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Thread Number: 80924
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
HI all Freddy is back! (Collection updating) |
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| Post# 1049169 10/28/2019 at 16:21 (1,635 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1049171 , Reply# 1 10/28/2019 at 16:38 (1,635 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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New acquisitions and stories...
Ok Let's get to the washers.
I left Awo when I was about to move to our mansion. At the time I didn't have a decent temperature coming out the hot tap because of our furnace that was too small for the whole house, so getting a agitator top loader for daily use was out of discussion, what I got out of the tap was water 120F at max, I would have never got the whites really white and spotless with that temperature. I needed a washer that would heat by itself, but I also wanted to use the hot water I got from the tap, because here electricity is crazily expensive so what I got was a 1964 ignis top loader h-axis. There is a long story about this machine and who sold it to me which I will tell later... I basically restored it and re-did it by myself. | ||
| Post# 1049175 , Reply# 2 10/28/2019 at 16:56 (1,635 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Post# 1049201 , Reply# 3 10/28/2019 at 21:05 (1,634 days old) by gansky1  (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Lighted panels make the wash cleaner. | ||
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Post# 1049215 , Reply# 4 10/29/2019 at 03:46 (1,634 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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It's So Nice To Have You Back Where You Belong | ||
| Post# 1049216 , Reply# 5 10/29/2019 at 04:38 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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@Gan:
Yeah hahah, I know right 😁😁 as lighted panel ranges cooks better! I have a thing for lighted panels and whatever is lighted. (Am gonna post my new kitchen and range in the super forum soon). The lady gave me no little troubles at the beginning, and I purchased it restored for dear money, but I was obstinate to fix it and have it running. Now I have three of this machine. One is marked as Fides. She's been in use for almost two years but as we recently replaced the furnace and now I have 145 degrees water coming out of the taps I swapped bringing up the speed Queen. I actually have plenty washers now and had others in use up in the house, I like to change often, I use the others downstairs or next to my workshop... @Launderess: Ciao Cara!!! Missed you also. I had things going on and been through some difficult moments health-wise speaking beside being busy with my new place, but indeed you are right! I belong here among you. I actually met many Italian washer fanatics during this time but you are where I belong and feel home, this community is so much different than the environment among Italian people which I didn't really like, not my place (no-surprise) but I will tell more later... | ||
| Post# 1049217 , Reply# 6 10/29/2019 at 04:49 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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I recently have brought up the speed Queen for daily use in my house and I also have a AEG clara from 1973 hooked up for the moment.
I have restored it now is running perfectly. Before the Clara I had a Zerowatt, and before the Zerowatt I had a Castor mini. | ||
| Post# 1049219 , Reply# 7 10/29/2019 at 05:02 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1049220 , Reply# 8 10/29/2019 at 05:04 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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The Zerowatt
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Post# 1049225 , Reply# 9 10/29/2019 at 06:38 (1,634 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 1049226 , Reply# 10 10/29/2019 at 06:40 (1,634 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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Ciao, I Like the eco-Italia label. Bueno tutti andiamo maschina. | ||
| Post# 1049238 , Reply# 11 10/29/2019 at 08:05 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Louis it's from 1964!
I have a Dutch advert also you may like to see! I have many more findings to share anyways! So stay tuned! 😁
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| Post# 1049239 , Reply# 12 10/29/2019 at 08:11 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Eco-italia | ||
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Post# 1049243 , Reply# 13 10/29/2019 at 08:41 (1,634 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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| Post# 1049253 , Reply# 14 10/29/2019 at 10:17 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Stingy with water.
Yes, so was our lavamat of the 1984, as soon as AEG started getting majorly involved with Zanussi bodied-parts machines they started making low water using machines, so this goes for models like 580, 971 and all the later models after the 80s mounting a brush motor and control board for the motor. They all were stingy.
With the exception of BOL induction models which were basically Zanussi machines in all and all, and the only AEG thing was the timer (see BOL models such as 400f or Lavalux) all the Zanussi based AEG were stingy. True wholly German AEG's used generous amount of water but they stopped being made and the last 100% original AEG German made machines were of the stile of the Domina i'll attach. They were still 100% Aeg but didn't have the open typical AEG suspended tub anymore. You will recognize true original AEG machines by the basket.
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Post# 1049256 , Reply# 15 10/29/2019 at 10:30 (1,634 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 1049257 , Reply# 16 10/29/2019 at 10:32 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Speaking of Aeg, I also have got a Clara SL machine, which is basically an updated version of the older Clara.
Differently from the Clara of the 1973 which does have a spin at the third rinse she doesn't have the spin, but for the rest of programs is almost identical. Same functions such as the spin exclusion and bio button that disconnect a portion of the elements to have the enzimatic action of the (new at the time as you well know) biological detergents take place at the beginning of the wash, with the bio on button it wouldn't jyst jump to boiling water in no-time thanks to her 3kwh element but would "spend" some more time (about 30 mins) in the "warm" range.... Another Aeg I got is actually marked as Neff (even though it's a 100% aeg) and it's a 800rpm model induction motor with clutch, but it's a work I need to finish yet, she needs proper restoration and a new timer, hers went crazy. I saved it from the dump. | ||
| Post# 1049263 , Reply# 17 10/29/2019 at 11:10 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1049264 , Reply# 18 10/29/2019 at 11:42 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Expensive Ignis
Yes, they were.
Unlike other Italian makers such as candy, Indesit etc Mr Borghi I believe didn't just care to sell in numbers but cared of reputation so the high quality at least initially. Italian machines were and became famous europewide for being functional economical and not too much over-done, value for money as they'd say, meaning that they would last their 30 years but I believe they didn't find necessary to have thick panels or porcelain or be so sturdy for materials like say AEG, Miele and others... But that also was their fortune. The Ignis washer indeed standed out and was named "Gran Lusso" meaning "High Luxe" and yes just wasn't for every pocket. Differently from the others ignis was built with high quality materials top to bottom. And it came in different versions, the same model would come with full porcelain body or just top and front panel, enamel outer tub or stainless outer tub. (Mine are all enameled). Then there was the Top line model which was the Kinox which had a stainless top outer tub and was even more stylish for controls and panel. | ||
| Post# 1049267 , Reply# 19 10/29/2019 at 11:54 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1049272 , Reply# 20 10/29/2019 at 13:06 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Speaking again about the ignis...
The only projectual flaw that I personally think that machine got is the fact that the control panel so the timer (which is very delicate itself being an Holtzer with a long series of lamellar contacts that operates the various washing selections) is not insulated from the body. The only thing separating it is a plastic thin sheet and steam during boilwashes would come up and oxidize the timer, this in fact was enough for early Ignis machines like those to be labelled as "delicate timer machines" and is no secret that machines belonged to ladies that often used to boil didn't last as much before developing timer issues. Beside trying my best to ensure a better and proper insulation to mine with a plexiglass sheet I am also used to spray the timer with WD40 to protect it, and making sure not to "wet" the little timer circuit elements that gets extremely hot during operation posing a risk of fire🔥🔥🔥 | ||
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Post# 1049282 , Reply# 21 10/29/2019 at 15:17 (1,634 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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AEG Lavamat / Clara
Hi Freddy great to see you back, love the Ignis and whats not to like about a H-Axis washing machine., do you still use the Servis MK2 Supertwin ??
The Clara looks very impressive, we managed to find the electric sink version comprising the dishwasher built in under the sink drainer and later the washing machine and tumble dryer along with a washer dryer a little newer !!
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| Post# 1049287 , Reply# 22 10/29/2019 at 16:08 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Hello Mike!
Well I am an agitator-preferred guy myself but the Ignis is my favorite about h axis machine ever! Wow so beautiful the electric sink with the favorit underneath!!! I actually was about to get a favorit dishwasher Stainless for free from Facebook Marketplace but they stole it under my nose. So the one next to the sink is the dryer right? Lavatherm? I don't see the drawer so must be the dryer. Could kindly ask if you have some more pictures of the dryer inside? For what concern the Servis unfortunately needs urgent transplant, the spinner seal and Bearing got destroyed totally, bearing balls everywhere!!! And I actually still have to take it apart to see what can be done and I am afraid I will not find parts for it. The washing side works just like a charm. Speaking about twin tub I recently got another twin tub, a Riber made in Turin. Unfortunately also got problems with the spinner,a small leak that occurs if I spin bulky stuff or I attempt to rinse in it, I can only do brief spins of few items at a time or I get water going to the motor tripping circuit breakers. I will post pics and I will try to load some videos on my YouTube. Anyways the riber is garbage compared to the servis, got a very weak agitation and only does well when you load it with few items. It does also have a very weak element that takes forever to heat the water. | ||
| Post# 1049288 , Reply# 23 10/29/2019 at 16:15 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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But as long as you lt it agitate her 3 5 minutes or so it'll get whites enough white and clean as seen in last pic. 😂
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| Post# 1049289 , Reply# 24 10/29/2019 at 16:16 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1049290 , Reply# 25 10/29/2019 at 16:20 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Washes with hundreds hands.
Yeah....you wish...😂😂
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| Post# 1049294 , Reply# 26 10/29/2019 at 16:48 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Unfortunately I don't have many videos in my phone anymore so I made the Facebook posts public so you can see them
CLICK HERE TO GO TO kenmoreguy89's LINK | ||
| Post# 1065912 , Reply# 27 4/4/2020 at 17:44 (1,475 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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More of Ignis | ||
| Post# 1065914 , Reply# 28 4/4/2020 at 17:50 (1,475 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Miele w427 | ||
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Post# 1066617 , Reply# 29 4/9/2020 at 10:00 (1,471 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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| Post# 1066619 , Reply# 30 4/9/2020 at 10:07 (1,471 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Hi. Thanks. Yes I still do have It, though the beauty had her spinner bearings that exploded consequently damaging the seal also. I was using it and all of a sudden there was a loud noise, water coming down along with bearing balls all over and circuit breaker breaking due to water going over the motor. I need to check it, in fact I was about to ask help here one of these days | ||
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Post# 1066646 , Reply# 31 4/9/2020 at 14:07 (1,471 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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| Post# 1066725 , Reply# 32 4/10/2020 at 05:41 (1,470 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Austin, thank you so much! I need to go get it at my old place but with the lockdown it may be more difficult, so I wanted to take the truck the next time I go grocery shopping and stop by at my old place picking it up. I can lift it in the trunk myself.... I miss so much twin tubbing. I got another twin tub, the Riber but I do not really like it at all. I miss the Servis. | ||
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