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Post# 1044491 , Reply# 4   9/11/2019 at 00:48 (1,681 days old) by Spacedogb (Lafayette, LA)   |   | |
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I have a 125gal Saltwater tank that I currently have set up with freshwater Cichlids. The upkeep and cost of saltwater is more than I care to spend right now. |
Post# 1044496 , Reply# 5   9/11/2019 at 02:36 (1,681 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Never had a saltwater tank but have had varying sizes of aquariums since high school... off and on... I used to spend a lot of time after school in the same building at the Steinhardt Aquarium in SF, so I guess I got a bit spoiled by those displays.
My favorite tank was a "natural" setup. Just water, some plants, and some small fish from a local pond. Easy maintenance. For the past 22 years I've lived on a property with an in-ground koi pond. So I have spent a fair amount of time and money on getting that going again, and going through the trials of keeping the fish healthy and protecting them against predators. Currently one of the koi has to be about 20 lbs... it's a glutton... also have a pond turtle in there that is getting fat and happy. Plus a bunch of average gold fish, which mate and spawn new ones; there's a crop of younguns stirring up the silt right now. It can be relaxing to gaze into a nice aquarium. Or sitting by the side of a koi pond and feeding the turtle strips of chicken (she loves it). |
Post# 1044501 , Reply# 6   9/11/2019 at 05:39 (1,681 days old) by Sudsomatic (Indiana)   |   | |
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I've had aquariums off and on over the years. Always smaller sized freshwater tanks as Saltwater was out of my budget. The last 10 years, give or take, I've maintained a 55 Gallon tank that I inherited from a relative that got tired of maintaining it
The past 2 years or so, Algae has been harder and harder to deal with.
It seemed to start when I bought live plants to replace my shoddy looking plastic ones. I got this fine, hair-like algae growing all over everything almost overnight. This was new to me, had never seen anything like it before.
I tried water changes up to a 70% new water ratio, followed up with algae treatments but the problem persisted, i used an old net to pull it off of everything as well as I could, but it just grew back seemingly worse. Finally, out of frustration, I pulled everything out and cleaned it thoroughly, got rid of the live plants (just in case) and purchased new gravel. I thought I was good to go but the "hair" came back! I discovered I did not clean my pump thoroughly as it seemed to originate from that area on the water intake tube and the glass it was placed near.
I decided to treat again as the amount was more manageable this time (I also cleaned that pump again) and for a bit all seemed fine.. but then one day I notice these odd little pollops popping up everywhere. They started tiny, I didn't notice them at first, but suddenly they are everywhere and they are blooming! the millions of little pollops opened up into these growths that reminded me a little bit of the spiky outer hull of chestnuts. Again, something I had never seen or experienced before in this aquarium or all the past tanks I've ran.
And so I played the same games, replaced and treated the water... it just seemed to make it worse. Fished out the blooms... only for a hundred more to pop up a few days later. And finally pulled out the last ditch effort again and fully emptied and scrubbed everything, starting over with clean accessories and pump and new gravel and water.
It looked really nice once again, my two fish (A giant Angel Fish and an almost as big Silver Dollar) that had somehow survived all the algae shenanigans lived through their 3rd "restart" and I was in the process of letting the tank get acclimated so I could introduce some new fish.
And then.... I encountered The Blob! About 2 weeks ago I discovered this odd, gelatinous, growth slowly creeping from behind my center piece ornament in the tank. It had slowly started to inch it's way into one of my plastic plants, one of those small short kind made to look like a sea urchin. The way it has slowly began to envelope it, it looks exactly like the Outer Space creature from that Steve McQueen flick.
The Blob is slowly growing and taking over the center of the tank. He resembles a giant loogie in color and texture. I haven't tried to extract him as I'm worried it will break apart and go all over infecting other areas, or worse, that it might crawl up the net and devour my flesh :)
My 2 fish are moving to a relatives tank soon. I think I'm done with being an Aquarist , at least for a little while.
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Post# 1044575 , Reply# 8   9/11/2019 at 20:08 (1,680 days old) by Sudsomatic (Indiana)   |   | |
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Haha, my post was exaggerated for comedic effect. Sadly.... I'm obviously not as funny in print as I think I am in my head though :)
But it has been a struggle with algae last couple years. I've had a tank off and on since I was a kid and had never seen these 'exotic' types of algae before, just the regular mossy stuff that grows on the ornaments.
You're right, live plants don't cause algae, I wasn't overly explained in that area.. I bought the plants from a (new to me) fish store I had heard about which was a fish hobbyist couple with a few dozen tanks set up in their garage. I later discovered they closed suddenly due to a large number of complaints from customers for selling diseased fish.
I knew plants actually help with algae so while I didn't see how they would 'cause' it I did read where it's possible that a live plant (just like a plastic one or any ornament) that is infected with algae can contaminate a tank quickly if the conditions are right. Since all the fish I had purchased from them had died within 2 months I figured their plants could be sickly/infected in some way also. Since the problem didn't exist before their plants and fish were added, I got rid of them partly for that reason, but also because the algae had done a real number on them in the meantime and they no longer looked healthy.
My Chinese Algae eaters I had owned for several years up to then didn't touch the new (to me) varieties of algae. They still cleaned the sides of the tank and the ornaments but just ignored the hair, and later when I put them back in after the first scrub down when algae moss began to appear again for them to feed on, they avoided the chestnuts as well, nudging either kind out of the way to get the moss growth. Eventually they passed away from old age or possibly shock from the algae treatments right before the second scrub down. My intention was to replace them but was waiting for my tank to condition, just as I was waiting on that to get other new fish, but never came about due to the blob.
You're also right in that a scrub down like that isn't the way to go for all of those reasons mentioned, I knew this then. But since all my efforts had proved fruitless and most of my fish population had died off it was out of desperation.
I'd never heard of The Green Killing Machine, that's really cool, I'm keeping it in mind for future tanks. I have to move soon and that's a big part of closing down the tank as well. I know in a year or two, after I'm settled I'll likely miss it and want it back again.
Thanks for that! |
Post# 1044600 , Reply# 9   9/12/2019 at 01:02 (1,680 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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The water in my koi pond stays crystal clear (well, most of the time). I don't use any chemicals. I designed a filter setup that incorporates filter media that sort of resemble hair curlers, in a tank that used to be a sand filter, and that is pumped up into an area on top of a waterfall/mountain where it bubbles through filter media that looks like brightly colored plastic dry ramen noodles. About once a year I have to back flush the filter vessel, and clean the ramen filter media with a hose over the compost bin (makes for great fertilizer). The only PITA is that I have to clean out the pump prefilter basket about once a week during the warm months. Takes about five minutes but I don't enjoy it.
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Post# 1044637 , Reply# 11   9/12/2019 at 12:55 (1,680 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Post# 1044640 , Reply# 12   9/12/2019 at 13:15 (1,680 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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Nothing wrong, but they don't really deprive 100%. And algae is a plague... it doesn't need much to grow "beautifully" and reproduce like crazy. It reaches a point that the algae can literally kill the filter. |
Post# 1044642 , Reply# 13   9/12/2019 at 13:24 (1,680 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Well, in my pond, the only algae that bothers me is if it turns the water green. Stuff growing on the bottom/sides is not a problem. For a while a few years back (like 10) it did have a problem with string algae, but even that has gone away as I've refined the bio-filtration. The key seems to be the ramen filter media. I don't add any chemicals.
I've also read that string algae is an indication of good water quality. |
Post# 1046843 , Reply# 14   10/4/2019 at 17:37 (1,657 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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My mom swore that she would never go through with and bear all that labor, upkeep, hard work and tremendous expense with owning and maintaining those mini Sea Worlds back when I was in grade school, while of which, it seemed, as if all my friends and all their cousins, had at least had one...
Fast forward to years later, in my twenties, while my mother must have hit her mid-life-crisis that, then, it was not one, but quite a few, there was endless joy in tending those tanks, and taking care of every one of those inhabiting aquatic creatures! While, me, not wanting any pets of any sort, reluctantly gave into my daughter’s need for what's her second set of goldfish: (Followed by at least one jumbo-remnant of my late-mother’s fancy-turned-most enjoyable hobby! —Oh, and plus bonus pics of a has-been fridge, defunct microwave, and obsolete TV!) — Dave |
Post# 1046852 , Reply# 15   10/4/2019 at 19:48 (1,657 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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When my back problems along with my current illness made talking care of my small aquarium too difficult, it turned into cube of green Jello. The only thing left in there were catfish. Occasionally I'd see some near the glass. Friends said "just dump the whole thing in the trash" but I couldn't do that. 2 catfish had turned into 20 after one (obviously a nymphomaniac) went on an egg-laying spree. I just didn't have the heart to dump them despite people saying "what, you think you'd be the first person to flush fish down the toilet?' I ordered a little 5 gallon aquarium from Amazon that I can manage. They're a little cramped but happy. I saw eggs on the glass last week. I think I'll put a NO VACANCY sign reversed on the glass.
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Post# 1046916 , Reply# 16   10/5/2019 at 17:36 (1,656 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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Lol. I'm having the same "sexual" problem with my snails and shrimps. |
Post# 1047001 , Reply# 17   10/6/2019 at 17:47 (1,655 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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This is my 75 gal community tank housing about 60 odd fish. I've had tanks most of my life other than an 11 year hiatus after moving here.. Got this tank last fall. I'd kept my old Fluval 404 canister but I've also added a Marineland 350 hang on back to handle the excess waste and reduce canister cleanouts which I do about every 5-6 weeks. I just keep foams in the hang on back that I can quickly rinse out in the laundry sink . In the canister I have one basket of medium and fine foams and in the other 3 I'm just switching from the old Fluval ceramic rings to Biohome Ultimate Media one basket at a time. The canister foams only get rinsed off in tank water every 5-6 weeks. The hang on back has reduced that chore so I could probably let it go even longer. And I do a 30 to 40 percent partial waterchange every 10 to 12 days. The plants are all real. I fertilize them daily with Excel , Flourish, and every 3 days with Flourish Advance. They really take off.
There's very little algae. There are 8 otocinclus and 2 Thai algae eaters (flying foxes) plus the numerous Mollys eat some too. There are also a few snails but the 3 Yoyo loaches keep the numbers way down , too down.. I actually like snails. The other inhabitants are 1 angel 15 neons 6 red minor tetras 3 candy can tetras 6 zebra danios 3 liberty mollies 8 or 10 dalmation and sailfin mollies 7 cories 2 blue mollies a few mix breed fry and maybe something else I've forgotten |
Post# 1047036 , Reply# 18   10/6/2019 at 21:30 (1,655 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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Post# 1047040 , Reply# 19   10/6/2019 at 21:45 (1,655 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 1047102 , Reply# 21   10/7/2019 at 20:17 (1,654 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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thanks.. It's a relaxing hobby. If you join an aquarium club you can usually get a lot of the stuff for minimal cost or free from other members and/or many have public sales/auctions at last once or twice a year. we had one two weeks ago and I got a brand new Eheim automatic fish feeder for a measly $9. rather than the $40 or so they cost at a pet store. I paid about $4 for the 3 Liberty Mollies which you rarely if ever see at a store, a local guy bred them.
I thinking about setting up a goldfish tank.. I had Pearlscale Oranda goldfish in my last tank and really liked them. Oddly not many in the fish club scenes seem to be all that into goldfish. |