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Video of '06 Frigidaire TL Washer Model 1749
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Post# 155216   9/17/2006 at 22:04 (6,423 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I bought a camcorder and here's my first video. How fitting (or very, very, very odd, depending on your perspective) it should be a washer video.

You'll notice there is no spray rinse during the spin. If you look on the right side of the washer, you'll see the base of a desk lamp, which I put there for extra lighting.

There is SO much splashing during the spray rinse that I was afraid the exposed light bulb would pop. So I shut off the cold water inlet. You'll notice it dribbles out a bit of water about 10 seconds into the spin. That is where the spray would have started. My apologies to Toggle.

Otherwise, enjoy the indexing tub and the l-o-n-g coast to stop at the end.



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Post# 155232 , Reply# 1   9/17/2006 at 23:04 (6,423 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I am surprised at the turnover.

Post# 155235 , Reply# 2   9/17/2006 at 23:12 (6,423 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        
Thanks!

I really enjoyed that clip.

I am surprised how much that tub indexes, I have never seen anything like that. It almost constantly spins.

It looks like a nice machine though.


Post# 155252 , Reply# 3   9/18/2006 at 00:48 (6,423 days old) by brettsomers ()        

educate me. i thought an *indexing tub* simply turned due to lack of brake and movement of clothes. this tub looks like its being driven. actually, looks the indexing is part of the wash action, since the auger seems to turn so subtle?

Post# 155256 , Reply# 4   9/18/2006 at 02:39 (6,423 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Thanks for sharing, that washer does not only have turnover but also turnaround! LOL

Post# 155283 , Reply# 5   9/18/2006 at 06:17 (6,423 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Thanks for watching, guys!

Bob-- The rollover is good, but slower than in a WP/KM, for instance. Much better than in my mid-80's WCI Frigidaire.

David-- Robert or someone else may have better information, but I think there is a spring involved. The longer the counter-clockwise stroke, the more tub indexing. Since the clockwise stroke is always the shortest, coupled with the old-school slower agitation speed, the auger doesn't have as much movement as in a WP/KM/MTAG. If you grab the tub and don't allow it to index, the agitation strokes become equal in length.

Louis-- It was odd seeing the clothes going counter-clockwise around the tub at first. Since the rollover is rather slow, it gives you something fun to watch, LOL!



Post# 155318 , Reply# 6   9/18/2006 at 09:08 (6,423 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

Great video. Thank you.

Ross


Post# 155545 , Reply# 7   9/19/2006 at 13:24 (6,422 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
Congrats on your New Washer Eugene!

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Great video Eugene, thanks for posting that! The indexing tub is due to the lack of brake, unless they changed that transmission over the years, but I seriously doubt it. To demonstrate that Eugene, if you set the water level to its lowest level and fill and agitate the machine without any clothes in it, I bet the indexing would be reduced by quite a bit. But on the other hand if you stuff the machine full with a Bob Load and run it, I bet the indexing would be even stronger! The more drag on the agitator the stronger the indexing should be.

Post# 155573 , Reply# 8   9/19/2006 at 15:43 (6,421 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Oh dear! Eugene, I'm glad you love your machine. Does the auger resist "unwinding" with other loads? It looked effective only 1/3 of the time. And the tub sure does index!

Post# 155597 , Reply# 9   9/19/2006 at 18:24 (6,421 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Peter---No, it always tends to unwind a bit. That combined with the relatively slow agitation and the fact the clockwise stroke is much shorter than the counter-clockwise stroke means the auger doesn't do as much as it does on other brands. But there is rollover, so I'm satisfied. I'm not sure I 'love' this TL'er. If I wanted the best of what's available in my small burg, I would have probably gotten a TOL Whirlpool. But I wanted something inexpensive that matched the pair I had. The Frigidaire fit the bill. It seems to clean well. And it's fun to watch!

I'm testing it with Tide CW and a full load of highly-stained kitchen whites and tablecloths tonight. I'm having guests in for spaghetti and ribs and there will be several small children present. You can imagine what the white tablecloths will look like. I'm even giving the kids cloth napkins. No mercy, LOL!

I washed a medium-large load of stained kitchen whites in the TL last week using hot water, Ariel and Clorox Ultimate Care. That load came out very well. But I want to test it using the same detergent/bleach/water temp combination I normally use with the FL'er.


Post# 155616 , Reply# 10   9/19/2006 at 19:59 (6,421 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Thanks for posting the video; interesting action! The corkscrew does seem to help the turnover. Those tubs sure do index wildly on these machines...I played with a similar one (except it had a straight-vane) a couple of years ago.

Post# 155640 , Reply# 11   9/19/2006 at 21:18 (6,421 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Here's an interesting observation: I'm now washing a full (up to the top row of holes) load of kitchen whites. There are two 53" x 114" poly/cotton tablecloths, 10 flour sack dish towels (which I also use as side towels, hooked to the side of my chef's apron, so they're full of stains from me wiping my hands on them), probably another 10 bar mops (roughly 10" x 14" terry cotton towels with blue stripes), 10 cloth napkins, and some undershirts/shorts/sport socks.

I had the machine fill to the top row of holes (which is where these machines used to go for their maximum fill) and I noticed two things: a bit less indexing and hardly any auger unwinding. Don't know if it's because the extra water helped stop it from unwinding or if it's because the fabrics are all lighter-weight than the full load of heavy bath towels from the video. Maybe a bit of both.

There is so much counter-clockwise motion of the clothes (obvious in the video) that I can understand why the auger would unwind a fair amount. They just pull the thing along with them as they circle the tub.

I may have time this weekend to post another video to show the difference in auger-unwinding when the water level is higher.

I'm having WAY too much fun with all of this.



Post# 155646 , Reply# 12   9/19/2006 at 21:44 (6,421 days old) by tlee618 ()        

That was really neat Eugene, thanks so much for taking the time to share it with us.

Post# 155688 , Reply# 13   9/20/2006 at 01:08 (6,421 days old) by agiflow ()        

Nice machine Eugene. I think Robert is correct in stating about the tub indexing less on a small load.

We had an early seventies Westinghouse with the spiral-ramp agitator and that tub would index pretty strongly with a full load and very little with a small load.

Those spiral type agitators Westy used were actually pretty decent.


Post# 155715 , Reply# 14   9/20/2006 at 06:31 (6,421 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Friends had one of the Westy's you're referencing with the blue, ramped agitator, and it was great to watch. There was a lot of water/clothes action. Rollover was very good with those.

Post# 155824 , Reply# 15   9/20/2006 at 17:57 (6,420 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
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Love Frigidaires. Guess you do too. Is there anything at all in the beautiful new machine that is even remotely reminiscent of the old grandaddies in the Frigidaire lineage?

Why not be daring and show that 22 second spray rinse; just move the light away--I'll pay for any damage incurred. Promise.

What a nice washer flick.

Thank you.

With Friendly Envy,

Mike


Post# 155855 , Reply# 16   9/20/2006 at 19:27 (6,420 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I don't think there's anything remotely connected to the GM-era Frigidaires, unfortunately. For some reason, Electrolux is more interested in preserving certain ties with the WCI era, like the indexing tub. But there ain't nothin' in common with the old-school 'cept the name. It's true; it's a...it's a FRAUDGIDAIRE. (He bursts into tears. And scene.)

I'll do another video and change the lighting so the spray rinse can be shown. The original video I made (without extra lighting) had the spray rinse, but there wasn't enough light. The washer looked almond-green and the texture looked grainy. I was afraid there'd be nothing left of it by the time it went through all the compressing YouTube requires. I literally had to wipe down the videocam after the spray rinse. There was water everywhere. It was like a monsoon that only covered about 8 square feet, LOL!

I had horrible visions of the bulb shattering and me trying to pick tiny shards of glass out of my new bath towels.



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