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Thread Number: 80723
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Westinghouse washing machine 1940’s??? |
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Post# 1047106 , Reply# 1 10/7/2019 at 21:19 (1,655 days old) by combo52  (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Early Westinghouse Wringer Washer | ||
| Post# 1047107 , Reply# 2 10/7/2019 at 21:35 (1,655 days old) by SpiderLovesBeer (California ) | ||
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Thanks John. I’m not going to be able to sleep tonight..... I wish I knew the model or at least year so I can start researching. What do you think??? 40’s ??? 50’s ???? | ||
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Post# 1047109 , Reply# 3 10/7/2019 at 21:43 (1,655 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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Post# 1047112 , Reply# 4 10/7/2019 at 23:24 (1,655 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 1047113 , Reply# 5 10/7/2019 at 23:35 (1,655 days old) by SpiderLovesBeer (California ) | ||
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No way????? Sweet. Is this one ok for a beginner to work on?? I don’t want to ruin a good one. | ||
| Post# 1047118 , Reply# 6 10/8/2019 at 02:56 (1,655 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Post# 1047121 , Reply# 7 10/8/2019 at 05:32 (1,654 days old) by mopar65 (Almont MI) |
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Westy
Congrats Jason on the Westy and getting and staying sober. Take your tame and document the washer as you start working on it.
Anthony This post was last edited 10/08/2019 at 10:52 | ||
| Post# 1047125 , Reply# 8 10/8/2019 at 06:44 (1,654 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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I agree with Robert At LEAST 1930s I knew a older lady in my hometown who had a very early 30s Westinghouse twin tub spinner washer that was the same color and same logo. | ||
| Post# 1047139 , Reply# 9 10/8/2019 at 10:00 (1,654 days old) by SpiderLovesBeer (California ) | ||
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Thanx Fellas. I’ll be on road here in an hour or so to pick her up. I’ll send more pictures. Let me know if there’s a specific part I should take a picture of. I know this will be a long process but I’m so Happy I found you guys. Thanx in advance for all the questions I’ll be asking. | ||
| Post# 1047168 , Reply# 11 10/8/2019 at 14:39 (1,654 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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A suggestion-- and ONLY a suggestion: Take a LOT of pictures. Without other documentation like instructions or a parts list, clear photographs will save headaches and other grief. Welcome! Lawrence/Maytagbear (We absolutely insist on enjoying life.) | ||
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Post# 1047170 , Reply# 12 10/8/2019 at 15:27 (1,654 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 1047171 , Reply# 13 10/8/2019 at 15:30 (1,654 days old) by jeb (Mansfield Ohiio) | ||
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I had one similar to this but it was round. The agitator has holes in the fins, which allows water through with each stroke but not clothes. Very aggressive on the cloth. Don't let thinks wash too long | ||
| Post# 1047174 , Reply# 14 10/8/2019 at 16:15 (1,654 days old) by SpiderLovesBeer (California ) | ||
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Ok thank you guys. I’ll dig deeper when I get Home and do as y’all say. Lots of Pictures and hot water in the pump if it has one. | ||
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Post# 1047212 , Reply# 15 10/8/2019 at 21:58 (1,654 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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This is one machine I wouldn't mind seeing in person sometime if you're in a part of CA near me or that I frequent.
I agree about making sure everything moves manually before you hook it up to 120 volts. Expect leaks, but sometimes just like with dishwashers that have sat for long periods, a tub full of super hot water can soften up rubber seals. It's a long shot with seals from the 1930s, but you never know. | ||
| Post# 1047235 , Reply# 17 10/9/2019 at 09:23 (1,653 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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That type Pushbutton switch was widely used in houses back in the 20s and 30s . | ||
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Post# 1047261 , Reply# 18 10/9/2019 at 12:18 (1,653 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa) |
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 Yep, a very common older switch type for house lighting and other circuits. They fell out of favor when toggle switches took over, but still remained in production for quite some time after. It's hard to make out, but in photo #3, on the upper mounting tab, is that an "H&H" stamping? If so, your switch was made by the Hart & Hegeman company, who merged with Arrow in the late 1920s. They have since been bought by Cooper, who was somewhat recently acquired by Eaton, where the "Arrow-Hart" brand name lives on. Shouldn't be hard at all to find a replacement, although based on your description, I wouldn't necessarily believe that the switch is what is wrong here... | ||
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Post# 1047268 , Reply# 19 10/9/2019 at 13:15 (1,653 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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| Post# 1047303 , Reply# 21 10/9/2019 at 19:18 (1,653 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada) | ||
Hey Jason ... well this posting has certainly caught my attention! I'm a huge fan of wringer washers! Maytags from the 1930s are my specialty, but this Westinghouse looks intriguing!
I've restored two direct-drive wringer washers - a 1948 Kenmore, and a 1940s Canadian machine.. In both cases, there was a rubber boot clamped onto the shaft of the motor connecting it to the drive shaft (worm screw) to the power unit (AKA transmission.) I can't tell from the pics if yours has a similar rubber "boot", but if so, it should come off by loosening the screw clamps. Looks like the machine is missing the drain hose, but does have a pump. Fabricating a drain hose usually isn't too big a deal. For my Maytags, I use the same hose as used for portable fuel tanks, sourced at a hose/fastener supply store. Looking forward to hearing/seeing your ongoing progress! | ||
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Post# 1047307 , Reply# 22 10/9/2019 at 19:25 (1,653 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA) |
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DRIVE PULLEY'S LIKE A fR IGIDARE | ||
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Post# 1047320 , Reply# 24 10/9/2019 at 21:37 (1,653 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1047324 , Reply# 25 10/9/2019 at 22:10 (1,653 days old) by SpiderLovesBeer (California ) | ||
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I’m not sure if I did it right. I need to work on my video editing CLICK HERE TO GO TO SpiderLovesBeer's LINK | ||
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Post# 1047327 , Reply# 26 10/9/2019 at 22:48 (1,653 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 1047350 , Reply# 28 10/10/2019 at 09:10 (1,652 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Don't mention it.
That Big 3 washer looks quite a restauration project. Would you want to use it or use it as a display object? There are several Big 3 washers Lee Maxwell's washing machine museum. oldewash.com... These two look a lot like the one that is for sale. | ||
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Post# 1047355 , Reply# 29 10/10/2019 at 10:34 (1,652 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa) |
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| Post# 1047361 , Reply# 30 10/10/2019 at 12:05 (1,652 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada) | ||
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Tension adjustment -
Jason, the gizmo on top would typically be the tension release bar, with the pressure applied through the lever/handle on the side. Does it increase the pressure when you rotate that handle on the side?
I'll be interested in hearing where the on/off control is located for the wringer. Also, would like to see the pump in operation, and the new hose. Looks like a really neat machine! | ||
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Post# 1047363 , Reply# 31 10/10/2019 at 12:52 (1,652 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Wringer Washers
Fabulous find Jason, wringer washers where the backbone of UK laundry for a very long time over yourselves and other countries...
Look forward to see it restored and back to working order. Heres one of our a recent finds from 1937, similar layout , Made by Servis , the model K
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Post# 1047368 , Reply# 32 10/10/2019 at 14:24 (1,652 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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Jason, if you only paid $20 for the Westinghouse, that is simply incredible! That the seller only wants $60 for the Big 3 is equally unheard-of. It's also amazing that the Westinghouse came back to life so easily without any serious leaks!
I can see how it would be nice to restore the lid with new paint that matches the original. I wouldn't do much to the rest of the machine. I use Meguiar's car cleaner/wax on enameled paint with good results. Test it on an inconspicuous area first. | ||
| Post# 1047371 , Reply# 33 10/10/2019 at 14:31 (1,652 days old) by jeb (Mansfield Ohiio) | ||
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big three I have one hooked up to a gasoline engine (big 3- could be powered by 1.hand,2.gas, 3.electric). The wash action is not that great(better than scrubbing by hand) and I wouldn't want to do my good clothes in zinc lined copper tub. | ||
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Post# 1047383 , Reply# 34 10/10/2019 at 16:45 (1,652 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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Pricing
Can vary greatly for any machine 20 years old or more. Some folks just want it out of their basement, others want to get rich. The more you collect, you'll find absolute steals, then you'll find one that you want REALLY REALLY BAD, but has a ridiculous sticker price. Be prepared to be happily and sadly surprised at different times.
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Post# 1047411 , Reply# 36 10/10/2019 at 21:17 (1,652 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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"I think I just got thrown into the Wringer" More like sucked into the vortex!
Next thing you know, you're going to be on the hunt for a '30s refrigerator like those that David (aka "turbokinetic") has posted about in intricate detail here.
My sister lives in L.A. One of these times I go to visit her I may hit you up ahead of time. CLICK HERE TO GO TO RP2813's LINK | ||
| Post# 1047419 , Reply# 37 10/11/2019 at 00:06 (1,652 days old) by SpiderLovesBeer (California ) | ||
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I’m already there. I’m going to go check this one out tomorrow...
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Post# 1047420 , Reply# 38 10/11/2019 at 00:47 (1,652 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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| Post# 1047450 , Reply# 39 10/11/2019 at 12:01 (1,651 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada) | ||
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The new drain hose ...
Hey Jason ... I can't quite understand the hose arrangement. It looks like it comes up through the inside and then I see a curved nozzle going into the tub. Can you show pics of that with an explanation please?
Looks like you've got a keeper there! I'm a little envious! It appears from the video that it has good wash action (turnover, as we call it.) Regarding the wringer - what is the little lever that is located down close to the bottom roller? -Brad | ||
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Post# 1047467 , Reply# 41 10/11/2019 at 15:08 (1,651 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa) |
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| Post# 1047470 , Reply# 42 10/11/2019 at 15:36 (1,651 days old) by SpiderLovesBeer (California ) | ||
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I’m not going to do anything else to the body. Just a little warm water and a sponge bath.. I sent some pictures to the George Westinghouse museum and they don’t know anything about this Wringer. What the heck is going on here???? I’ve been digging for a few days now and I can’t find anything. | ||
| Post# 1047697 , Reply# 43 10/14/2019 at 14:25 (1,648 days old) by golittlesport (California) | ||
beautiful machine!
That is one of the most beautiful wringer washers I have ever seen! True 30/40's deco style. How fortunate that it is in such good condition was relatively easy to get running again.
I'm not far from you, in Orange County, but I grew up on the east coast with many relatives in Canada, so we visited there often. Westinghouse wringers seemed very common up there. I had several Canadian family members who had Westy wringers. But I don't recall ever seeing one in the states. I'm thinking Westinghouse may have focused on their automatic Laundromats in the states and discontinued wringer production here after WWII. Very interesting that you found one so old and in such great shape, and in So Cal no less! Congrats! | ||
| Post# 1047722 , Reply# 45 10/14/2019 at 20:17 (1,648 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada) | ||
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Tension adjustment...
Hey there, Jason,
Rich (golittlesport) makes a good point - I'm originally from southern Alberta (Canada) and I remember my grandparents had discarded their old gasoline-driven Westinghouse wringer from the 1940s. It sat in the granary and my grandfather used it to hold feed for the few cows that he owned. In retrospect, if I had been older, I would have probably restored it! Unlike yours, it was a round enamel tub on long legs. Could you please show us how the tension adjustment works on that wringer? I noticed in the video that the side mechanism swivels around completely, rather than clamping and then springing open like other wringers. Thanks! | ||
| Post# 1047779 , Reply# 47 10/15/2019 at 14:27 (1,647 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada) | ||
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Pre-set tension...
I see now. It appears to be similar to a Maytag in that it has pre-set tension.
You may have seen on other wringer types (such as that manufactured by Lovell for several different washer manufacturers) that the side lever is a clamp and on the top is a screw that adjusts the tension. How well does it squeeze the clothes? When you have time, perhaps you can upload a shot of it wringing! | ||
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Post# 1047983 , Reply# 50 10/17/2019 at 21:07 (1,645 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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| Post# 1047988 , Reply# 51 10/17/2019 at 23:15 (1,645 days old) by SpiderLovesBeer (California ) | ||
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Thanks Eddie. I found one from the 30’s but the guys want $135 plus $50 shipping. That’s a little to rich for my blood. Im not into the new stuff | ||
| Post# 1048029 , Reply# 52 10/18/2019 at 11:21 (1,644 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada) | ||
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Thanks for sharing all this! | ||
| Post# 1048034 , Reply# 53 10/18/2019 at 13:15 (1,644 days old) by SpiderLovesBeer (California ) | ||
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Thanx Brad. I enjoy you’re videos too. I want to find a beat up one so I can shoot some paint on Her. I’m having so much fun washing clothes now. It’s time consuming but fun. | ||
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Post# 1048041 , Reply# 54 10/18/2019 at 16:38 (1,644 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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I’m having so much fun washing clothes now.
It’s time consuming but fun.
Yes, Jason it is fun isn’t it? I’ve always thought that doing the laundry in a wringer washer is zen like, kind of meditative. I don’t know how much you know about the procedure, since you are too young to remember when this is the way many people did their laundry. Actually, it can be much faster doing your weekly laundry this way, provided you are aware of the time honored procedure of yore. If you do it the way I’m going to outline, you can have your entire weeks laundry done in about 60 mins. First, get a tub that you can fill with rinse water, I used to use a ball and claw foot bathtub for rinsing, but any large tub will work. Next sort your laundry into 1. whites, 2. sheets 3. light colors/towels 4. dark colors, like levis, ect. Now fill your washer to the highest level with the hottest water your hands can stand, add the detergent and begin with the whites, wash for about 5-10 mins. wring them into your rinse water, now add load number 2 ( add additional water to bring the level up to full and more detergent if it seems necessary) and wash for another 5-10 mins, while this load is washing wring out the whites from the rinse water. Repeat this process until all the wash is done. Now either hang them up to dry or use your dryer. Of course, drain and rinse out your washer. Don’t worry about reusing the wash water. People did this for centuries and always managed to have clean clothes. Now continue to have fun with your new machine. I live in a two story townhouse with no room for a proper tub for rinsing or an area large enough for using a wringer washer. If I had the room, this would be they way I would be doing our laundry and I’d have a wringer washer for sure. HTH Eddie This post was last edited 10/18/2019 at 16:55 | ||
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Post# 1048055 , Reply# 56 10/18/2019 at 19:15 (1,644 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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Back when I was a kid, my job was to catch the rinse tub clothes thru the wringer while the next load was washing in our 1948 Kenmore. The 48 Kenmore still wrings into a rinse tub but I still have to catch the clothes coming back thru. I can get 2 loads on the line in less than an hour. It is therapeutic with the hmmm of the agitation.
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