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Post# 153301   9/9/2006 at 01:37 (6,410 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Has anybody seen the new white knight dryers? How GORENGEfied maybe a touch of the BELLING WASH WIZE are they? Sharp angled panels and a chunky timer dial. Have to admit im no fan of white knight dryers in general but for the money they do a reasonable job and i notice nobody here seems to have a WK DRYER but if anybody does please let me know what you think. nick




Post# 153377 , Reply# 1   9/9/2006 at 17:02 (6,409 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London )        
I Have One lol

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Hi, yeah i have one of those Compact White Knight dryer's. I must addmit it is very quick and isnt too loud either:). it only gets light useage (on rainy days lol) but it does a good job everytime.!!!!

Richard


Post# 153381 , Reply# 2   9/9/2006 at 17:28 (6,409 days old) by glamwales ()        

I have the full size reverse model and I am happy. Yes, it is loud and the reverse is a joke... But it works well and most clothes dont need ironing.

I originally had a Hotpoint Aquarius Reverse dryer which only lasted 8 months. After 8 failed repairs (THEY HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES WITH DRUMS ) I decided to go for a white knight as it was cheap and I did not want another Hotpoint / indesit machine as the store would only refund in vouchers and there is not a big choice in my local store.


Post# 153447 , Reply# 3   9/10/2006 at 04:58 (6,409 days old) by chrisbsuk (Bristol, uk)        

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the reverse action on my new Zanussi Condensor Dryer is a joke as well... it does reverse for about 10 seconds, then back the normal way... i am not technically minded but i suspect this might be when it is pumping the condesed steam into the tray?

i also had a condensor hotpoint dryer... it was louder than anything i had ever heard in my life... but lasted about four years, and serviced the five of us when we lived together (everything got dryed as we had no garden) so that was not bad going!


Post# 153454 , Reply# 4   9/10/2006 at 05:35 (6,409 days old) by glamwales ()        

what better use for a spare hotpoint drum ... heheheheh

Post# 153470 , Reply# 5   9/10/2006 at 06:25 (6,409 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
hotpoint drums

Glad you pointed that out i'm just looking at a Hotpoint aquarius silver dryer or the Indesit. Don't want drum troubles unless they've sorted it out by now.
Steve


Post# 153475 , Reply# 6   9/10/2006 at 06:34 (6,409 days old) by chrisbsuk (Bristol, uk)        

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Steve, i would spend the extra £30 or so and get a Zanussi dryer

Post# 153481 , Reply# 7   9/10/2006 at 07:35 (6,409 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
zanussi

OOOh yes the Zannusi. i'll have a look for one of them. you don't see many of them in the shops, certainly not a silver one.i'm not sure they do a silver full size vented dryer. there isn't one on the zanussi website.

Steve


Post# 153483 , Reply# 8   9/10/2006 at 07:51 (6,409 days old) by chrisbsuk (Bristol, uk)        

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i bought a silver full sized one less than a month ago...

Post# 153487 , Reply# 9   9/10/2006 at 07:59 (6,409 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
zanussi dryer

where you get it from Chris and what model is it?
Steve


Post# 153493 , Reply# 10   9/10/2006 at 08:10 (6,409 days old) by chrisbsuk (Bristol, uk)        

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I got it from Gardiner Haskins in Bristol

it is model number TC7114 S

here is a picture as well

It is in the current Argos book as well


Post# 153497 , Reply# 11   9/10/2006 at 08:21 (6,409 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

thats a condensor dryer though isn't it. its a vented one i need in silver. there doesn't seem to be one in Zanussi.
Steve


Post# 153498 , Reply# 12   9/10/2006 at 08:25 (6,409 days old) by chrisbsuk (Bristol, uk)        

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sorry mate... yea, it is a condensor one



Post# 157202 , Reply# 13   9/26/2006 at 09:18 (6,393 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
balanced assessment

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Well on top of my Hotpoint stands a full size white knight belonging to my friend. I put this thread up to see what everybody else said about them first before i made comment. Now ive had time to use it plenty and get to know it i would like to put my views forward. Its well built dont get me wrong but i have one major gripe. Why does it take 110 plus minutes to dry 5kg cottons on high? Any other dryer i have used by any other make does it in 80. Even my old zamussi condensor. My mums creaky hoover does it in 70 and my granddads philips from early 80s which is virtually the same inside can do it in 80 to90 minutes. It has no detectable air flow and certainly does not heat like other dryers. Glamwales how are your timings compared to mine? Nick

Post# 157224 , Reply# 14   9/26/2006 at 11:20 (6,393 days old) by glamwales ()        

Hi Nick

Yes it does take longer - Usually about 70 mins after a 1500 spin. Personally, I believe this is down to the plastic door which must allow for more heat loss than glass.

For soaking clothes ( yes i still like to wash in the bath ) it can take upto 2 hours.... I know im naughty and should spin them first but I dont !


Post# 157225 , Reply# 15   9/26/2006 at 11:21 (6,393 days old) by sadose ()        

I have a white knight compact like Richard's (exact model) and that will dry a "full" load (ie 3kg) of cottons in around 40-45 mins. My ex mother in law bought the full size version and she spends no more than an hour drying a full load of towels. Only thing that I can say is bad about mine is it is not too good on jeans (patchy drying ability) and not too good on sheets, (tends to ball up due to poor reverse) but for the price I can't really fault them.

Regards

Saj


Post# 157228 , Reply# 16   9/26/2006 at 11:34 (6,393 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

The chalets we visit in Norfolk every now and then have a laundry with a Zanussi Jetsystem RSi 1250 and a White Knight unidirectional dryer... not as fast as teh Bosch dryer which dries towels in 30-40 mins, but the White Knight did dry 1250rpm spun towels in about 70 or 80 minutes. Still a lot faster than my AEG condenser takes to dry a load of towels spun at 1600rpm!!!!

Jon


Post# 157229 , Reply# 17   9/26/2006 at 11:43 (6,393 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
Value for money

I have to say that for the price the performance of White Knight dryers can't be beaten, and that they seem to be better built than the low end competitors from Indesit and whatever. Would buy one in a heartbeat, if they only made a sensor model at a similar price point. (I know they make that A rated one but it sells for the same price as a Zanussi or Bosch sensor dryer so isn't really worth it).

Of course, they do that stupid reversing, but so does my £400 AEG condenser dryer & I always have to divide one bedlinen load in half if I want to use the dryer so that they don't ball up. So more expensive dryers don't really seem to do any better in terms of the balling up issue. Though Miele is supposed to have an anti-tangle feature which reverses the drum if it senses the load has balled/bundled up, I remain skeptical as they don't seem to receive a high rating for evenness in the Which? magazines. Those new Bosch dryers do look promising with their specially shaped paddles, but again they only go one way (claiming that the larger drum and uniquely shaped paddles prevent balling), so in terms of reversing it seems that the more expensive dryers aren't really anymore of an improvement.

Jon


Post# 157236 , Reply# 18   9/26/2006 at 12:32 (6,393 days old) by bearpeter ()        
Don't waste your money on.....

a zanussi!
Whilst this is my opinion, i have been so disappointed with mine. Model ZDC5350. It's a condensor which works well and also the sensors are spot on. However, there is an intermittemnt squeak which can go on to a grind. the problem is the service engineers (service Force) have not been able to find the fault. As it is intermittent dependant on usage, it has been impossible to track down the problem.

The thing that really pee'd me off was that the last engineer to come and check it, did not replace the top correctly so now it is "Skew whiff!" The annoyance about that(other than the incompetence) is that they dont use straight or Philips screws, more like a tiny spanner.

Whist the drying ability of the dryer is excellent, I obviously got a Friday night/Monday morning appliance which after paying 350.00 for, makes me a little mad at Zanussi.

Take from this as you wish.......

Peter


Post# 157238 , Reply# 19   9/26/2006 at 12:44 (6,393 days old) by glamwales ()        
Grinding

That is what killed my Hotpoint Aquarius dryer in 8 months. A squeak which became a grind. In total 7 sets of bearings, 3 drums and 2 belts in 7 months. It also had water damage from a leak inside the machine (bear in mind this was a standard vented reverse machine) and expanding drums from the heat !

Play up now !!!!!

Mine came to an end when they refused to replace it because I had abused it but offered me a refund .... that says it all really.


As much as i love my hotpint washer - Never again will i buy a dryer from them ! Sadly it seems that the choice is ever dwindling.


Post# 157266 , Reply# 20   9/26/2006 at 15:37 (6,393 days old) by dascot (Scotland)        

I'm not hugely fond of White Knight dryers - they always seem noisy when I've seen them working, though it's largely been condenser ones I've seen recently. I see White Knight are back selling washers again too, though I've not seen one for a long time in the stores.

Peter - my Zanussi dryer, same model, has the same occasional squeak - but I just ignore it and it goes away. The dryer itself is great. The drum light didn't last very long, but I hadn't realised it had one when I bought it and don't particularly miss having it, so I never bothered getting it replaced. If the squeak gets worse I'll call them out to fix it, but it's not bad enough to really bug me yet.


Post# 157313 , Reply# 21   9/26/2006 at 18:28 (6,392 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
Skew Whiff

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i like to hear diffdrent regional dialects and their variations. How do you guys pronounce Skew Whiff. Here in Crewe its SKI WHIFF for some reason. Yeah i guess for the £118 a white knight costs its great but when you have been spoilt with a squeaky Hoover HDV6 that breaks all the time . . . . Lol. With white knights not being my choice of dryer for the slowness i admit, but they seem to have a following here. Glad people enjoy them.

Post# 158080 , Reply# 22   10/1/2006 at 03:23 (6,388 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Overhere in the Netherlands Coopra gas dryers were sold for a while. They look like White Knight dryers to me, is that correct?

Post# 158087 , Reply# 23   10/1/2006 at 04:34 (6,388 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
YEAH

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Thats the one lol

Nick


Post# 158097 , Reply# 24   10/1/2006 at 06:28 (6,388 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Gas Dryers....

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Yup Crosslee still make them.......

Scroll down to gas dryers- 4.7kw equilivent!!! must get as hot as US models lol!

Seamus


CLICK HERE TO GO TO seamusuk's LINK


Post# 158105 , Reply# 25   10/1/2006 at 08:32 (6,388 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Thanks for the link. The gas company was selling them overhere but stopped doing it. I believe there were a lot of problems with them. I noticed they don't have an electronic model, only models with timers. I'm also amazed that they still make dryers that don't have reverse tumble. I thought there weren't any of those around anymore.

Post# 158108 , Reply# 26   10/1/2006 at 08:45 (6,388 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Louis - quite a few manufacturers in the UK still do make models without a reverse tumble. Indesit/Creda, White Knight, Whirlpol etc still do. The new design Bosch dryers do too, using Asko's excuse in the form of the "specially designed paddles".

Jon


Post# 158112 , Reply# 27   10/1/2006 at 09:07 (6,388 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Yes, I read about the Bosch dryers and I knew about the Asko ones. But they somehow make that a feature. I had a look at the Dutch Indesit website, overhere they only sell reversing dryers. The Dutch Whirlpool site doesn't give information about it. It's not mentioned in the details. It's possible that some brands don't sell the BOL models overhere.

Post# 158294 , Reply# 28   10/2/2006 at 03:29 (6,387 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Dryers!!

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White Knight dryers must possibly be the most bought dryers in the UK I would think, good price, simple design, (Vented models still based on Philips) and they do seem to do a reasonable job...granted not as well built now as the models of the 80`s ....

Louis , is the Coopra dryer linked to the Coopra Heating Group etc??
looks a nice style, although gas, I didnt think the burner was a total high rater, but that the heat output was similar to equivalent electric dryer..

Interesting point about reverse/no reverse, The bigger the drum the less need for reverse IMHO...proves it with commercial & US dryers...the smaller machines we had built here such as Hoover, Hotpoint , Servis Creda did benefit hugely from reversing just to move the clothes evenly through the heat source...(Hoover was probably the best, reversing every 70secs)

Another major difference is that "Laundry Loads" are vastly different to past years, Fabrics are bulkier, sizes/styles are bigger, hence they dont clump down when wet like fabrics did years ago..

I`m interested to see where/how the Bosch dryers take off in sales with the big drum/ no reverse route...for what it costs to make a drum reverse its peanuts in the profit of the dearer dryers to make it do so....

I certainly dont think that companies like Bosch / Asko / Maytag would (in these competitive times) risk selling dryers, and losing market share, that dont reverse if there was a major issue with it not reversing..."Excuse or no Excuse" which is an interesting statement!!!!

So, IMHO, the bigger the dryer drum you "CAN" get away with no reverse....


Post# 158371 , Reply# 29   10/2/2006 at 11:21 (6,387 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Mike,

I have absolutely no idea if the Coopra dryer and the Coopra Heating Group were related. If you hadn't mentioned the Coopra Heating Group I still wouldn't have known about it.

I don't know with how a big heating element that dryer was sold. After my post yesterday I remembered you leased the dryer for three years from the gas company and after that you were able to buy it for 1 Dutch guilder. Although we have big natural gas resources I don't think the gas dryer became very popular. At the moment I think only Miele sells a gas dryer on the Dutch market. The biggest competitors for that dryer are the heat pump dryers from AEG and Blomberg.

I agree with you about the reversing being less important when the drum is bigger.


Post# 159059 , Reply# 30   10/6/2006 at 09:24 (6,383 days old) by cbosch ()        
white knight bad

I have also had one of these small dryers was worse then useless. Although it dired towles not too bad anything bulkier or odd shaped did not dry at all. Reverse tumble is a joke on this machine. In their defence I am told that white knight still make the best dryers around and are responsible for the new Bosch models. As I ahve just purchased one of these we will see how it turns out.

Post# 159087 , Reply# 31   10/6/2006 at 11:20 (6,383 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Cbosch, White Knight haven't made dryers for Bosch for about 2 or 3 years now. Before, only their "classixx" range was produced by white knight, but now all dryers are made in Germany by Bosch bar the Classixx vented dryer, which is made by Gorenje in Slovenia.

Jon


Post# 159502 , Reply# 32   10/9/2006 at 13:43 (6,380 days old) by cbosch ()        
Thanks I stand corrected

Thanks my information was wrong glad to hear that feel a bit hapier


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