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Post# 1032511   5/13/2019 at 08:16 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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What kind of bait works best? The tried and true Raid brand is set up again to defeat the invasion on our kitchen counter...

Though if it doesn't eliminate the colony, the better selling but also more expensive Terro is what I will have to try next...



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Post# 1032512 , Reply# 1   5/13/2019 at 08:23 by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Raid baits

Never did anything here Get a liquid bait, Terro is what I used, the little devils will eat it up, in a day or two you will see less and less,,they take it back to the nest and it kills all of them.


Post# 1032522 , Reply# 2   5/13/2019 at 09:23 by oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        

Mix 1 part borax to 3 parts pancake syrup. Heat it up a little on the stove, and then drop a glob where they are. Let them eat up, they take it back to the colony and it will kill them. Darn near free, and you will never see them again!

Post# 1032525 , Reply# 3   5/13/2019 at 09:41 by washerboy (Little Rock Arkansas)        
don't laugh but it works

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cut a few squares of wax paper or foil maybe 3 inch x 3 inch...place 1 tablespoon of corn meal in the center. put the squares around where ever you're having a problem. The ants eat the corn meal then explode. I told the person that told me about this they were crazy. I had ants in my bathroom of all places. Had the bug man to the house twice...still had ants...did the corn meal thing..haven't had an ant in over 2 years now.

Post# 1032528 , Reply# 4   5/13/2019 at 09:59 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I mix white vinegar and water half and half. Wipe down the counter and the lingering smell is supposed to keep them away. I think the cornmeal thing would be fun if I could watch them explode. How many times have you seen an ant explode? If I put out some water for them, do you think they would drink themselves into oblivion right where I could see them? These are teeny, tiny ants. I am not sure that they can eat cornmeal.

 

I also read that they do not like cinnamon. I was wondering if I mixed some cinnamon with alcohol to sort of extract the oil and spread it around if the cinnamon oil would linger and keep them away.

 

Thank you all so much for sharing. I think the rain drove them inside.


Post# 1032541 , Reply# 5   5/13/2019 at 11:03 by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
They dont like

Peppermint oil either.I finally got rid of the little s%^&* when I sat in the kitchen and watched where they were coming in, I found the crack under the window and caulked it shut,,,No more ants


Post# 1032544 , Reply# 6   5/13/2019 at 11:39 by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
I've had great luck with

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Ortho Home Defense.

Post# 1032545 , Reply# 7   5/13/2019 at 11:39 by oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        
Cinnamon

I tried the cinnamon before borax. I sprinkled it in the carpet near ants, then I ended up doing the entire house because I loved the smell. Still had ants though, it didn't do much.

Post# 1032560 , Reply# 8   5/13/2019 at 12:57 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Thank you for the Cinnamon Report.

 

Just to make sure; you used borax not boric acid?


Post# 1032561 , Reply# 9   5/13/2019 at 13:13 by oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        

Yes, 20 mule team Borax. I already had some around when I was invaded. This was for the common little bitty black ants.

Post# 1032576 , Reply# 10   5/13/2019 at 16:23 by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)        

Norgeway speaks the truth. Terro works great.


Post# 1032577 , Reply# 11   5/13/2019 at 16:28 by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

Terro.  Cheap, Effective.


Post# 1032599 , Reply# 12   5/13/2019 at 22:29 by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        

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Another vote for Terro.  In my 17 years here I've had ant problems twice (the tiny brown ones.)  Who knows what caused it...weather conditions, maybe random ant mound next to the house?

 

Anyway, Terro worked both times although it's alarming to see so many more coming to get it and it's really hard to resist smashing them.

 

It's expensive for borax sugar water but the little containers are convenient.


Post# 1032604 , Reply# 13   5/14/2019 at 04:52 by eronie (Flushing Michigan)        

Yes Terro works the best. Don't be alarmed when you see more comming to get some they tell their friends then their GONE.

Post# 1032607 , Reply# 14   5/14/2019 at 08:28 by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)        

I had ants take over my shower (first time I had ants in there) and more kept coming, so I put out a Terro liquid ant bait (which drew yet even more) and now I'm down to only seeing the occasional ant in there. Hopefully they're all dead, but they have a sneaky way of coming back with a vengeance around here. 


Post# 1032626 , Reply# 15   5/14/2019 at 12:46 by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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The only Ant bait I ever had work as advertised was the Raid Double Control product. These come in a green box and the baits themselves are black with a translucent top. I recall having one of them that the ants really took to and I watched as they cleaned our the bait over the course of a day. Two days later I never saw another ant...

Different ants are likely attracted to different baits. I never had good luck with Terro


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Post# 1032639 , Reply# 16   5/14/2019 at 16:24 by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        
At least ants are easy to follow...

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I've never really had an ant problem here in the desert. I've seen them outside but that's it. Inside I've had the occasional cricket (zillions of them outside) find their way in through the dog door. It only takes one to set up shop under the dishwasher of fridge to drive you nuts at night. There's also these extra-large roaches in the summer. Fortunately they seem to stay outside and if one sneaks indoors they die quickly. Maybe they don't like air conditioning.

 

The"bugs" that thrive here, love super-hot weather and love to eat crickets are black widow spiders. I remember seeing them as a kid in San Jose but not like here. I hate them! The black widow is a smart spider. They build their webs at ground level, that's where the delicious crickets are. She's smart enough to stay out of the house since there's no gourmet fare there. I used to go out at night hunting for them armed with a can of Black Flag and a flashlight. The light seems to make them freeze so they're easy prey. During the day their webs are easy to spot. They're "helter-skelter" with no web pattern. They're stiff too like fishing line. There's always an area near the web for the spider to hide. 

 

I took this photo a few years ago. I ordered a CD from Amazon and it got left on my porch for a short time. When I picked up the box (had open flaps on the sides) and reached in side I could feel spider web on my fingers. I looked inside and yikes! There she was, extra big and extra ugly. I did the Mexican Hat Dance on the box which finished her off but not before I snapped this photo for those friends I knew would say "have you been drinking"? Once again, I hate black widow spiders. 


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Post# 1032646 , Reply# 17   5/14/2019 at 18:30 by Dustin92 (Jackson, MI)        

Terro liquid baits ONLY. The small prefilled plastic ones that you cut one end open are the only ones that have ever worked for us.. Yes a little more expensive than the other ones but far more effective. The first year we lived here, I opened a box of cereal for breakfast and literally poured out a bowl of ants- got the Terro liquid traps and there was a huge difference overnight, all ants were gone in less than a week. Last summer got a huge infestation in the basement, again broke out the Terro and vacuumed up dead ants for a week. I believe the active ingredient is borax, so not horribly toxic to kids or pets (our dogs and cats don't pay any attention to them) I'll never waste my money on those plastic or metal ant buttons with poison in them, they just don't work.

Post# 1032650 , Reply# 18   5/14/2019 at 18:53 by qsd-dan (West)        

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Food grade diatomaceous earth.

Post# 1032667 , Reply# 19   5/14/2019 at 21:37 by Dustin92 (Jackson, MI)        

Terro liquid baits ONLY. The small prefilled plastic ones that you cut one end open are the only ones that have ever worked for us.. Yes a little more expensive than the other ones but far more effective. The first year we lived here, I opened a box of cereal for breakfast and literally poured out a bowl of ants- got the Terro liquid traps and there was a huge difference overnight, all ants were gone in less than a week. Last summer got a huge infestation in the basement, again broke out the Terro and vacuumed up dead ants for a week. I believe the active ingredient is borax, so not horribly toxic to kids or pets (our dogs and cats don't pay any attention to them) I'll never waste my money on those plastic or metal ant buttons with poison in them, they just don't work.

Post# 1032675 , Reply# 20   5/15/2019 at 06:32 by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        
Enoz ant bate

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These work better for me than Terro or any other liquid bate.  I'll cut one open, tape it down with blue masking tape to keep curious purr-balls from messing with it.  I think they can smell it because it's only seconds until one goes in to sample the buffet and then comes running out to tell his friend.  Soon it's a whole family reunion. 

Enoz Kills Ants Liquid Ant Killer, Prefilled Ant Bait Stations (1)


Post# 1032681 , Reply# 21   5/15/2019 at 07:24 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Tried the cornmeal idea, then cinnamon, of which you can see, neither worked:



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Post# 1032778 , Reply# 22   5/16/2019 at 09:35 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
OH, GOD! WE'VE GOT ANTS! WHAT DO WE DO?

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Okay, a very happy ending to my problem, and No More Aints!

That is, in short, Terro to the rescue! (Although long ago, when I worked at Walmart there was a gal named Tera, that maybe when I was introduced to the product there, I only needed a picture of her to scare the ants away, but, really, she was a good lookin' gal!)...

You should also notice that this location my one,--yes, ONE--ant bait is placed is in the corner at the base of that counter, not in that hazardly close proximity to my food preparation (and due to lack of space on my counter, the eating of my food)...

So, as I have said, and y'all, as well, they are all gotten rid of!!!!



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Post# 1032860 , Reply# 23   5/17/2019 at 06:03 by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Don't be surprised if more show up in a couple of weeks.  Eventually they will be less and less until the whole colony is dead.


Post# 1032864 , Reply# 24   5/17/2019 at 07:31 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
'N MORE "Aints"...

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Yes, they are not yet gone without a trace... I swept under the counter, just to find a number of 'em still alive 'n kickin'...



-- Dave


Post# 1034684 , Reply# 25   6/7/2019 at 05:54 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I bought some Terro.  Of course, klutz that I am, I spilled a drop of it on the counter while placing the little container. It was so funny the little black ants surrounded the little oval puddle looking like cows around a pond, heads in the puddle and bodies extending back without a gap. They drank their fill and left and after that, the number steadily diminished. I have not seen any more at the little plastic bottles that hold the liquid, but they are not around. I did go outside and spray the SLA spray with cedar oil. that probably helped, too.


Post# 1034976 , Reply# 26   6/10/2019 at 10:24 by SudsMaster (East of SF, West of Eden, California)        

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Ants come in from outside. The bait that has worked best for me is Combat outdoor granules. They contain Hydramethylnon. I sprinkle it around the outside of the perimeter foundation, esp near the vents. Since I started using Combat, no more ants in house.

However the Combat granules may no longer be available. This Amdro Ant Block has the same active ingredient.

www.homedepot.com/p/AMDRO...





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Post# 1034980 , Reply# 27   6/10/2019 at 12:01 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Thank you.

When I first lived in my present house, we had a very hot, dry couple of months and those insects that look like they have pinchers on their butts were showing up inside. I got some granules made by Bayer (Still Killing Living Things) and it stopped the foolishness.  I had forgotten about the product.  Thank you.


Post# 1034983 , Reply# 28   6/10/2019 at 12:10 by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        

Terro is what I use, no more ants.


Post# 1035102 , Reply# 29   6/11/2019 at 15:43 by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        
Tomturbomatic...

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You mean earwigs? They're ugly little things. They were an outside problem in the SF Bay Area but they don't live here in the desert heat. Scorpions do, but I've never seen one although a friend found one in his ironing room. It was very small, the kind of you see in California mountain areas.

 

Of course there are the larger variety that live deep in the desert.


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Post# 1035129 , Reply# 30   6/12/2019 at 00:24 by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        
Speaking of scorpions

In July 1972, my mom, sister and I spent the night at the Royal Inn of Needles, CA. We went into the room we were assigned, and my mom soon went into the bathroom. She promptly came back out, and said we weren't staying in that room because there was a scorpion in the tub. We went to the office, and they gave us another room on the other side. We inspected that one, and it luckily was free of any such pests.

Post# 1035155 , Reply# 31   6/12/2019 at 12:06 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Earwigs, exactly!  Thank you, Joe.  I have not seen one in a long time, but am going to get some of those granules that I sprinkled around the house years ago and give the premises another treatment.


Post# 1035436 , Reply# 32   6/15/2019 at 23:50 by SudsMaster (East of SF, West of Eden, California)        

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The ants in California are known as Argentine ants. Supposedly because they were accidentally imported on produce or plants from South America.

These ants are a bit unusual because their nests can have multiple queens, and I've seen opinions that in fact the Argentine ants in California are part of a vast continuous multi-queen nest from one end of the state to another. That's why it's impossible to eliminate these ants permanently. The best one can do is just keep them at bay for a while. Foundation perimeter ant poison seems to work best.


Post# 1035925 , Reply# 33   6/21/2019 at 09:23 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

That's frightening; like something out of a sci-fi story.


Post# 1035975 , Reply# 34   6/21/2019 at 12:58 by SudsMaster (East of SF, West of Eden, California)        

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BTW, the Argentine ants are those little brown ones. Supposedly they give off an unusual odor (greasy?) when crushed, but I've never detected it.

I was in Home Depot yesterday and saw they have the good Combat granules with Hydromethylnon. I'll probably go back to replenish my supply.

On a slightly unrelated note... we have a mouse/rat problem here. Perhaps because home and condo owners have let the ivy grow out of control on fences. Plus there's a huge storm drain near my property on the other side of a fence.

In the past I've had good results with dCon mouse/rat bait, the stuff with a Warfarin analog called Brodifacoum. But for the past few years California has banned it, due to concerns residual poison would affect other wildlife. The problem is the substitute, Bromethalin. a neurotoxin, seems relatively ineffective, and a danger to pets because there is no known antidote. I note also that even that one has been discontinued, replaced with Vitamin D3, cholecalciferol, which rodents cannot handle, but is relatively non-toxic to humans. I suppose eventually I'll have to try the D3 variety as my supply of the "good stuff" runs out.

I understand the effective anti-coagulant type baits are still available to licensed pest control persons.

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread but it's somewhat related.


Post# 1035982 , Reply# 35   6/21/2019 at 14:03 by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        

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Outdoor chipmunks are a real problem around my place (sorry Alvin fans, but in real life they are just rats with racing stripes.)

 

I keep their numbers under control with common rat snap traps.  In some past years there have been indoor/outdoor cats that patrolled and kept them in check without effort on my part.





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