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Post# 1047243   10/9/2019 at 09:47 (1,631 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        

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My Maytag A806 hasn't been feeling well since it was installed in the new laundry room. It had served as our only machine when we moved into the house, and did well for several months but was swapped out for the KitchenAid when that machine came home.

The machine has been stalling while spinning and draining. Replacing the belts helped for a bit, but the motor would still stall and the machine was smelling hot. Digging through my small stash, I found that I have a replacement motor!


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Post# 1047245 , Reply# 1   10/9/2019 at 09:49 (1,631 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        
Yikes!

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lifting the machine and popping the belts, I was able to get the hex set screw out of the pulley. After a half hour of wiggling, lots of PB Blaster, and some consternation, the pully decided it had enough fun at my expense and fell off in my hand. More liquid persuasion on the mount bolts and the motor was out.

Yikes.


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Post# 1047248 , Reply# 2   10/9/2019 at 09:53 (1,631 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        
So much for a quick swap...

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I'd hoped I was going to get away with cleaning and removing surface rust form the motor glide, but it looks like the part is very far gone. Also need to find the wiring clip, which has disintegrated, and it looks like I need a damper pad job as well.

On the upside, I was able to clean out a ton of junk from inside the cabinet, and I found the missing lid-to-cabinet bolt from the left side, though not the speed clip. Also found a sheared off screw and a socket!


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Post# 1047260 , Reply# 3   10/9/2019 at 12:15 (1,631 days old) by bendixmark (Winchester Mass)        
Motor

I find those round motors rarely fail.When they stall it is usually because the belts are too tight when it goes into a spin or there is not enough voltage to make the machine spin.If the carriage were stuck you could have that problem.You need 110 volts for that machine to spin.It could need a start capacitor.

Post# 1047262 , Reply# 4   10/9/2019 at 12:22 (1,631 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
I hope .....

You find and fix the leak that caused all the corrosion in the first place.

Post# 1047266 , Reply# 5   10/9/2019 at 13:09 (1,631 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        
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I'm having a similar problem with my A712 lately, but I don't smell anything.  I thought it was more about suds lock, but now I'm not so sure.  It seems to happen with heavier loads like towels.

 

Should I maybe loosen the belts a little?


Post# 1047299 , Reply# 6   10/9/2019 at 18:49 (1,631 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        

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Mark, I am wondering if the issue is because of the corrosion. Bud, I haven't found any leaks... I believe it was fixed before my ownership. Ralph, I'm not sure how one would loosen the belts.

Post# 1047302 , Reply# 7   10/9/2019 at 19:01 (1,631 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        
Belts

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It's my understanding that only the pump belt can be adjusted, but since the pump is part of the spin process, it might be worth a little tweaking.  I'm pretty sure that when I replaced the pump a while back, I pinched it in the middle to get the correct clearance, but I could have opted for a little tighter instead of looser.


Post# 1047413 , Reply# 8   10/10/2019 at 21:44 (1,630 days old) by bendixmark (Winchester Mass)        
Pump

If the pump belt is too tight you will have this problem.Is the washer plugged into an extension cord?That can cause a voltage drop.Put the washer in spin and plug an ohmmeter into the outlet and see if the voltage goes well below 110v.I would also try a start capacitor on the motor.

Post# 1047414 , Reply# 9   10/10/2019 at 21:49 (1,630 days old) by bendixmark (Winchester Mass)        
Sliding Motor Base

Your sliding motor base looks terrible.You need to disassemble it,sand the track and replace the rollers and springs and then grease the track with the maytag poly lube.The rust is from dampness.

Post# 1047418 , Reply# 10   10/10/2019 at 23:22 (1,630 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
If The Pump Belt Is Too Tight

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The motor will start easily because an overly tight pump belt takes tension OFF the main belt, then you have too much slippage of the main drive belt during agitation and spinning. [ We often have to slightly over tighten the pump belt on these MTs so the motor WILL start ]

 

The best of these MT two belt helical drive washers were the first ones [ 1956-59 ] with the motor mounted on a pivot and the last ones with the carriage springs mounted on one side [ 1998-2006 ]

 

All the machines in-between could be problematic about starting in spin or agitating properly with full loads.

 

I do agree that a start capacitor is a good addition to any MT washer, MT was too cheap to include them on all but a few TOL models.

 

John L.


Post# 1047421 , Reply# 11   10/11/2019 at 01:04 (1,630 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        
Thanks for the advice . . .

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. . . on the slowing spin situation.

 

I had an electrician install the outlet for my A712 (because the Neptune gas dryer took the second spot on the outlet for that stacking set), but it's definitely possible that having it running at the same time as the Neptune creates issues.  There is no extension cord, but the machines are on the same circuit.  

 

I'll check it again with another load of towels when the Neptune isn't operating simultaneously.   A Green Acres system might be in order.


Post# 1047422 , Reply# 12   10/11/2019 at 02:35 (1,630 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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"A Green Acres system might be in order."

You'll need a New Electrisicle Panel.


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Post# 1047424 , Reply# 13   10/11/2019 at 05:35 (1,630 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
Green Acres Eletricenter & Generator Usage:

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Amazing how each number correcsponds w/ the amount of electricity each applaince uses, as in Small Appliances, 1; Refrigerator, 5; Stove, 7; Washer, 4; Dryer, 6 etc.



-- Dave


Post# 1047469 , Reply# 14   10/11/2019 at 15:28 (1,629 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa)        

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>> I'd hoped I was going to get away with cleaning and removing surface rust form
>> the motor glide, but it looks like the part is very far gone.


I see the surface rust, but are you sure its too far gone?

The first photo in your third post shows the carriage still attached to the motor, and the spring(s) pulling the carriage to the side.. but one of the rollers is sitting loose in the end of the track, instead of being on its axle further down. Perhaps the plastic roller had worn enough to fall off the shaft, and the carriage had been binding (metal-on-metal) as a result?


Also on the motor, have you done any diagnosis on the old motor now that the belts are removed?
Does the old motor spin freely, or feel stiff when turning by hand?

Trouble starting on spin could also be the result of an article of clothing being stuck between the inner and outer tubs. That's what happened to my A209 for the prior owners, and it was a comparatively simple fix to get it running smoothly again.
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Post# 1047484 , Reply# 15   10/11/2019 at 19:27 (1,629 days old) by bendixmark (Winchester Mass)        
Pump Belt Too Tight

I did a call recently where both belts were way too tight and the machine motor was burning and tripping the breaker and it was because the motor base was all messed up.After fixing that it worked fine.My boss sent me there with a motor.

Post# 1047492 , Reply# 16   10/11/2019 at 20:46 (1,629 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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I have a few spare motor glides that you’re welcome to. Shoot me a PM.

Ben


Post# 1047940 , Reply# 17   10/17/2019 at 12:26 (1,623 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        

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I was having a hard time finding a new motor mount, so I'm likely to try some of that evaporust stuff and see if I can save it.

The motor turns but seems to have a friction spot on the arc where it grind a bit. I've not done any electrical work on the machine yet. The machine is at the end is on the end of a 20 amp circuit, so it should be OK, but its worth checking. I don't think the belts were overly tight, but i suppose the issue could be that the motor glide is so crusty that its not adjusting tension like it should be.

The basement the machine is in now, and storage and laundry room it has been in since my ownership have been bone dry, so the dampness is from its first owner.



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