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Thread Number: 80464
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| Post# 1044257 9/9/2019 at 03:57 (1,690 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
Hello all I finally found my Norge washing machine. I’m going to need help with it. I was at an estate sale yesterday and was told it did not work but can have for $5.00. I would like to know what year it was made if anyone can help! I pick it up this Wednesday. I live in Niagara Falls. I was wondering if anyone is in the Buffalo area to help me fix it up ? Thank you all.
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Post# 1044259 , Reply# 1 9/9/2019 at 05:54 (1,690 days old) by Tomturbomatic  (Beltsville, MD) |
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Congratulations We all know the great feeling when a dream comes true. We are happy for you. | ||
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Post# 1044261 , Reply# 2 9/9/2019 at 06:20 (1,690 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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A Real Norge Washer | ||
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Post# 1044268 , Reply# 3 9/9/2019 at 08:03 (1,690 days old) by dermacie (my forever home (Glenshaw, PA)) |
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| Post# 1044271 , Reply# 4 9/9/2019 at 08:17 (1,690 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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I would say early 70s One thing is for sure When you get it working you will see its the BEST washing machine ever built for really dirty nasty work clothes | ||
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Post# 1044276 , Reply# 5 9/9/2019 at 09:08 (1,690 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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That is a wonderful find Paul, congratulations. I would agree it's from the early 1970's. Do pour some hot water down the drain hose before you try it. You may want to tip the machine back slightly and see if the belt turns both the main drive pulley and pump pulley. The pump may be stuck from sitting idle all these years and need to be worked loose.
Edit: I found I have the brochures for that model in the Ephemera Library here, the brochures are from 1974... CLICK HERE TO GO TO Unimatic1140's LINK This post was last edited 09/09/2019 at 09:49 | ||
| Post# 1044280 , Reply# 6 9/9/2019 at 09:48 (1,690 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1044283 , Reply# 7 9/9/2019 at 11:02 (1,690 days old) by Washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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Hey Paul,
Congrats on a great find!!!! Norge rocks!! Wish I were closer to be able to help. I have worked on many of these types of machines and please feel free to reach out to me with any questions and I will do my best to help out. Looking forward to seeing and hearing more about your progress with restoring this TOL beauty. | ||
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Post# 1044288 , Reply# 8 9/9/2019 at 12:13 (1,690 days old) by reactor (Oak Ridge, Tennessee-- ) |
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| Post# 1044301 , Reply# 9 9/9/2019 at 14:26 (1,690 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
CONGRATULATIONS!!
You found yourself a NORGE burpalator, and it looks to have a fabric softener dispenser, WOOOOOO HOOOOOOO!
So happy that you found a machine you were wanting, and at such a GREAT price too! VERY COOL! I'm doing the HAPPY DANCE for you on this side of the computer, and I can't wait to see video of your new NORGE back in action! :o) | ||
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Post# 1044303 , Reply# 10 9/9/2019 at 14:33 (1,690 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Norge! | ||
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Post# 1044338 , Reply# 11 9/9/2019 at 18:10 (1,689 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA) |
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A REAL WORKHORSE
Congratulations! You have a real workhorse of a washer. There were few others, that could turn over a real dirty load, and get them as clean as these machines could. They were solid machines, and entertaining to watch. I had a early 60's mid model, and was sad when the transmission finally bellied up. Enjoy it , and don't be afraid to put it through it's paces. It can take it!
Hugs, David | ||
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Post# 1044348 , Reply# 12 9/9/2019 at 19:15 (1,689 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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A clarrification to what some have said This is NOT the TOL or next to TOL model. This is a n upper level model because it's got the 4 speed combinations as well as the 4 of 5 water temp combinations. Probably just about a perfect washer with that flexibility!! The TOL model would have preprogrammed buttons (10-12) as well as 3 agitation speeds. And soak-to-wash detergent dispenser. | ||
| Post# 1044353 , Reply# 13 9/9/2019 at 20:17 (1,689 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1044360 , Reply# 14 9/9/2019 at 21:20 (1,689 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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TOL Norge Wassher | ||
| Post# 1044363 , Reply# 15 9/9/2019 at 21:37 (1,689 days old) by Ralph611 (Berwyn, Il) | ||
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Hi Paul That is a beautiful machine. We had a friend that had one. It was a workhorse. | ||
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Post# 1044364 , Reply# 16 9/9/2019 at 21:42 (1,689 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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It's just a jump to the left... Well featured and very flexible. This is a cool find, had a customer with a set of this era, always thought the washer timer dial on the left a bit unsettling. Everyone is right about the washing ability, it's a strong machine.
Same 1974 brochure Robert mentioned above - Bob is correct, two models above the model from original post.
Edited: I added the third model from the brochure Glenn mentions in 3, 2, 1.. This post was last edited 09/09/2019 at 22:12 | ||
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Post# 1044366 , Reply# 17 9/9/2019 at 21:55 (1,689 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 I was writing out the details from the brochure, refreshed the thread in another tab and see Greg did the screen caps of three models. There's also a fourth model. LWA2050C -- 2 speed, variable water level. Rotary four temp combos, rotary three speed combos. Stated as 8 cycles. Regular and Prewash cycles on timer. I suspect there may be one or more lower models not in the brochure (1-speed?) | ||
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Post# 1044368 , Reply# 18 9/9/2019 at 22:10 (1,689 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Timer question: The timers for the three upper models have a starting point designed with two arrows preceding the Automatic Soak Cycle. Suds return?? | ||
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Post# 1044371 , Reply# 19 9/9/2019 at 22:48 (1,689 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Glenn, most likely for suds return. Our Norge had a wide "dead" space between the end of the cycle and the beginning of the soak. I discovered there was a couple of increments whereby it would agitate. Found out as an adult, here, it was mostlikely the area for suds return for said feature equipped. | ||
| Post# 1044385 , Reply# 20 9/10/2019 at 03:28 (1,689 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Post# 1044402 , Reply# 21 9/10/2019 at 07:22 (1,689 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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| Post# 1044656 , Reply# 23 9/12/2019 at 17:22 (1,686 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I cleaned up the Norge !!
So yesterday I was so excited. I picked up the NORGE washing machine from the estate sale. I cleaned it up really well. It washed and spin fine . I filled it for a second time . When the fill ended the tub indexed and then froze? No agitation, blew circuit breaker and I smelled burnt electric wires? But it spins out water with neutral drain? WHY OR WHAT would cause this? How can it be fixed my friends ?
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Post# 1044659 , Reply# 24 9/12/2019 at 18:14 (1,686 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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When the fill ended the tub indexed and then froze? Paul did the agitator turn at all or did the tub simply turn 1/2 to 3/4 of a turn and then it locked up once it engaged the brake latch?
If it neutral drains and spins okay then the clutch spring is fine. It sounds like the agitation gears in the transmission may be locked up. The oil may have thickened and it may need to be taken apart and cleaned. The agitation gears may come loose with some very hot water in the tub (filled to the max water level). You may have to block the washer up and manually turn the pulley under the washer in the agitation direction (working the pulley back and forth) with the machine filled with hot water to get the gears to let go, once you get it moving it should be fine. Be sure the machine is unplugged before you do that. You could also take the front panel off and apply some heat under the transmission (like with a few carefully placed 200 watt light bulbs) for several hours. If all else fails you'll have to take the transmission apart. Edit: I just noticed you said it did agitate for the first try, maybe try the hot water trick first and see if you can turn the pulley in the agitation direction. | ||
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Post# 1044663 , Reply# 25 9/12/2019 at 20:27 (1,686 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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I was wondering... | ||
| Post# 1044708 , Reply# 26 9/13/2019 at 05:08 (1,686 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge
Thank you unimatic 1140!! I have it in my three car garage.. I’d have to move it to the basement in my house to fill it with hot water. I’m not super mechanicly inclined but I will get this problem solved. Some one in this area has to know something. I’ve been filling it with a hose and running it. Could it be anything else ? Why the first wash went fine ? Also blowing a circuit breaker .. burnt wire smell ?
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| Post# 1044709 , Reply# 27 9/13/2019 at 05:11 (1,686 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge | ||
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Post# 1044712 , Reply# 28 9/13/2019 at 05:33 (1,686 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Hot Burning smell Hi Paul, Unplug it take the front off [ two screws at the bottom front and pop the top at the front and lift the front panel off the studs ] then tip the washer on its back remove the belt and see if the motor and pump turn easily in both directions.
Then turn the main drive pulley in one direction it should cause the agitator to move, the other direction it should turn smoothly but nothing will happen till you release the brake by closing the brake soloinoid with your other hand while turning the main drive pulley, now the tub should turn.
When you tested the machine with water did it leak at all ? Are there signs that the washer has leaked from the area above the transmission as evidenced by a possible rusty stain on the inside of the cabinet and front panel ?
If everything checks out mechanically it could have an electrical problem, Norge built washers with the 3/4 HP motor were famous for burned timer contacts etc, also durning look at and smell the motor for burning windings.
John L.
PS, Thanks Bob and Greg for pointing out that this was not quite a TOL model, in this area we just never saw any Norge washers this fancy, but I knew that they certainly never built a 3 speed 20 pound machine. | ||
| Post# 1044717 , Reply# 29 9/13/2019 at 06:39 (1,686 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge
Gentlemen thank you soooo much I’m going to try these ideas out ! I’m going to get this Norge to work. You are all great 👍
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Post# 1044720 , Reply# 30 9/13/2019 at 07:14 (1,686 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Post# 1044809 , Reply# 31 9/13/2019 at 19:34 (1,685 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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| Post# 1045014 , Reply# 32 9/15/2019 at 17:57 (1,683 days old) by jamman_98 (Columbia, SC) | ||
Okay... | ||
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Post# 1045053 , Reply# 33 9/16/2019 at 04:20 (1,683 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney) |
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Damn, that is one cute hat...<3 Great washer BTW, hope you can fix it. You look like somebody who can fix anything ;o) | ||
| Post# 1045073 , Reply# 34 9/16/2019 at 09:36 (1,683 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge
Ha ha thanks guys for the compliments.. I have some bad news I called a guy in Niagara Falls who is familiar with fixing Norge washing machines and he was very discouraged what I told him about the machine he thinks it is a transmission anybody on this site know anyone in the Buffalo area that could fix this washer because this repair man is “”TRYING”” to talk me into throwing the washer out.. I have not had time to tinker around with it yet.. The repairman also said that Norge was not a good dependable machine when he used to repair them years ago ? Lost and helpless!
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| Post# 1045089 , Reply# 35 9/16/2019 at 11:41 (1,683 days old) by jamman_98 (Columbia, SC) | ||
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Hey
Don't let the guy tell you it can't be fixed. Where there's a will there's a way. There a lot of people on here that have lots of experience fixing washing machines. If you willing to do the work on it yourself, you'll succeed. Just remember to take it slow in taking it apart. Take lots of pics of each step you do. Post them here and I am sure we all can help you. Have faith.
Joe aka jamman_98 | ||
| Post# 1045096 , Reply# 36 9/16/2019 at 12:25 (1,683 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge | ||
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Post# 1045103 , Reply# 37 9/16/2019 at 12:52 (1,683 days old) by Washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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Joe is Right...
Please have faith in us on this site — I have had much help and support from folks on here when tackling a repair job. Just remember like Joe says, take photos and notes as you do the work. It pays off. It’s all very logical and methodical...just follow the path and remember that.
Thanks and I am excited about this restoration! Best, Todd | ||
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Post# 1045104 , Reply# 38 9/16/2019 at 12:58 (1,683 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 1045163 , Reply# 39 9/17/2019 at 10:26 (1,682 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge
A gentleman is coming over to the house this weekend to take a look at the machine he said he has some parts and he wants to fix this machine ...he said he can fix anything and he fixes washer and dryer so he is going to do this!! I’m going to learn as well .. I will keep everyone posted thank you all for the encouragement I’m not getting rid of this I’ve been wanting this washer since I was eight years old.
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Post# 1045167 , Reply# 40 9/17/2019 at 10:39 (1,682 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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| Post# 1045168 , Reply# 41 9/17/2019 at 10:44 (1,682 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge
P.S. he thinks it the transmission there’s a lot of rust I popped off the front
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Post# 1045174 , Reply# 42 9/17/2019 at 11:58 (1,682 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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A Real Norge Washer June 1975 | ||
| Post# 1045417 , Reply# 43 9/19/2019 at 10:31 (1,680 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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Just wait till You use it It will wash RINGS around anything you have ever seen. | ||
| Post# 1045588 , Reply# 44 9/21/2019 at 20:28 (1,677 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge
So I met a great guy named Dave he’s been fixing washers for over 30 years he said he’s worked on Norge washers before . we took the Norge apart.. he trouble shooted took off the belt removed the agitator... we did everything... the pully goes in one direction tight then the other direction loose for agitate he says it’s not the motor or transmission?? He’s determined to get this Norge running he’s coming back tomorrow my number is 716-804- 2336 if someone wants to call lol 😆 I’m going to wash in this Norge this week!!
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Post# 1045590 , Reply# 45 9/21/2019 at 21:39 (1,677 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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Post# 1045609 , Reply# 46 9/22/2019 at 06:37 (1,677 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Paul
very happy to see a member find their dream machine. Once you get it up and running your’e gonna love it even more. That machine looks to me to be in great shape for the age not much rust at all, its a keeper. Sounds like you found the right guy to help get back in shape. Like Norgeway says they are great cleaners. Would love to see your collection next time I’m driving through Buffalo!!
Keep posting your progress we will be watching with interest Jetcone | ||
| Post# 1045627 , Reply# 47 9/22/2019 at 09:51 (1,677 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge | ||
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Post# 1045766 , Reply# 48 9/23/2019 at 14:10 (1,676 days old) by JohnBee (USA, NY) |
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I'm a bit confused | ||
| Post# 1045774 , Reply# 49 9/23/2019 at 15:21 (1,675 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge | ||
| Post# 1045928 , Reply# 50 9/25/2019 at 12:03 (1,674 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge | ||
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Post# 1045929 , Reply# 51 9/25/2019 at 12:06 (1,674 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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| Post# 1045932 , Reply# 52 9/25/2019 at 12:10 (1,674 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge | ||
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Post# 1045964 , Reply# 53 9/25/2019 at 19:04 (1,673 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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That machine is cleaning up nicely. The enamel of the inner tub looks very nice. Console does not exhibit the wear of a high mileage machine, either. I hope you will be able to clean up the base and inner cabinet. It looks like you found a real gem. Best wishes! | ||
| Post# 1045993 , Reply# 54 9/26/2019 at 04:20 (1,673 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge | ||
| Post# 1047256 , Reply# 55 10/9/2019 at 11:16 (1,660 days old) by PaulWash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a NORGE
Hi everyone. The gentleman that came to fix the Norge washer is 99% that it is the transmission on the washer that needs to be fixed due to sitting for so long and only wanting to turn in one direction. He is in Buffalo and deals with hundreds of washers a week. He called his pick up guy and told him to keep an eye out for a Norge Washer of course he already threw one away this morning. SO I am in great need of a transmission for this "Particular NORGE washer" Is there any great guy out there that wants to be a transmission donor? Let me know I can pay and pay for it and the shipping. Let me know please then I can wash in the Norge soon. Thank you all. :-))
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Post# 1047259 , Reply# 56 10/9/2019 at 12:11 (1,660 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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| Post# 1047284 , Reply# 57 10/9/2019 at 15:22 (1,659 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge
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Post# 1047295 , Reply# 58 10/9/2019 at 17:00 (1,659 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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| Post# 1047297 , Reply# 59 10/9/2019 at 17:44 (1,659 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge | ||
| Post# 1047309 , Reply# 60 10/9/2019 at 19:31 (1,659 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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| Post# 1047341 , Reply# 61 10/10/2019 at 03:26 (1,659 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
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I found a Norge | ||
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Post# 1047390 , Reply# 62 10/10/2019 at 18:39 (1,658 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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| Post# 1047401 , Reply# 63 10/10/2019 at 20:33 (1,658 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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Hi Kenny! Yes, the 1958 Norge Timeline has been finished for several years. My painter friend still has the cabinet and works on it when he has time. So the machine is still not in use. It was in very poor condition, as you can recall. We pulled it out of four or five inches of dirt. I retired a few years ago, so if you are ever in Fort Wayne, please give me a call.
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| Post# 1047403 , Reply# 64 10/10/2019 at 20:38 (1,658 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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