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Has Tide Products Been Reformulated
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Post# 1055322   12/23/2019 at 23:48 (270 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        

Has Tide products been reformulated? I use Tide with Bleach Powder for towels, bedding, Whites and use Liquid Tide Original Scent for all the clothes. I use the detergent very sparingly in a Kenmore Elite front load washer and noticed the washer struggling to drain and that the washer is full of foam. I am able to get the foam down by adding downy. This issue has just started and have used Tide products for years without any problems of sudslocking. I did experience this problem when using Gain powder detergent in our Speed Queen Front Load washer. Living on the Oregon Coast we do have relatively soft water but am now just seeing this issue of suds locking. I also noticed the washer adding water to during the drain cycle trying to flush the pump out and the washer is NOT giving any codes to look for system failure. The Tide is labled HE for top and front load washer use. Any advice is appreciated.


Post# 1055343 , Reply# 1   12/24/2019 at 06:59 (270 days old) by retro-man (nashua,nh - boston,ma)        

I thought I had picked up a box of concentrated Tide which I don't think there is that version. My normal dosage seemed to be way too much. Maybe a half a cup in a top loader, 10lb version. Down to about a 1/3 cup per load now and the suds are more controlled. Still doing double rinsing to make sure previous loads are rinsed out.


Post# 1055344 , Reply# 2   12/24/2019 at 07:47 (270 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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The most logical approach addressing the problem would be using less detergent.
If you notice a drop in cleaning ability by using less which is actually not that easy to tell because laundry sins like severe underdosing might only show after repeated washings, then you could try adding a little suds suppressor.

Fabric softener added to the wash cycle is ok as an immediate remedy in an emergency of oversudsing, but I think it should not be part of a regular laundry routine because the anionic surfactants of the detergent form an insoluble precipitate with the cationic surfactants of the fabric softener.

A better solution seems to add a little bit of real grated soap like Ivory or a similar bar soap or flakes and see where it gets you. This is what most detergent manufacturers do already. The downside is that you need a little bit of water hardness to make a soap based suds suppressing system work.

A safe bet would be adding a little silicone oil to the wash cycle. This would knock down the suds even in the softest water conditions. Detergent manufacturers do this as well often in combination with soap. The downside is that silicones are not easily biodegradable and maybe the costs.
Single use packages of pure silicone oils can be purchased in any adult store sold as personal lubricants. Perfect to give it a try first. I`d start with a drop or two and see what it does. Wouldn`t add it to the detergent dispenser, directly into the drum seems a better option.

Post# 1055354 , Reply# 3   12/24/2019 at 09:44 (270 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)        
1 to 2 tablespoons

In my front loader. Any more than that and there is trouble.

Post# 1055380 , Reply# 4   12/24/2019 at 13:45 (269 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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I had this problem in our FL machine as soon as Gain powder started to be labeled "for both" types of machines.  It was only a matter of time before P&G applied this same sudsy formula to Tide.


I used dollar store fabric softener to knock down the suds in the wash cycle.  IIRC, I may have even used de-foamer for our hot tub a time or two.   You might try adding borax.  It tends to reduce suds.


I've given up on powders.  They're not truly HE anymore and I've accepted that  liquids have come to dominate the laundry detergent landscape.

Post# 1055383 , Reply# 5   12/24/2019 at 14:07 (269 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
adding borax

This is also a laundry room staple in our home. If we don't have borax i use washing soda as it helps remove most odors and in my opinion the clothes are cleaner.

Post# 1055624 , Reply# 6   12/26/2019 at 12:57 (267 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        

Yes, they did reformulate. I have not had a sudsing issue. However the scent is unbearable and sticks around. Whoever is in charge of P$Gs scent department at Tide is doing a horrible job.

Post# 1055630 , Reply# 7   12/26/2019 at 13:35 (267 days old) by bradfordwhite (space coast)        

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They don't taste the same either.  ....I don't know.... plastic is kinda chunky......

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Post# 1055694 , Reply# 8   12/27/2019 at 07:51 (267 days old) by Iej (Ireland)        

I hope they don't decide to reformulate Ariel Pods in Europe now too. They smell very nice at the moment. I think the formulation is controlled by P&G Europe in France though, which is where most of their pods and liquids for Western and Northern European markets seem to come from.

I remember that time they redesigned the scent of Ariel powder quite a while ago now, and it was so strong it gave me a headache. I couldn't even tolerate a box being in the house.

I'd love to know what these companies are thinking with these new scents. For a while Ariel powder smelled a bit like a weird pine air freshener with a slight undertone of banana to my nose anyway.

The current Ariel pods in this market seem to have a fresh almost herbal smell, but it is a scent I would associate with fresh laundry and not crazy overpowering. So, for now, it's not too bad.

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