


Post# 1032256 , Reply# 1   5/9/2019 at 23:10 by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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my only curiosity for the FL SQ....are they now available for the door to be ordered with a left hand or right hand swing?

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Post# 1032273 , Reply# 2   5/10/2019 at 06:33 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        
Looking at webpage linked above

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It does appear there are two models; left and right hinged door.

Still no heater and cannot understand why for the life of me Alliance keeps resisting. Have used their commercial/laundromat washers and suppose results were good enough. But then again wouldn't put really soiled/stained wash in those machines where one wanted a truly "hot" wash.


Post# 1032276 , Reply# 3   5/10/2019 at 07:29 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Current SQ FL Washers

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The stand alone models are now coming with the silly left hinged door [ it is silly how a less convenient design wins out in a market place at times ] You can order them with the more convenient RH door if you want.

 

As to why no heater I think they feel that few people want one, They were available 10 years ago and I only know of ONE AW member that actually ordered one. [ there are also three of us that have them because we got a discontinued model that had it ] But for me I almost never use it.

 

With today's detergents there is simply little or no need to heat things to 140 F or higher Great cleaning can happen at 120 F or even lower temperatures, and even 190F does not sanitize or whiten as well as a little LCB.

 

John L.


Post# 1032323 , Reply# 4   5/10/2019 at 16:29 by Brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

John, I think the question is how do you get a 120f wash, when thatís the inlet water temp.

Here the tank is maintained at 140 but the water is tempered to 120f. If you apply that to a cold drum your never going to get close to 120. My understanding is that there is a push in the US to maintain tank temps at around 120as well.

My Mieleís are hot and cold fill, if I program a 140 wash, it primes the sump with cold and then filled exclusively with hot at 120. When the fill us finished the best temp Iíve been able to record is about 95f and then it heats to bring the temp back up.

How do you automatically get a hot wash at 120 if thatís the inlet temp and the target temp?

Cheers

Nathan


Post# 1032325 , Reply# 5   5/10/2019 at 17:05 by LowEfficiency (Iowa)        

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>> John, I think the question is how do you get a 120f wash, when thatís the inlet water temp.
>> My understanding is that there is a push in the US to maintain tank temps at around 120as well.


^^ Absolutely this, especially if your washer is a HE model, and is a distance away from the water heater.

The current push in the USA is strongly for below 120F on residential water heaters, especially for households with young children, due to the scalding risks of higher temperatures.
Example: www.mayoclinic.org/health...

This is in contrast with the prior recommendations, to set water heaters to temperatures above 140F, to kill bacteria such as Legionella. I remember as a kid, families also routinely set their water heater temperatures quite high so that the last family member didn't have as cold of a shower in the morning.


Post# 1032328 , Reply# 6   5/10/2019 at 17:52 by peteski50 (New York)        
Speed Queen!

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On the website it displays a cycle named (Sanatize with Oxi) - I had assumed that meant they were adding the heater. If not I wonder what this cycle does. I checked the instruction manual and it is not updated to this newer model!
Can anyone add input?


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Post# 1032331 , Reply# 7   5/10/2019 at 18:36 by stricklybojack (San Diego, CA)        

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GE has the same feature described here...seems no on board heating as in coming water temp must be at least 120 degrees. See links:






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Post# 1032336 , Reply# 8   5/10/2019 at 19:55 by appnut (TX)        

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I'm sorry but I don't buy it at all.  And I bet our European bretheren won't either.  WP's new lower-end models also feature Sanitize with Oxi.  Fortunately the higher end models still heater water to a reasonable temperature.  When I use my Sanitize temperature, I see significantly improved heavy food and other soil stains vs. hot water at 127 to 130 degrees.  All I use is Tide With Bleach powder.  

 

I refuse to succumb to the cooler wash water temp pressure.  

 

I wonder what the Allergy Rinse will be.  Maybe actually a warm water rinse and extra water.  


Post# 1032343 , Reply# 9   5/10/2019 at 20:33 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        
*Oxi* means absolutely nothing

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It is not a registered or otherwise legally controlled word that must imply anything. Thus whatever associations consumers place upon the word is largely from their own minds, and or whatever marketing departments dream up.


Cannot understand why even cheap Asian front loaders offer heaters in their front loaders, yet Alliance still refuses to do so.

Myself and many others loathe chlorine bleach, so please don't say that is an option.


Post# 1032359 , Reply# 10   5/11/2019 at 00:39 by logixx (Germany)        
Allergy Rinse

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The Rinse buttons have been renamed. Second Rinse is now called Extra Rinse and Third Rinse is now Allergy Rinse.

Post# 1032365 , Reply# 11   5/11/2019 at 04:37 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Chlorine bleach is not an option for more delicate whites besides that, chlorine make things yellow in the end. I've tried it a few times, but I didn't like it at all. Oxygen bleach does nothing against dustmites, so you need hot water for those cooties. 140F at least preferably maintained for at temp for an hour. I'm glad every washer overhere has a heater.




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