Thread Number: 79360
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Post# 1032797   5/16/2019 at 12:34 (1,799 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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This gorgeous gift, a suds saver that I have hankered for for years (I bought the same model from an ex-member years ago and never received what I paid for, some of you may remember), won't spin and I am asking for help.
It agitates in both speeds just fine, recirculates water and advances through both wash cycles to the end but when the spin begins, it starts the throw and then, about 10 seconds into it, it cuts off (as though the safety switch {that's been bypassed} has been tripped), the tub brake grabs and that's it. If I wait about 15 seconds, it will start again, by itself, but only spin for 5 seconds until it cuts out again.
I think I begin to smell something like rubber at that point but I don't see any smoke coming from anywhere near the motor or underneath the tub. I don't see any oil leaking from the gear case. I have the Suds Saver switch set to neutral, between the SAVE and RETURN settings so I tried the other settings but no change.
Any thoughts where to look next?
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Post# 1032810 , Reply# 2   5/16/2019 at 13:46 (1,799 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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the clutch is locked up-possibly shoes stuck to clutch drum from condensation rust. |
Post# 1032818 , Reply# 3   5/16/2019 at 15:02 (1,799 days old) by Eronie (Flushing Michigan)   |   | |
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Clean the clutch. This machine does not use slipping belt . |
Post# 1033056 , Reply# 4   5/19/2019 at 06:25 (1,796 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 1033071 , Reply# 5   5/19/2019 at 07:24 (1,796 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Thanks for the suggestions; I guess I'm facing a dismantling. I used the Tiny Turban of Terror to remove the stuck agitator yesterday(about 2 hours) so I'm starting the process. This machine is worth it for the control panel and the blue agitator cap for me alone, but it is a Suds Saver and I've had some luck using a new clean trash can as my saver sink so I'm looking forward to having this girl in complete working condition.
I did notice the first time I ran the machine on SLOW speed that the clutch was making a loud noise and when I looked in back I saw two opposite "arms" underneath the clutch cylinder sticking out. It did this intermittently so I guess I'm hoping it's the culprit. When I start the spin, it really seems to be winding up to speed just before it cuts out, so the motor issue sounds likely as well. I'm grateful that nobody here even mentioned the gear case.
The machine looks like it was a rebuild; the power cord is a 1962 iteration, the agitator cap is from 1959 (love it) and the Suds Saver hose system has been bypassed and needs rebuilding. It sounds like the SS solenoid(s) and the SS pump are still reacting to electricity.
If anybody has any relevant videos I'd appreciate the links.
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Post# 1033180 , Reply# 6   5/20/2019 at 06:00 (1,795 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Ken, it only just occured to me just now.... Have you tried slipping the belt off the transmission pulley, then running the washer in agitate and spin modes? If the motor is the problem, it'll shut off PDQ when it reverses to go into spin.
Sorry for not thinking of this sooner. My mind is clogged with Frigidaire issues... LOL |
Post# 1033181 , Reply# 7   5/20/2019 at 06:07 (1,795 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 1033187 , Reply# 8   5/20/2019 at 07:39 (1,795 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Ken, Its not the motor, there is no reverse winding in this washers motor, there is a start and a main running winding only, If a washer motor like this works in one direction it will work in the other.
It does sound like the clutch is not slipping as the tub gets up to speed, the clutch is only designed to slip on a GE washer in the spin direction.
You can take the belt off and run it if you like, and you need to remove the belt to rebuild the clutch anyway, LOL
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Post# 1033189 , Reply# 9   5/20/2019 at 07:59 (1,795 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 1033192 , Reply# 10   5/20/2019 at 09:30 (1,795 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Paul, there is no reverse winding in this washers motor. There’s just a start winding and a run winding, the motor can start in either direction by reversing the polarity of the run winding versus the start winding. If this motor runs properly in one direction there cannot be anything wrong with the motor, hope this clears it up.
John |
Post# 1033300 , Reply# 11   5/21/2019 at 08:20 (1,794 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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John, I was convinced that reverse rotation of a motor was due to a separate winding! Slightly off-topic, but is there a separate winding for low-speed operation of a motor? I'm seeming to remember lots of wires out of my Whirlpool/Inglis/Kenmore washer with 2 (or 3) speeds, and I always figured they were for windings...
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