Thread Number: 81669
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Speed Queen AWN432 spinning slowly or not at all, replaced belt/pulley/pump/bracket/spring, plz help
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|Post# 1056770   1/7/2020 at 13:46 by RatCityAndRaine (Seattle)  || |
* Speed Queen AWN432 halts while or stops spinning and seeking diagnostic assistance.
* Bought it, within a year or two an overloaded load likely snapped the belt and the washer smoked. Tech came by a few times, unsure if the motor was replaced as they did not discuss with me.
* Clothes much wetter than I'd remembered, noticed slow or not spinning tub.
* Opened it up, saw a worn belt with some shredding, and a LOT of powdered or smokey rubber around (likely not cleaned up from original repair.)
* How it looks when agitating (seems stilted and slippy with the belt)
* Replaced already
o Whirlpool 201566P Washer Drain Pump
o Alliance Laundry Systems 959P3 Idler Lever Kit
o Belt, Idler bracket/pulley, spring
Where I'm at now:
* Found a sock between top of inner / outer tub, but removing did not resolve difficulty spinning
* Haven't yet pulled the idler bracket + spring to see if it speeds up
* I've attached an image of the motor pulley, the metal looks unfinished or scraped, perhaps it could introduce friction and slippage on the belt, eventually shredding along the way
* Unsure where I should go next with examination and parts replacement
1) Should I disassemble the tub to check for stuck socks? Drainage is fine.
2) Could there be other transmission concerns, sticky bearings or brake?
3) Could there be a tub seal issue as well causing friction?
4) Are there any motor concerns I ought to be aware of?
Mine is just over the 3 year warranty so I'd love to know the most common things to check without field stripping the entire dang thing, happy to capture more video of the operation.
I bought this thing for sustainability under the impression that less moving parts would less hassle for service and it's been frustrating even in the short term.
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|Post# 1056772 , Reply# 1   1/7/2020 at 14:04 by RP2813 (Sannazay)  || |
These machines are notorious for eating belts in relatively short order.
The rest of what you're describing seems unusual, as SQ machines have good longevity other than their appetite for belts.
Others here will be able to suggest what may be causing the bigger problems and what, if anything, you may need to replace. It would be a good idea to police the overloading situation. That's hard on any make of washer and it's possible there's more than just that one sock that ended up in between the tubs.
|Post# 1056781 , Reply# 2   1/7/2020 at 15:27 by RatCityAndRaine (Seattle)  || |
"It would be a good idea to police the overloading situation"
Absolutely! I've explained reasonable limits and will reiterate once this particular problem is solved :)
"The rest of what you're describing seems unusual, as SQ machines have good longevity other than their appetite for belts."
Yeah, there are a good many variables and I want to isolate and *selectively* disassemble, while I'm relatively handy I'd rather not potentially introduce another problem while broadly looking for another (and without knowing what to look for!)
|Post# 1056791 , Reply# 3   1/7/2020 at 18:33 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)  || |
Look at the belt when running, pull on the idler when spinning, if it spins normally then replace Idler assembly and belt if worn.
If it still won't get up to speed in spin [ washer should whistle when spinning at high speed with no clothing in basket ] you may still have something stuck between tubs.
These washers are pretty rugged, but they are not simple mechanically or easy to do many repairs on. If you want simple and easy to repair plus best reliability get the SQ Front Load Machine, it is a far better washer, it does 50% more laundry per load while using 1/3 the water and it gets things cleaner and drier.
|Post# 1056919 , Reply# 4   1/8/2020 at 18:24 by RatCityAndRaine (Seattle)  || |
"Look at the belt when running, pull on the idler when spinning, if it spins normally then replace Idler assembly and belt if worn."
Idler assembly and belt have been swapped.
"If it still won't get up to speed in spin [ washer should whistle when spinning at high speed with no clothing in basket ] you may still have something stuck between tubs."
O-K! I removed the inner tub and there's nothing stuck.
I noticed that it occasionally spins, it's often stuck and very difficult to turn, or if I get it going it can spin at at least at a higher speed.
Is this the transmission, a sticky brake, or a motor problem?
Is there a good way for me to diagnose any of these? I'm at my limit and about to just replace the motor itself. If it's not the problem at least I'll have a spare and can get the transmission replaced by someone else under warranty.
Thoughts appreciated :)
|Post# 1056928 , Reply# 5   1/8/2020 at 19:42 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)  || |
Hi, Try pulling on the idler and see if it spins properly, even though they have been replaced that does not guarantee they are adjusted-installed properly.
Save your money on another motor or transmission, those are never the cause of a slow spin, it could be bad top bearings and seal however, or the brakes dragging.