Thread Number: 81201
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
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Post# 1052216   11/24/2019 at 21:04 (1,611 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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In 1967, my Grandmother paid $259 for a new Maytag automatic washer. I put that number into an inflation calculator and she would pay almost $2,000 for the same washer today!
Why were home appliances and consumer electronics so expensive back then? I'm assuming that cheap goods from China explains some of the cheaper cost today. But was it also because products were higher quality then?
I remember in 1966, my Dad bought our family a new Zenith color console TV. He went to the bank and borrowed $599 to buy it! That is $4600 in today's dollars! Very few people would pay that much for a television these days! |
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Post# 1052235 , Reply# 2   11/25/2019 at 00:43 (1,611 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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The real question is why are most new cars TODAY so expensive?
A car is just an appliance, built on the same assembly lines as washers and other appliances, so.....why the cost is so ridiculous?
In terms of weight, a typical car weighs about 10X what a washer weighs so if you price a car based on weight, a washer weighing $600 means a car should cost about $6000 (600 x 10). boom, that's where it should be. In that arena.
There's certainly nothing special about a fossil fuel powered vehicle. There are MILLIONS of them out there, now more than ever. The prices certainly can't be justified by rarity or importance. AFterall, if all auto manufacturers stopped making them for two years, nobody would care or notice the difference. There are
huge parking lots of new vehicles stacking up at various ports around the world where all the over capacity is quietly scuttled away in order to keep the new car price bubble afloat. It seems we're always dealing with bubbles. housing bubble, currency bubbles, Iphone bubble, etc.
You know the auto manufacturers don't give a crap when they make most of the vehicles in only a few colors with few options. Back in 1970s, which was the top for being able to order cars in numerous colors both inside and out, it wasn't unusual to be able to choose from 20 different interior colors. Unimaginable by today.
The market is saturated, not just in the U.S. but in other countries like China as well. Auto volume sales have been falling since 2015, but the price volume has continued to climb. That means the auto dealers are selling fewer cars for more money than ever.
So WHO are the fools buying these vehicles? It's not the millenials thats for sure. I'm certainly not buying any petroleum based vehicles new.
Now with electric cars arriving, and the market wising up to the stupidity of these over priced fossil fuel vehicles, there's going to continue to be a backing up of unsold vehicles. That's probably why ford has stopped making cars and gm has been idling or closing factories.
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Post# 1052245 , Reply# 4   11/25/2019 at 06:49 (1,611 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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And far higher build quality and far more durable Than major appliances are.
There is also a lot of competition on both cars and appliances on the popular fast selling models, so the consumer pricing is really about spot on.
Back in the 60s it took about 10 times as many man hours to build and assemble an appliance so real costs were much higher.
Cars today are far more complex than a 1965 Mustang, today you have an automobile that is at least 10 times better than what you got in 1965, and it will last at least three times as long in spite of greater complexity, and you will not die if you get into an accident while texting, LOL.
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Post# 1052291 , Reply# 8   11/25/2019 at 16:20 (1,610 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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Yes, 1975 was the year that the 250 six was replaced by the 350 V8 as the standard engine in the Impala. My info states that it had a base price of $4,600, which is about $23,000 in todays money, for a car with no air conditioning. |
Post# 1052294 , Reply# 9   11/25/2019 at 16:46 (1,610 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)   |   | |
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Post# 1052301 , Reply# 10   11/25/2019 at 17:54 (1,610 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 1052305 , Reply# 12   11/25/2019 at 18:20 (1,610 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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My Mom bought a new 1963 Chevrolet Impala 2 dr HT with a 327 V8, Powerglide, PS, PB and an AM/FM radio as the options and paid $3400.00, so the $2772.40 that Patrick’s parents paid inn 63’ for a Chevy Biscayne is right in line with the prices in 63’.
In 1969 I paid $1995.00 off the showroom floor for a new VW bug, the only option was pop out rear windows. I received the radio as a HS graduation gift from my aunt and my cousins boyfriend installed it for me. My Mom made the deal over the phone from her desk at the doctors office that she worked in and the dealer delivered the car to her work, about 35 miles from the dealership. I of course paid for it, but she negotiated the deal and the loan for me. The loan was 5% interest for 36 mo., I put $606.00 down and the payments were $53.00 a mo., which I paid in person at the bank each month and had my car loan paymt. card stamped and initialed each time by a teller. Eddie |
Post# 1052308 , Reply# 14   11/25/2019 at 19:07 (1,610 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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equipped, as VW did away with the reserve tank after 61’. The older model Bugs had a reserve tank that held approx. 1 gal, because they didn’t have a fuel gauge. When the main tank ran empty the driver flipped a lever on the floor to open the reserve tank, and then needed to make haste to the next gas station,
volkswagenutah.wordpress.com/201... And getting a 73’ for $1890.00 must have also been some kind of special deal. Volkswagon’s back in the early days were the same price all over the country, no room for negotiation on the base price. This was one of their selling points, something that they included in their advertising. I bought mine from one of the first VW dealers is the USA, and I know that they were all priced the same for the base model. In fact, I owned over the years two 69’s and a 70’. WhenI bought the 70’ it was I believe $2055.00, because I bought it with the radio. The second 69’ I bought in 73’, used, and paid around $1200.00. I believe that I still have the original window sticker for the first 69’ in a box buried under piles of old stuff, and I have no inclination to dig it out, but I’m certain it was $1995.00. I doubt that they reduced the price almost $1000.00 four years later. I remember the 70’s very well and thats when inflation was just beginning, and we were all complaining about how things were going up. Eddie |
Post# 1052310 , Reply# 16   11/25/2019 at 19:41 (1,610 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)   |   | |
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Post# 1052312 , Reply# 17   11/25/2019 at 19:47 (1,610 days old) by sfh074 ( )   |   | |
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But I would think there would have been a line item on the receipt showing the discount for the trade in. But you could be right. |
Post# 1052321 , Reply# 18   11/25/2019 at 21:15 (1,610 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Yes Bud, my math was off, sorry for the error.
And I meant no disrespect, as I hope you didn’t either. If you’ll read the link I posted, it states that the reserve tank capacity was approx.1 gal, or 25 to 30 miles before completely out of gas, I’ve never owned a 73’ personally, but I drove a couple, and I never saw a reserve tank lever. That’s why I suggested that perhaps your parents 73’ was specially equipped, but I can’t imagine where a reserve tank would have been located, VW space was efficiently and completely used. Eddie |
Post# 1052322 , Reply# 19   11/25/2019 at 21:30 (1,610 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 1052323 , Reply# 20   11/25/2019 at 21:41 (1,610 days old) by spacepig (Floridas Emerald Coast)   |   | |
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Going back to the discussion of appliances, here are some 1954 GE appliance price lists that came with some brochures I purchased off of e-bay.
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Post# 1052348 , Reply# 21   11/26/2019 at 08:34 (1,610 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1052367 , Reply# 23   11/26/2019 at 10:53 (1,609 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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I think we can all agree that appliances, including automobiles, are made better than they were in the 1960s. With improved technologies and laws requiring efficiency and safety, we're generally better off.
A lot of products, at the core, are still the same basic unit as they were 50 years ago. This includes petroleum based automobiles which still have 4 tires, 4 seats, doors, a motor, head lamps, etc. refrigerators are still a metal box with shelves and a compressor to make cold. Water pumps still pump water, toasters still use an element to make toast, dryers still tumble clothes and add heat.
They may look different but most appliances are still the same inside but with more safety features.
And industry won't put prices on things they think they can't get people to pay. They certainly can't force people to buy ANYTHING.
So why have a certain group of people bowed to auto manufacturers and voluntarily paid ridiculous sums? They certainly aren't in the majority. Or even chosen to shell out $5000 for an ugly unpainted refrigerator? LOL
As somebody pointed out, not all vehicles are ridiculously priced. I recently looked at a new Honda Fit and was amazed the price was in the $16,000 range. Whatever, the petroleum auto industry is collapsing and that's a good thing.
Hadn't been on the Sears website for several years. Was amazed they didn't have washers under $400. I remember when you could buy a Galaxy washer for $189. lol
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Post# 1052368 , Reply# 24   11/26/2019 at 11:17 (1,609 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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Post# 1052378 , Reply# 25   11/26/2019 at 12:22 (1,609 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Thanks Bud for the info on your parents 73’ VW reserve tank set up. You learn something new everyday. 😊 When I thought about where this tank could have possibly been located the only option I could imagine was under the rear seat.
This sounds like a bad idea, kinda like the Pinto’s gas tank being located in the rear of the car, and the terrible accidents they were involved in and the major lawsuits against Ford Mo. Co. as a result of this poor design. I would think that if you were in an accident the rear seat passengers would have been in real serious danger. But then, Volkswagon’s were never known for being particularly safe anyway. I always felt like I was in a rolling death trap when I drove mine, but they were cheap and reliable, and I was poor, so at the time they filled a need for me. I apologize for questioning your veracity. Eddie |