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Post# 1053497   12/8/2019 at 03:59 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        

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As winter 2019 approaches we meet up at Alistair`s Emporium, seeing old friends from the past and greeting new friends as well, also to move on with a collaborative effort the Hoover Keymatic timer issue and fix !!

August Bank Holiday Meet 2019
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As Dot Cotton says "Launderettes Open" .....


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Post# 1053498 , Reply# 1   12/8/2019 at 04:02 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hotpoint Toploaders at the ready !!

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Post# 1053499 , Reply# 2   12/8/2019 at 04:05 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Wall of Miele at the ready !!

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Post# 1053500 , Reply# 3   12/8/2019 at 04:06 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Wall of Servis polished & Ready

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Post# 1053501 , Reply# 4   12/8/2019 at 04:09 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hoover Keymatic Corner All Ready and the Hoover rug "Hoovered" with Als gleaming Hoover Junior 1334 from 1958.

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Post# 1053502 , Reply# 5   12/8/2019 at 04:10 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Small Appliances lined up...

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Post# 1053503 , Reply# 6   12/8/2019 at 04:11 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Fairy Laundry soap freshly grated

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Post# 1053504 , Reply# 7   12/8/2019 at 04:13 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Classic Hotpoints polished and the blown capacitor fixed and ready to wash..

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Post# 1053506 , Reply# 8   12/8/2019 at 04:15 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Front geeting wall of Hoover Automatics polished and ready...

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Post# 1053507 , Reply# 9   12/8/2019 at 04:22 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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First guests arrive, heres Mathew (Keymatic3203) and Richard (Ricky50) armed with boxes of parts for machine fixes and swaps. The week before its always a barrage of phone calls for who needs what and when for, so that when we meet its a productive swap out, and no sooner is the car empty than its usually full of swapped appliances lol.

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Post# 1053508 , Reply# 10   12/8/2019 at 04:27 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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A warm welcome to Rob (RobM) for his first visit to Als Emporium, usually seen at the London meet ups , great to have you visit "The North" Rob and many more visits lol...

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Post# 1053509 , Reply# 11   12/8/2019 at 04:31 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Need to fire up the boiler for the Hotpoint Toploaders as we have guests wanting to use them !!

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Post# 1053510 , Reply# 12   12/8/2019 at 04:35 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Heres Steve (SESteve) and Dave ready to load & wash along with bags of cooking apples you can see that Ian brings from his garden for sharing out !!

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Post# 1053511 , Reply# 13   12/8/2019 at 04:37 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Meanwhile in the kitchen Al is getting out the vintage Mary Ann 1950`s food mixer to cope with whipping cream for the trifles..

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Post# 1053512 , Reply# 14   12/8/2019 at 04:38 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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As well as switching on the AEG drip drip filter coffee maker..

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Post# 1053513 , Reply# 15   12/8/2019 at 04:41 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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As well as sneaking a peek at his New In Box classic Sunbeam Mixmaster !!

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Post# 1053514 , Reply# 16   12/8/2019 at 04:45 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Chilli veggie style prepped and slowcooking ready for dinner..

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Post# 1053515 , Reply# 17   12/8/2019 at 04:47 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Cream Whipped, custard stirred and cooled and trifles a la Al are ready to go !!

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Post# 1053516 , Reply# 18   12/8/2019 at 04:50 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Heres Darren (Slowspin66), Ian (TriumphDolomite), Mathew (Keymatic3203) and Richard (Ricky50) ready and discussing best options for the Hoover Keymatic timer fix..

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Post# 1053517 , Reply# 19   12/8/2019 at 04:53 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Meanwhile first load in the Servis Quartz computer control from 1982 is spinning away at 1000rpm....60d cottons wash 3 rinses final 1000 spin.

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Post# 1053518 , Reply# 20   12/8/2019 at 04:57 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Washing Rinsing Spinning...all touch control, these washers where produced following on from the Worlds first computerised washing machine, The Servis Selectronic in 1976, in collaboration with P & G who developed New Ariel Automatic for best use of multifabric washes and enzyme washing powders.

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Post# 1053519 , Reply# 21   12/8/2019 at 05:03 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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While sorting out the Servis display came across some promotional items of the era, this was a 1970`s promotion of a Soap Dispenser, like those 60`s tea caddys, you fix it to the wall and fill it with washing powder,
it has a plastic cup over the top which you take off and press the bar underneath dispensing a measured dosage of washing powder.


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Post# 1053520 , Reply# 22   12/8/2019 at 05:07 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Also found these cute promotional collectors items produced by Corgi, racing cars and vans. Servis used to sponsor the rally cars.

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Post# 1053521 , Reply# 23   12/8/2019 at 05:14 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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And sponsored many a local field day and carnival, Nowthen - a free packet of Ariel for who can name the truck ??

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Post# 1053522 , Reply# 24   12/8/2019 at 05:21 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Oops getting carried away with all things Servis which if ya didnt guess is my first choice of vintage washer having been the one brand we had growing up, Servis was rather like Maytag, family business and privately owned !!

Back to the weekend and its time to tackle the main job which is working out the fault with the Hoover Keymatic slope front timer from 1961.


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Post# 1053523 , Reply# 25   12/8/2019 at 05:28 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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The Hoover Keymatic Timer was made by Holzer in Germany and for its time in 1961 to 1966 it was well ahead of its time as we will see later, there where 6 types of timer used and the problems of the first where worked out and advancements made.

My timer is a version 2 timer called an AT timer, which has 36 cam positions, later ones had 42, first one being AU, then AT and later ATH x 4 , which was also combined with 6 harness modifications over the lifetime of the series and three styles of Keyplates as well.

Oh Steve, this was the lable that fell off the timer - had it been on it would have saved time working through 3 wiring schematics checking for faults Aaghhh!!


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Post# 1053525 , Reply# 26   12/8/2019 at 05:43 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Outside of the timer called The Programme Switch

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Post# 1053526 , Reply# 27   12/8/2019 at 05:48 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Inside of the timer or Programme Switch consists of a clockwork motor to engage the cams and gears..

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Post# 1053527 , Reply# 28   12/8/2019 at 05:51 by Chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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How it works...

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Post# 1053528 , Reply# 29   12/8/2019 at 05:58 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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The issue with the timer is it keeps cycling through the complete programme and timeline round and round, its had also blown the resistor which is used to switch between 240v and110v for the clockwork motor / timer advance...

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Post# 1053529 , Reply# 30   12/8/2019 at 06:07 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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But before that we need to rule out that there are no faults with the Hoover Keymatic card reader called the Keyplate Switch which is where the programme keyplate is inserted, now by chance we have not one but TWO replacement cardreaders which both came from the same shop but over different years, Big Thanks to Mike (Mikeymatic) and Richard (Ricky50) for hunting these down and donating them to the cause !!

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Post# 1053531 , Reply# 31   12/8/2019 at 06:10 by Chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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And discription of how it works....

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Post# 1053532 , Reply# 32   12/8/2019 at 06:17 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Old and new Keyplate switches or card readers side by side, now to check with the right "Ahem" schematic, my bad, to test all circuits are working !!

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Post# 1053533 , Reply# 33   12/8/2019 at 06:21 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Old and new Keyplate switches or card readers side by side, now to check with the right "Ahem" schematic, my bad, to test all circuits are working !!

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Post# 1053534 , Reply# 34   12/8/2019 at 06:23 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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New Keyplate switch in place ready for testing...

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Post# 1053535 , Reply# 35   12/8/2019 at 06:24 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Re fitting the timer and checking connections again...

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Post# 1053536 , Reply# 36   12/8/2019 at 06:26 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Working through the schematics, thankfully we have all the original and updated Hoover Service manuals to advise !!

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Post# 1053537 , Reply# 37   12/8/2019 at 06:31 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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All clear with this, old and new cardreaders working fine so we did swap back to the original one, and time to crack open the Timer or Programme Switch and replace the blown resistor for starters !!

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Post# 1053538 , Reply# 38   12/8/2019 at 06:36 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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This process took some time gently cracking open and studying them Programmer Switch or timer, and lessons for all around !! Also the replacement timers despite being correct voltage and requirements on the invoice order (thankfully) where wrong spec and they kept blowing, stern words for that company !!

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Post# 1053539 , Reply# 39   12/8/2019 at 06:38 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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So an old replacement was put back in which worked !!

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Post# 1053540 , Reply# 40   12/8/2019 at 06:40 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Time to clean up all the contacts and re-assemble ready for fitting and testing !!

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Post# 1053541 , Reply# 41   12/8/2019 at 06:41 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Re-fitting and checking all connections right way in, however did we manage without camera phones !!

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Post# 1053542 , Reply# 42   12/8/2019 at 06:48 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Some advancement, timer works and energises cams & contacts but is stopping on a certain position, time to crack open the timer again, its been a long day, long nights, time to call its quits for tonight and have dinner..and drinks...discussions on next steps and laughter !!

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Post# 1053545 , Reply# 43   12/8/2019 at 06:56 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Around the table for a hearty supply of home made veggie chilli, baked potatoes are L - R Walter (Supertwin59), Saj, Steve (SESteve) Mark, Mathew (Keymatic3203) Alistair the host (Vacbear58), Ian (TriumphDolomite), Jamie, Liam, Rob (RobM) and hiding Mark (MarkyMark) and Jon (LavamatJon)

Good time had by all...


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Post# 1053546 , Reply# 44   12/8/2019 at 06:58 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Whos for pudding !! Alistairs whipped up home made trifles...

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Post# 1053547 , Reply# 45   12/8/2019 at 07:03 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Next day and its time to tackle a few other Quick Fixes or so we think, lol...this is an original Hoover 800 from 1976 being coaxed back to life with a replacement motor, mains lead, and card power module..
fitted by Mathew & Steve with Rob checking the work !!


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Post# 1053548 , Reply# 46   12/8/2019 at 07:06 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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The White Knight spinner to the rescue, induction motor, direct drive spinning at 2,800rpm ready for the dryers as its blowing a gale and a hooley (driving rain) outside so now twintub washing on the patio for the rest of the season !!

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Post# 1053549 , Reply# 47   12/8/2019 at 07:08 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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The Miele touch control is on its main wash..

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Post# 1053550 , Reply# 48   12/8/2019 at 07:09 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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And all available dishwashers are being loaded and unloaded..

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Post# 1053551 , Reply# 49   12/8/2019 at 07:12 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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The rather rare Miele W489 toplading washer dryer, mae for the UK market is being scrutinised.

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Post# 1053552 , Reply# 50   12/8/2019 at 07:17 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Along with the Asko Asea toploader, very robust toploader with Quattro Shock absorbers, 1300rpm spin, I remember selling these in 1986 through an Independent Electrical retailer in Manchester.

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Post# 1053553 , Reply# 51   12/8/2019 at 07:19 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Time to tackle the Hoover Keymatic timer again...

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Post# 1053554 , Reply# 52   12/8/2019 at 07:20 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Here we can see the top part of the clockwork timer and geartrain operating the various gears and banks of switches etc..

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Post# 1053555 , Reply# 53   12/8/2019 at 07:24 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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But we dont know whats underneath that when split open , on the bottom parts is the circuit contacts to which the wiring loom connectors plugs, (which those where ahead of their time in regards to other manufacturers machines which used individual crimped wires on their timers) instead of Hoovers block connectors.

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Post# 1053557 , Reply# 54   12/8/2019 at 07:31 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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To our complete surprise its a circuit board, never seen anything like it on other timers of the era, Star Trek next generation here we come, John Hewett is a Hoover Engineer who owned a Hoover Service Centre in Cheltenham and he says that if these went wrong they where simply swapped out and returned to manufacture for replacement and credit, If a customer needed to buy one out of guarantee they charged £4 pounds a replacement timer which would be £88 pounds in todays money !!

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Post# 1053558 , Reply# 55   12/8/2019 at 07:32 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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This disc represents one complete revolution of the top plastic wheel with contacts for a complete programme.

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Post# 1053559 , Reply# 56   12/8/2019 at 07:37 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Here is the wheel driven by the clockwork motor from above and attached are the two sets of four contacts that make contact during the revolution of the wheel on disc to provide the right energisation of components ie, fill heat wash pump rinse and spin..ingenious..

On the side of the wheel segments are the numbers of the 1 - 36 positions which can be seen on a tiny viewing window on the side of the timer, this helps diagnose faults through timer position..


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Post# 1053560 , Reply# 57   12/8/2019 at 07:39 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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We can now see evidence where the contacts have stuck and scorched through electrical overload and heating, possibly heater circuit.

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Post# 1053561 , Reply# 58   12/8/2019 at 07:41 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Time to clean up and test the circuits to see if we can identify the problem..

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Post# 1053562 , Reply# 59   12/8/2019 at 07:46 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Alas it had also blown the remaining resistor ( having ordered 10 of the right type but delivered the wrong Ohms ) so as this was the end of day two and no bank holiday the time flies and we leave it untill next time, new resistors ordered awaiting fitting, also the heater had blown continuity so there is a UK manufacturer who manufactures new heaters to shape and wattage of original for a reasonable fee thats being ordered as well . So...To Be Continued !!

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Post# 1053563 , Reply# 60   12/8/2019 at 07:48 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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So its Goodbye from this crew...Liam, Luke, Jamie, Saj & Jon, until nest time

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Post# 1053564 , Reply# 61   12/8/2019 at 07:50 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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And goodnight from this room...Mark (Markymark) Paul (MatchboxPaul) Mathew (Keymatic3203), Walter (Supertwin59) and Ian (Triumphdolomite) ....

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Post# 1053565 , Reply# 62   12/8/2019 at 07:58 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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And a Happy Smiling Keymatic face until next time, these magnet stickers where made by Richard (Ricky50) after much consultation about which washers are working, whats in repair mode
so its smiley for working and sad for awaiting a fix...we Love them, Ta Richard !!

Big Thanks as ever to Alistair for hosting and hospitality which takes considerable time, and effort in his home,
to all the newbies visiting we look forward to seeing you all again and to the groupies of old catch you on the next Repair Shop !!

Cheers !!


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Post# 1053576 , Reply# 63   12/8/2019 at 09:54 by Ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
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Thanks Mike for memorialising the weekend. It goes so quick and there were a lot of us this time. Thanks to Al who never stopped cooking. And for everyone else who made it a laugh ! I wonder if they’re as are any timer experts on here? Even though USA is different voltage we could maybe’s call in their expertise to see if we can fix it?

Richard


Post# 1053583 , Reply# 64   12/8/2019 at 12:08 by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now in Sitges [Barcelona] & Palm Springs, CA)        

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Thanks to Mike for documenting another of our legendary wash-ins!  

 

A great weekend hosted by Al and attended by old and new friends laughing

 

Let's hope someone knows a timer expert who can help with the Keymatic!


Post# 1053589 , Reply# 65   12/8/2019 at 13:22 by bradfordwhite (space coast)        
beautiful studio

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and impressive collection.



Post# 1053661 , Reply# 66   12/9/2019 at 08:04 by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        

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All this Keymatic lore - those programmers seems to be like an onion, you have to keep peeling off all the layers - its is almost as if the engineers deliberatley set out to create the most complex machine then could.

Thanks to Mike for documemtating another weekend and all those who came along - see you soon :)

Al


Post# 1053665 , Reply# 67   12/9/2019 at 09:25 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Re; Corgi vehicles

I have a few, nothing with advertising, which makes models more collectable/valuable, usually, but my dad left me a 1/43 scale 70's Rolls Silver Shadow coupe' in silver with jewel headlights, opening bonnet, doors, boot, and folding seat backs. Excellent shape too. Although not a Corgi, but a Dinky, more so vintage, only fair condition though, a "pink" Austin Atlantique cabrio that needs painting. The rest are smaller scale. I only wish I still had all the Lesney Matchbox cars I had as a kid. The blue "Harry Potter" Ford Anglia, Greyhound bus, VW T1 or T2 van camper in blue, green Mercury Commuter station wagon, Opel Diplomat in gold, Lincoln Continental, 2 Ford Zephyr's, early, and later 60's, red Jaguar XKE, several "models of yesteryear" including the red 1911 Caddilac. I still have the green Sante Fe steam locomotive. Not yet so vimtage is a very sharp blue and black Hispano Suiza in 1/43 scale.

Post# 1053681 , Reply# 68   12/9/2019 at 11:50 by supertwin59 (shropshire, england, united kingdom)        
UK Nov 2019 meet at Als.

Again many thanks to Al for his kind and generous hospitality for hosting this event and for feeding us so well, and to Mike for his photographic and documentary skills.

This was the first time I had seen Al's new house extension lay out. Al, clearly, had given great thought to the project as the space has been very well planned to display his extensive collection not forgetting the kitchen layout which offers efficiency as well as pleasing aspect.

As always the company was friendly, enjoyable and informative.

OMG.... I well and truly look like my father these days, but I am just not worth spending thousands on plastic surgery and liposuction!!!

Regards to all, Walter, Newport, Shropshire, West Mids.



Post# 1053837 , Reply# 69   12/10/2019 at 14:27 by triumphdolomite (Staffs(UK))        
Thanks

To Al for his hospitality over the weekend its always good to get together at these events. And thanks to Mike for documenting it in these threads, to be able to go back and relive moments like this makes it even more special.
Ian


Post# 1053941 , Reply# 70   12/11/2019 at 09:42 by Alanlondon (London)        
I have a new keymatic heater Mike

Firstly, great event, super to see the weekend unfolding. Looks like an amazing time was had by all. And secondly I have a spare new Keymatic heater you can have Mike, I’ve sent you an email.

Great event.

Cheers Alan


Post# 1053973 , Reply# 71   12/11/2019 at 15:54 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Winter Warmer Meet & Vintage Keymatic Fix November 2019

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Hi Richard, Mark, Ian it would be grand if we find expertise for the timer, but am always impressed how discussion over the tea & biscuits have offered us solutions to many issues in the past !!

Walter always great to see and catch up with you, will get more vacs out next time !!



Post# 1053975 , Reply# 72   12/11/2019 at 16:05 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hi Keith (Bradforwhite) Thanks, this is only one room, theres the first washroom in a stand alone outside of the house, and a vac room which is about to be extended, never mind the cupboard displays of small appliances, its al culmination of many collectors who through Alistair came together as collectors now great friends who made it all happen !! More to come...!!

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Post# 1053976 , Reply# 73   12/11/2019 at 16:09 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Winter Warmer Meet & Vintage Keymatic Fix November 2019

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Hi Mike (Vacerator) sounds an amazing collection of the minatures, I always wanted model cars and / or trains as akid but never got them, enjoyed playing with my friends who always had the latest steam locos...

Only started collecting these about 20 yrs ago still a few about, great when you see the originals trucks delivering the washer in old photographs !!


Post# 1053978 , Reply# 74   12/11/2019 at 16:23 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Winter Warmer Meet & Vintage Keymatic Fix November 2019

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Evening Alan, wow, many thanks for your offer, have just responded to email, it still amazes me how some parts are still about , we are determined to get this model working fully again now it has its new paint job ..

Look forward to meeting up at Alistairs place the coming year to show you the hard work and pick your brains for the appliance knowledge !!

I smile every time I see one of these new elements with much lower wattages and wiring that thin it looks you could snap it compared to the keymatic heater which just gets on with the job !!

Cheers, Mike


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Post# 1054004 , Reply# 75   12/11/2019 at 19:11 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Thank's Mike!, I am also liking your

photos of your collections. I'm also an Electrolux fan myself. I see you have a green canned ham vacuum. Is it branded Eureka, or Parnall? Same one my mom had when I was a tyke, with the "vibra-beat". Those heavy ball bearing motors run forever.
Sadly my dad must have trashed that one out after it was about 15 years old when the hose and accessories were worn out. However, I have both 1980 Brandywine color Eureka "rot-matic" power teams. The updated canned ham version with push button suction bleeders, and the rectangular shaped one with a dial bleeder.





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