Thread Number: 81158
/ Tag: Ranges, Stoves, Ovens
Is this really from 1970 why would you need a transformer for a stove? |
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Post# 1051738   11/20/2019 at 14:12 (1,589 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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This is listed on Ebay and it says it will need a transformer as its 110 volts Now I thought it would have needed 110 just for the clock and other peripherals as the elements need 240 is that right?
I think someone needs to let the seller know before someone gets blown sky high... Austin CLICK HERE TO GO TO ozzie908's LINK on eBay |
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Post# 1051745 , Reply# 1   11/20/2019 at 14:52 (1,589 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 1051750 , Reply# 3   11/20/2019 at 16:30 (1,589 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Another electrical issue, too, would that the clock would probably not be accurate if used in the UK. Clocks are locked to AC frequency, so a 60 Hz clock would run slower if used on 50 Hz power. Although one supposes the clock might have been adapted or replaced at some point on this specific stove. Also it might not matter to some users if they don't use the automatic features on a stove clock (or else gets really good at doing calculations to adjust for the clock's inaccuracy).
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Post# 1051751 , Reply# 4   11/20/2019 at 16:54 (1,589 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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In the U.S. (and about 6 other countries) we have primarily a 120 volt/15 Amp power system.
EVERYWHERE else in the world, they have an approx. 240 volt/7.5 amps system. The Amps are what kill so a 240 volt system with half the Amps compared to the U.S. system, is safer. That's why most countries opted to go with the 240 volt system. You can have 10,000 volts but if it's not carrying any AMPS, you won't get a shock from it. So No, the 240 U.S. stove in the UK is Not going to work on the British 240 electric system because the Amps there are half what is needed to make it work. You could use a typical 'EU to U.S.' power converter to use the lights, outlets and the clock and you'd have to isolate those wires so they can be plugged into the converter. If one were really interested in using that stove in a 240 volt country it would be better to rewire it. You really wouldn't have much need for the U.S. outlets on the surface, anyway. |
Post# 1051806 , Reply# 6   11/21/2019 at 01:03 (1,589 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Is a 48 or 49, These were the ones that had concealed bake units that nearly always caused premature rusting of the oven floor. |
Post# 1051812 , Reply# 7   11/21/2019 at 03:06 (1,589 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Post# 1051825 , Reply# 9   11/21/2019 at 05:52 (1,589 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi David great explanation, I knew what you explained very well, lower voltages in terms of getting shocked are generally safer.
US wiring systems in commercial and better homes are very safe, in my home and the warehouse alike all wiring is in metal conduit which is much safer if you have a lighting strike nearby, the conductors can literally turn red hot without setting fire to adjacent wood parts of the home.
In US homes we use lots of smaller separate circuits, my home has close to 80 circuits and the warehouse already has over a 100.
I try to keep circuit size down, only 15 amps is necessary for most outlets, electric ranges dryers should never be fused at higher levels than necessary [ almost no electric ranges need a 50 amp line for example ] Run the heavier cable but keep the breaker size down.
In my kitchen the 5 element TD drop-in range is on 40 amps, the TD double Micro-convection wall oven, 40 amps, the four burner induction CT 30 amps and the Jenn-Air down draft CT 15 amps [ it is the two element model ] The kitchen has over 20 separate circuits and we have cooked for groups of over 80 and tried a breaker in over 30 years.
Where the US lower 120 volts is bad is in terms of copper use, we use nearly twice as much copper to wire a house as if all the circuits were 240 volts because the lower voltage requires the wire to be twice as thick, this is also why we use a split voltage for large [ generally ] permanently wired in loads as the copper wire sizes would be absurd for a 120 volt electric range.
John L.
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