Thread Number: 81691
/ Tag: Vintage Dryers
Polit light will not stay lit after letting up the red lever on a Maytag DG606 |
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Post# 1057020 , Reply# 1   1/9/2020 at 13:44 (1,174 days old) by RP2813 ![]() |
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Post# 1057029 , Reply# 2   1/9/2020 at 14:10 (1,174 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Here is what the thermocouple looks like. I don't know if the ones in the hardware store will work? |
Post# 1057041 , Reply# 3   1/9/2020 at 16:11 (1,173 days old) by RP2813 ![]() |
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![]() OK, we'll need to wait for the SMEs to check in. Thermocouples I'm familiar with have a lead with two spade connectors. The arrangement on that valve is something I've never seen or dealt with before. If it's some sort of proprietary Maytag thing, you may have trouble locating a replacement, but let's wait for others to reply here. |
Post# 1057059 , Reply# 4   1/9/2020 at 18:27 (1,173 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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I have the a Maytag DG606 that was converted to a Maytag DG306 timed drying dryer and it’s been in daily use since June of 2019. Thankfully everything works on the burner and haven’t had any issues with the pilot staying lit on mine.
Here’s the pilot light instructions on the small access panel
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Post# 1057060 , Reply# 5   1/9/2020 at 18:29 (1,173 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Even have a video showing the burner turning on, on my Maytag DG306
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Post# 1057139 , Reply# 6   1/10/2020 at 12:09 (1,173 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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It is a bad thermocouple. Here is a picture of it. Now the job is finding it. That is where you guys come in. |
Post# 1057145 , Reply# 7   1/10/2020 at 13:12 (1,173 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1057149 , Reply# 8   1/10/2020 at 14:11 (1,173 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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574369 WF I thought I saw a date of 1983 could that be true? |
Post# 1057152 , Reply# 9   1/10/2020 at 15:17 (1,173 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1057153 , Reply# 10   1/10/2020 at 15:26 (1,173 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Here is the part you are looking for. If you are not familiar with the workings of a gas appliance, I would recommend you having someone who is install this part. Even a tiny gas leak could cause a fire, explosion, or worse. On a lighter note I hope this info helps and you are able to get your 45 year old Maytag back into service.
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Post# 1057161 , Reply# 11   1/10/2020 at 16:26 (1,172 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Thank You I will give that part a try. |
Post# 1057182 , Reply# 12   1/10/2020 at 20:37 (1,172 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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![]() This part is not a thermocouple, you can not find them at hardware stores or plumbing supply houses.
It is instead a pilot safety, it has Mercury in it, the pilots heat makes the mercury expand and apply pressure on the round bellow end and this holds the gas valve open as long as the pilot stays lit, if the pilot goes out this safety will close the gas valve within 15 seconds.
The one pictured on Ebay is not exactly the same, but you can probably drill out the rivets and use it on your dryer.
These are fairly easy to install and you are unlikely to cause any gas leaks etc doing so, just check your work with a soap bubble solution if you have any concerns.
Also follow the instructions for adjusting the new safety, after you get it all working be sure to test the adjustment by blowing out the pilot and gas flow to the pilot and main burner should stop in 15 seconds or so.
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Post# 1057287 , Reply# 13   1/11/2020 at 19:21 (1,171 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Thank You combo52 |
Post# 1057587 , Reply# 15   1/14/2020 at 17:03 (1,168 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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The Steel plug screwed into the valve body is a test point to test the gas pressure in the valve after the pressure regulator, I have never used one.
The pilot flame size is not adjustable, the tiny pilot orifice regulates the pilot gas flow, if the pilot is too large you might have to replace this part, are you operating this dryer on Natural or propane gas ? John L. |
Post# 1057598 , Reply# 16   1/14/2020 at 18:02 (1,168 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Natural Gas |
Post# 1057614 , Reply# 18   1/14/2020 at 21:22 (1,168 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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![]() That does look about right, A pilot on a gas dryer like will burn $3-6 dollars of gas a month and about twice that dollar amount if you have propane.
If you only do laundry once a week or so you are wise to turn off the gas between laundry days, both to save money and to save the damage to many dryer components that the moisture and other combustion products that the constant burning pilot causes.
John L. |
Post# 1057616 , Reply# 19   1/14/2020 at 21:32 (1,168 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1057656 , Reply# 20   1/15/2020 at 12:25 (1,168 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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One thing AW user QSD-DAN pointed out to me is the constant burning pilot lights tend to weaken the high limit thermostats and will cause the burner to cycle below the cycling thermostat. Not sure if that happened to all gas HOH dryers but mine tends to cycle the burner below the cycling thermostat at times but it doesn’t really do it when I dry smaller loads in my Maytag DG306
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Post# 1057914 , Reply# 22   1/17/2020 at 14:24 (1,166 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 1057915 , Reply# 23   1/17/2020 at 14:25 (1,166 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 1057924 , Reply# 24   1/17/2020 at 15:07 (1,166 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Maytag85 can you show me where to add the oil and what kind of oil? |
Post# 1057927 , Reply# 25   1/17/2020 at 16:00 (1,165 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Most people on here recommend turbine oil such as Zoom Spout, but I use Shell motor oil to oil my Maytag DG306 bearing and have no issues what so ever with the 15W-40 Shell oil
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Post# 1057928 , Reply# 26   1/17/2020 at 16:11 (1,165 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Here’s a thread showing the drum bearing of a Maytag DE806, and the DG606 is basically the same dryer minus the back lit panel. Make sure to not let the carbon brush fly away, and hold down the carbon brush assembly while removing the bolt that holds it down to the back of drum where it rides along the slip ring
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Post# 1057937 , Reply# 27   1/17/2020 at 17:00 (1,165 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Thank You Maytag85 Now I am thinking how is a newbie going to do this? |
Post# 1057938 , Reply# 28   1/17/2020 at 17:02 (1,165 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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I wonder if it is frozen is it shot or will the oil bring it back to life? |
Post# 1057949 , Reply# 29   1/17/2020 at 17:37 (1,165 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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I’d give it a try to bring it back to life. These Maytag Halo Of Heat dryers can be tricky but are worth bringing back to life since they’ll just about outlast most dryer made today, and are quieter than most of the dryer made today. You will have to take the entire dryer apart to oil the bearing, and you will have to oil the blower/fan since they’ll make a racket when they aren’t oiled.
While everything is apart I’d paint the base and clean up everything as much as possible before putting it back together, and make sure the outer felt seal is in good condition. If the outer felt seal becomes compromised the blower/fan won’t pull the flame through the burner and the high limit thermostat will kick the burner off until it cools down. Belt tension also can cause the burner to turn off because there isn’t enough air flow through the burner. Here’s my Maytag A606 and DG306 I use as my daily use machines and haven’t had any issues with them since I put them into service last summer
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Post# 1057964 , Reply# 30   1/17/2020 at 19:18 (1,165 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Paging QSD-DAN! Paging QSD-DAN! Will the oil unfreeze the bearing. |
Post# 1057967 , Reply# 31   1/17/2020 at 19:37 (1,165 days old) by LowEfficiency ![]() |
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![]() >> I put a load of clothes in the dryer turned it on. It ran for an hour. I opened it up the clothes never moved. >> Took the back off. The drum is froze it will not move. I ever tried to move it by hand but it would not. >> I need your guys help with this as a newbie. First things first, something I learned the hard way when restoring my DE806, is that the Halo-of-Heat dryer cabinet relies on the rear panel for holding the cabinet square. If you attempt to run one of these dryers with the back off, the cabinet flexes enough to contact the side of the drum. In my case, it made an absolutely terrible noise. I'm not sure if that misalignment could make it bind enough to not turn by hand, but it certainly wouldn't help. You say it ran for an hour but the clothes didn't move? If the motor was running, then at least one of the belts would have to be slipping over a stuck pulley, or a pulley spinning against a stuck belt. It would have made a noise or smell for sure. ... Or did the motor not turn? is your drum free, but a frozen motor holding it still? |
Post# 1057970 , Reply# 32   1/17/2020 at 20:27 (1,165 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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![]() Hi Robert, you just need to take the back off and see what is not turning, it is a pretty simple system.
The blower bearing could be tight, the main shaft could be tight, the best oil for either of these items would be light machine oil, multi weight motor probably would work but a lighter non-detergent machine oil is preferred.
When you move this dryer away from the wall position the dryer where you want to work on it and run it. If it is not sitting level before you remove the back panel put a shim under a leveling foot so the machine is sitting on all four feet [ it does not have to be level ] this way the drum will not be out of alignment and you can run the dryer with the back off.
Let us know what you find.
Are you fixing this dryer because you have the matching washer or are you just sentimental about this dryer ?
There are much better performing, safer and more reliable vintage gas dryers out there if you are just into great vintage appliances.
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Post# 1057984 , Reply# 34   1/17/2020 at 22:20 (1,165 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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I thought fixing it would be cheaper than a new dryer. I thought it would be easier. The flet is loose also maybe a half inch is that a problem? |
Post# 1058390 , Reply# 35   1/22/2020 at 14:14 (1,161 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Got the main bearing off and oiled. But I have a few question what should be between picture one and two? An o ring or flat washer? I think it is missing something but I am not sure? How do you repair the felt in picture three? |
Post# 1058391 , Reply# 36   1/22/2020 at 14:16 (1,161 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Picture on is the back of the blower fan. |
Post# 1058420 , Reply# 37   1/22/2020 at 18:22 (1,160 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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![]() There is normally a white nylon spacer on the drum shaft before the blower goes on.
The small gap in the front felt is not bg enough to cause any problem, there is supposed to be a 1" wide tension felt band around the wide one you pictured to hold the wide felt against the rotating drum.
What was sized, the drum bearings or the blower bearings ?
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Post# 1058438 , Reply# 38   1/22/2020 at 20:15 (1,160 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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The the drum bearings were sized. The felt is not on that metal part for about 8 inches how do you fix that? Will high temperature adhesive work for the felt to the metal? How thick is that white nylon spacer? |
Post# 1058443 , Reply# 39   1/22/2020 at 21:00 (1,160 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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How about trying some J-B WELD epoxy to stick in on? It is rated to 600 degrees. |
Post# 1058492 , Reply# 40   1/23/2020 at 07:52 (1,160 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Anybody know? |
Post# 1058511 , Reply# 41   1/23/2020 at 11:35 (1,160 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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I have a white nylon spacer like this one the front of the blower fan should there be one on the back also? |
Post# 1058535 , Reply# 42   1/23/2020 at 15:34 (1,160 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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The felt will definitely need to be replaced eventually. When the felt seal is compromised, it won’t allow for the burner to stay on for very long and will kick off the burner. You can make a new felt feel for it out of new felt, and one thing I did was is I used steel wire to basically make new staples to hold the felt onto the shroud, and so far it’s held up very well. I also use a long piece of felt Weather stripping and I put that around the larger out felt seal to put tension on it, and I use a paper clip to hold everything together and I’ve have no issues with that either. John suggested I glue the smaller felt strip onto the outer felt seal but I didn’t want to put glue onto the new outer felt seal, but I want to make it easier to put back together when I disassemble my Maytag DG306 for cleaning and piling of the bearings and such.
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Post# 1058550 , Reply# 43   1/23/2020 at 18:08 (1,159 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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Post# 1059592 , Reply# 44   2/4/2020 at 15:33 (1,148 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Working on the felt now. How tight should the felt be around the drum? |
Post# 1059615 , Reply# 45   2/4/2020 at 18:40 (1,147 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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Post# 1061440 , Reply# 47   2/24/2020 at 18:19 (1,127 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Listen to that. |
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Post# 1061460 , Reply# 51   2/24/2020 at 21:15 (1,127 days old) by LowEfficiency ![]() |
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Post# 1061463 , Reply# 52   2/24/2020 at 22:05 (1,127 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Try this link |
Post# 1061497 , Reply# 53   2/25/2020 at 07:41 (1,127 days old) by Combo52 ![]() |
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The drum is scraping either on the front burner shroud or the cabinet when you take the back panel off these dryers the whole thing goes catty Wompus and out of alignment.
It’s always important to have the all 4 feet sitting solidly on the floor before you remove the back and then don’t move the dryer after you’ve done that but it will realign when you put the back back on maybe it’ll work. John |
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Post# 1061520 , Reply# 55   2/25/2020 at 12:41 (1,127 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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My Maytag DG306 did something similar but the thing that was scraping was the makeshift felt I made for it. Tried using felt weather stripping but that didn’t work but here’s my HOH with the rear panel removed and this was the first power up of it a week after I got it
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Post# 1068915 , Reply# 56   4/23/2020 at 20:45 (1,068 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Thanks everybody. After working on it for about a week it runs great. One more question on a DG606 about how long should gas burner run for each cycle when drying clothes? |
Post# 1068935 , Reply# 57   4/23/2020 at 22:29 (1,068 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Should run for a good 30 to 40 minutes before cycling off but I recently had to replace the cycling thermostat on my Maytag DG606 I converted to a DG306 since it was stuck and wouldn’t really want to cycle off the heat and I am borrowing the low heat cycling thermostat off of my Maytag DG810 from 1981 until I source a 120F low heat thermostat.
A large load/extra large of towels takes 75 minutes to dry in my DG306 and 60 to 65 minutes for a normal/large load of towels |
Post# 1068940 , Reply# 58   4/23/2020 at 23:12 (1,068 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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![]() On either an electric or gas version the heat should not cycle off at all till the clothes are nearly dry with a normal sized load, if the load is going to take 60 minutes to dry the heat should stay on for around 45-55 minutes.
A very small load may allow the exhaust thermostat to get hot enough to cycle off before the clothing is nearly dry.
If the burner is cycling 10 minutes or so into the drying cycle [ very common problem with a MT HOH gas dryer ] and possible with any dryer there could be a number of problems allowing the dryers safety thermostat to cycle.
Most common problems are long exhaust vent, clogged or restricted vent system [ the first thing to try with this problem is to try running the dryer with no vent and see how it behaves.
Common MT gas HOH problems that cause this are bad front felt seals, bad safety thermostat, worn motor pulley that is slipping, worn pulley groove on the blower pulley, replace either the motor pulley or the blower.
Of corse the dryer needs belts that are not worn out and the blower bearing should be clean and oiled and the blower housing needs to be clean.
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Post# 1068945 , Reply# 59   4/23/2020 at 23:44 (1,068 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Interesting thing is I don’t hear the high limit thermostat click off on my DG306 unless the lint screen is full, and I did a quick test with the 120F low heat thermostat and the burner cycled 2 times on 10 a minute dry time with no clothes.
John do you know where I can find a 120F low heat thermostat? Borrowing the low heat thermostat off of my Maytag DG810 until I can find a replacement since the thermostat since it’s stuck closed and didn’t really want to cycle the heat off |
Post# 1069010 , Reply# 60   4/24/2020 at 08:43 (1,068 days old) by jeff_adelphi ![]() |
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Post# 1069016 , Reply# 61   4/24/2020 at 09:15 (1,068 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Thanks a dried a couple of towels. I pulled them out after about 45 minutes. They were dry. I did not wait for the bell to go off. I think the burner was on all the time but that sound about normal. |
Post# 1069017 , Reply# 62   4/24/2020 at 09:22 (1,068 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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I replaced the thermostat the new one rated 130 the old one was 135 or 140. |
Post# 1069018 , Reply# 63   4/24/2020 at 09:22 (1,068 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Is that ok? |
Post# 1069023 , Reply# 64   4/24/2020 at 09:57 (1,068 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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One of the previous owners wired the two wires together that go to the thermostat that is in the burner. Will that hurt anything? What does that thermostat do? |
Post# 1069025 , Reply# 65   4/24/2020 at 10:08 (1,068 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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Post# 1069034 , Reply# 66   4/24/2020 at 11:00 (1,068 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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I did not know it did that. It is in the burner chamber about six inches out from where the main flame comes out. |
Post# 1069035 , Reply# 67   4/24/2020 at 11:01 (1,068 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Does it turn the flame off if it gets to hot? |
Post# 1069037 , Reply# 68   4/24/2020 at 11:45 (1,068 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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You can see it in the third picture down. |
Post# 1069039 , Reply# 69   4/24/2020 at 12:09 (1,068 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Sorry make that the forth picture down. |
Post# 1069042 , Reply# 70   4/24/2020 at 12:29 (1,068 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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The high limit thermostat on these dryers cuts out at 210F I believe and the reason why they are so sensitive is since the burner is a inch away from a 3” wide felt seal and even a full lint screen on these dryers will cause it to trip since it’s that sensitive.
Haven’t had any issues with high limit thermostat on my Maytag DG306 but one thing AW user QSD-DAN pointed out to me is the standing pilot can cause the bimetallic metal inside the high limit thermostat to get weak and will cycle the burner below operating thermostat temperature and I am not sure if that happened to all gas HOH dryers but that is what QSD-DAN pointed out to me when I created the thread about my 1973 Maytag A606 and DG606 (DG306) I acquired last year |
Post# 1069045 , Reply# 71   4/24/2020 at 12:45 (1,068 days old) by qsd-dan ![]() |
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I agree with combo52, get that high limit thermostat in the circuit PRONTO, you're asking for trouble!
High Limit Thermo https://www.ebay.com/itm/Maytag-301451-H... Cycling Thermo https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Maytag-... The cool down thermo should be a 303394, verify it's the correct one. |
Post# 1069073 , Reply# 72   4/24/2020 at 15:55 (1,068 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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A big Thanks qsd-dan super helpful. |
Post# 1075684 , Reply# 73   6/4/2020 at 12:57 (1,027 days old) by fanofjesus (Kansas)   |   | |
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Should all the thermostats read close to 0 if good and read 1 if bad on a multi-meter? |
Post# 1075726 , Reply# 74   6/4/2020 at 18:17 (1,026 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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