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The Tappan dishwasher made it to the museum
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Post# 1045256   9/18/2019 at 07:10 (1,675 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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A few pictures haven’t had time to hook it up and test it yet looks to be in good functional condition more to come

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Post# 1045258 , Reply# 1   9/18/2019 at 07:22 (1,675 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Impeller of sorts....

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I'm not sure what you call the round drum that slings the water.  On the pictures it looks smooth.  If it is, how does that really sling any water?  Or are there some fins or something that aren't showing in the picture?

 

Can't wait to see/hear how it runs.

 


Post# 1045259 , Reply# 2   9/18/2019 at 07:24 (1,675 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Thanks for the close-up

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How interesting.  Never saw one in person, I was imagining vanes on the outside of the drum to lift and throw the water.


Post# 1045260 , Reply# 3   9/18/2019 at 07:34 (1,675 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Wow! Very cool John. So glad you were able to save it!!

Post# 1045261 , Reply# 4   9/18/2019 at 07:41 (1,675 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Yes, that big black pipe is interesting in the sense of how it distributes the water, but surely wasn't an everlasting design to universally go in any other makes, nor did that one, Tappan, even keep it in its own use for very long...



-- Dave


Post# 1045268 , Reply# 5   9/18/2019 at 08:32 (1,675 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Can't wait to hear it again. Just as I remember it all was.p

Post# 1045269 , Reply# 6   9/18/2019 at 08:37 (1,675 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Crazy lower racking due to the wash mechanism. Glad one of these rarities is in the museum! Thanks for the photos, John, and keep us updated.

Don't recall that anyone in my orbit had one of these Tappans.


Post# 1045271 , Reply# 7   9/18/2019 at 09:15 (1,675 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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A machine crying out to wash a GoPro and a flashlight!

If the lens of the camera isn't too dirty it may even come clean ;)


Post# 1045280 , Reply# 8   9/18/2019 at 10:42 (1,675 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

This is such a weird design....Looks complicated to load.

Would love to see it in action. A Go Pro movie would be amazing.


Post# 1045283 , Reply# 9   9/18/2019 at 11:14 (1,675 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Such a cool, yet odd design.

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Right! The upper part of the rack is SO weird! I’m guessing the open space between the upper “racks” is where dinner plates would go??? The rack design obviously limits putting in large items in to be washed.

I agree, this is screaming for not only a GoPro / flashlight inside video demo, but photos of how you would actually load dishes in it!

Very happy you were able to save this very unique dishwasher and install it in your museum!

Kevin


Post# 1045284 , Reply# 10   9/18/2019 at 11:18 (1,675 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Tappan dishwasher

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The big bake a light drum is very smooth, it probably would’ve been much more effective if it had bumps and ridges or something on it but I think they were worried about a dish or something coming in contact with it it is spinning at 1725 rpm’s so it does pick up a fair amount of water even without fins.

It’s carefully balance the motor is mounted inside the back half of the drum.

John


Post# 1045292 , Reply# 11   9/18/2019 at 13:04 (1,675 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

This is how it's supposed to be loaded.

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Post# 1045303 , Reply# 12   9/18/2019 at 15:08 (1,675 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York)        
from an owners manual

These pages show the two different rack configurations available. This dishwasher appears to have the same rack as the series 3 and 2 models. My manual has a date of 10/62 inside, so I imagine its for the 1963 models.

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Post# 1045305 , Reply# 13   9/18/2019 at 15:29 (1,675 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Wow! Thanks for those manual pages, Steve! This is really reminding me of the James for some reason!!

Post# 1045309 , Reply# 14   9/18/2019 at 15:51 (1,675 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Tappan!

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This is really great that the DW made it over to the museum! Family friends of ours had the more TOL model with the full upper rack! It was a quiet machine for its time. I remember it was installed in 1963 when they remodeled the kitchen with a tappan gas wall oven and cooktop!
Steve thanks for posting part of the manual can you post the rest of it?
John Best of Luck with the DW!


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Post# 1045313 , Reply# 15   9/18/2019 at 17:00 (1,675 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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As long as you don’t use 3-to-4 quart saucepans, Dutch ovens, stock pots or very large mixing bowls in your cooking, the Tappan fills the bill, LOL. The only pots/pans they show in the racking illustrations are frying pans.



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Post# 1045317 , Reply# 16   9/18/2019 at 17:11 (1,675 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Looks like band leader Paul Whiteman demonstrating that DW.....


Post# 1045325 , Reply# 17   9/18/2019 at 18:43 (1,675 days old) by appnut (TX)        
"Forced Air Drying"

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The cylinder ran at the 1725 rpm during the dry cycle for "forced air drying".  


Post# 1045333 , Reply# 18   9/18/2019 at 19:45 (1,675 days old) by rpms (ontario canada)        

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Can you show a load of dirty dishes before and after?

Post# 1045335 , Reply# 19   9/18/2019 at 19:48 (1,675 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York)        
Owner's Manual

Hope this is satisfactory. Robert, feel free to delete the previous pics in reply #11 as they are included here

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Post# 1045349 , Reply# 20   9/18/2019 at 20:53 (1,675 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Steve, thank you for posting the manual.  "Fascinating".  


Post# 1045351 , Reply# 21   9/18/2019 at 20:58 (1,675 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Tappan!

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Steve thanks for posting the manual!

Post# 1045393 , Reply# 22   9/19/2019 at 07:14 (1,674 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
The Tappan Dishwasher

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A big thank-you Steve for posting the Manuel for these unusual DWs

 

At some point soon we will hook this DW up and actually wash some dirty dishes in it, I expect to be very disappointed.

 

30 years ago my Brother and I removed an unused one of these DWs from a house in Bethesda Md. I though it was so cool that we hooked it up and tried it out as I had just purchased a house in W. Va. and though in would be a perfect DW for the formal dinning are because it was quiet and would only be used for dishes.

 

Well the cleaning results were so terrible that I scrapped the DW, at the time I did not know that I would start collecting unusual DWs, Now I have just paid over $400 for the same thing, LOL

 

John L.


Post# 1045397 , Reply# 23   9/19/2019 at 07:39 (1,674 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Wow! Thanks for posting the whole manual, Steve! I had no idea that liquid detergent for a dishwasher was available back then. I wonder who made "Clean" and "Bright"??

Now this really has whet my appetite. Next time one of these surfaces.... look out...LOL




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Post# 1045401 , Reply# 24   9/19/2019 at 08:19 (1,674 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Ok - this is awesome. Thank you John for saving this Rube Goldberg of a dishwasher.

In the publicity shot, it looks like there is a Tappan Microwave oven next to the dishwasher, also with its door open.

Ben


Post# 1045405 , Reply# 25   9/19/2019 at 08:54 (1,674 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        
Can you show a load of dirty dishes before and after?

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I loved the wording of this comment, it implies that the dishes will be dirty both before and after ;)

Post# 1045410 , Reply# 26   9/19/2019 at 09:27 (1,674 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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And judging by comments that have been made about this machine in the past--including your brother John's assessment from his experience--I was going to be a smart aleck and say, "You might not notice a huge difference."

Post# 1045411 , Reply# 27   9/19/2019 at 10:16 (1,674 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Let's just say I consider this to be the worst dishwasher I've come across all my life. Worst than spintube, youngstown jet tower,or 1 arm KA. I was around this from age 9 to 12 at least.



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Post# 1045412 , Reply# 28   9/19/2019 at 10:19 (1,674 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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We could start a thread: "you know the Tappan dishwasher is bad when..."



Post# 1045413 , Reply# 29   9/19/2019 at 10:28 (1,674 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Basically This was an experiment

That didn't work, The Spin Tube worked just not great on anything but dishes loaded very carefully, The IDEA behind this was good ,but seems to me a normal impeller dishwasher such as a Hotpoint, GE or Westinghouse would outwash it 10 to one, My opinion is still NOTHING will outwash the early Kitchen Aids,

Post# 1045444 , Reply# 30   9/19/2019 at 19:10 (1,674 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        

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How long did Tappan sell this machine?  Did they then go to D and M machines later on?


Post# 1045450 , Reply# 31   9/19/2019 at 20:23 (1,674 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I would say until 1963 or 1964.  then came Tappan's Revers-a-Jet dishwasher was the successor.  .  


Post# 1045610 , Reply# 32   9/22/2019 at 06:48 (1,671 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Wow that looks like the weirdest system ever

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It looks as bad as Unimatic1140’s “attempt-a-wash” spin tube Frigidaire with Oragami Packing instructions LOLOL! Can’t wait to see the poor results! Lets start drying some egg on a dish! Nice to have it in the collection though, a real dinosaur.

Post# 1047655 , Reply# 33   10/13/2019 at 23:55 (1,650 days old) by clcs (Australia)        
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Hello all, Ive posted on another thread but havent had much luck in getting a reply... I have the attached Dishmaster machine at home. Im not sure on its history but is anyone able to shed some light? Im not really interested in selling (unless it can fund my retirement) as it makes a good microwave holder and has basically had the kitchen built around it as it is so heavy.


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