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Post# 1057305   1/12/2020 at 02:18 by RevvinKevin (So. Cal.)        

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A week ago my hubby found this machine listed on FB marketplace and forwarded it to me.  In the ad the seller stated "Only asking $60 because I think some of the cycles aren't functioning properly."  


When messaging with the seller he said: "it doesn't work properly, it doesn't get my clothes clean".  So after work I drove an hour to go look at it.  It was sitting in the driveway (behind a gate) under a tarp.   The seller said he moved it out there 6 month ago after buying "a cheaper washer" to replace it.  He also told me he paid $3000 for it!


As we stood there talking about it, he pointed to the "Woolens" cycle button and said "this is the one I use".  I thought "why would you use that cycle?"  After paying him $50 (I waited 45 mins for him to get home)... I moved it to my truck to load it.  As I was moving it I noticed the plug on the power cord "What? Wow, this one uses 120V instead of 240V!!"  


As soon as I got home I unloaded it, hooked it up and .... long story shorter?  There is NOTHING wrong with it, it works perfectly, he was just using the wrong cycle!


The following day I called Miele and gave them the serial #.    They said it was sold on July 24, 2013, making it 6 1/2 years old.... meaning he used it only 6 years before replacing it!   


So even though you've probably already skipped ahead to the photos, I introduce you to my Miele W3035 washer in stainless!  Miele said this is the first model (for the American market) to use 120V rather than 240V like previous models and it was in production from 2007 thru 2013.  


It has 18 cycles(!) Normal, Wrinkle-free, Sanitize (170 degrees!), Hand wash, Woolens, Silk, Custom (all temps, options and speeds available), the rest are accessed through the Master Care menu: Extra white, Delicates, Denim/jeans, Dress shirts, Pillows, Outerwear, Table linens, Beach towels (for removing sand), Express wash (31 mins), Drain/spin and Quick rinse (2 deep rinses - 17 mins).


Photo #5 is the "normal" cycle w/o options, 1 hr 5 mins.   Photo #6 is "the twins".  The washer on the left is a 14-15 years old W1215.  This is a 240V machine and will do a 190 degrees sanitize wash, but doesn't have as many cycles, nor does not have "rinse only" or "drain & spin" options.  I still love it though!   FYI: the difference in the tub light color is due to the W1215 incandescent bulb (left) vs. the W3035 LED bulb (right).



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Post# 1057307 , Reply# 1   1/12/2020 at 04:19 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Great Miele find there Kevin, youre going to enjoy using both I`m sure, and a great set in Stainless Steel as thats now been discontinued.

I wonder what his thinking was in just using the woollens cycle, or was it someone else using the machine ??

Post# 1057325 , Reply# 2   1/12/2020 at 08:35 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Great Find Kevin

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The sellers experience is not that unusual I have talked at least a dozen customers into keeping Miele washers and dryers that were ready to ditch them.


We often see Mieles , Bosch and Asko washers and dryers on the scrap piles and have sometimes brought them to the shop and fixed them, lately I have not bothered as they are hard to sell or place in homes. we currently have a stacked Miele pair and an Asko washer that needs a home, all are 240 volt.


I am sure you will have fun with these, in a two person household with several washers these will last a good long time.


John L.

Post# 1057362 , Reply# 3   1/12/2020 at 11:34 by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

"Washer is not cleaning clothes well"

It reminds me the other Miele you saved, Kevin.

The previous owner used only Ecover or whatever Wholefoods super expensive Eco-friendly water with some bubbles, no dyes, no harsh chemicals, no enzymes, no phosphates no noting.
That washer was stinking like sewer!

Now this Miele... "not cleaning well". and during the several cleaning cycles tons fo shmutz being drained.

What's wrong with people? Sometimes I feel like the richer they are (as they can afford a Miele and super expensive detergents) the DUMBEST they are.

By the Schmutz, i wonder if the previous owner EVER used hot water.

Other thing that I can't understand (well, I understand but it doesn't make any sense to me) is why so many people here in the USA is DESPERATE for super quick cycles. I constantly receive emails from customers asking if it's ok to put detergent and select "rinse only" because the cycle will then be quicker. or sending emails complaining that the "super heavy duty" cycle is too long and suggesting me to make a "super heavy duty cycle" that can wash and rinse in under 20 minutes. Then I say "Well, the washer also has other cycles, including a quick wash" and they reply "Yes, I know, but the super heavy duty cleans better than the quick cycle when the load is too dirty, but it takes too long (56 minutes) can you send me a timer that has a super heavy duty cycle that is short like the quick cycle?

Post# 1057364 , Reply# 4   1/12/2020 at 11:43 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Lotta folks out in the wild have no clue how to do laundry ...

Post# 1057384 , Reply# 5   1/12/2020 at 16:50 by RevvinKevin (So. Cal.)        
Thanks guys!

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Mike: He was the only one using it as he lives alone. I didn’t flat out ask him why he used the woolens (or “whallons” as Siri spells it, LOL) cycle, even though I really wanted to. But I can only assume because it’s shorter than the “normal” cycle, 39 mins vs. 1 hr 5 mins. (I did start the woolens cycle to check it and it turns the drum 1 revolution each 36 seconds.)


John: Thanks! I really like the Miele’s and have been using the one every week!


Thomas: The owner of the other Miele you’re referring to (on the left) were NOT unhappy with machine, they were just using me WRONG super-bio-nonGMO-eco-friendly detergent that caused the pump, drain hose and standpipe it drained into to smell really horrible like a sewer! The reason they sold them is because they were moving to Northern California.


Glenn: You are SO right!


One thing I noticed, but didn’t think anything about it until today, is how deep these two washers are.  I measured to confirm... the older W1215 is 4.5 inches deeper than the newer W3035, 28” vs. 23.5” respectively.



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Post# 1057395 , Reply# 6   1/12/2020 at 18:39 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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"Other thing that I can't understand (well, I understand but it doesn't make any sense to me) is why so many people here in the USA is DESPERATE for super quick cycles. "

Simple answer as with most other laundry queries is that Americans long were used to top loading automatics with their "quick" cycles.

Fourteen (14) minutes of washing, spin, rinse (about four to five minutes), final spin, everything done in about one half our or less.

Early reviews/consumer testing of European front loaders ragged on all of them for excessively long cycle times. Comments such as "be prepared for washer to hold your laundry hostage for over an hour....).

This being said commercial/laundromat washers manage rather well with a "normal" cycle of 31 minutes give or take.

Post# 1057403 , Reply# 7   1/12/2020 at 20:25 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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One reason have not wholly embraced this "plant based" or whatever green detergent movement is cannot imagine what those liquids do to inside of washers. Worse if they are part of a steady diet of lukewarm to cold water washing.

Yes,will use soap or liquids from time to time. But am careful balance usage with good old fashioned laundry detergent powder. Something that contains a decent amount of washing soda (not not overly) to not only get wash clean, but keep gunk and muck from building up in machine.

Post# 1057414 , Reply# 8   1/12/2020 at 22:44 by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

Congrats! I always like getting such great deals like that from uninformed operators. Enjoy!

Post# 1057417 , Reply# 9   1/13/2020 at 00:05 by RevvinKevin (So. Cal.)        
P.S. Thomas.....

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This W3035 was not nearly as dirty and “yucky” as the W1215 was when I brought it home!

Post# 1057424 , Reply# 10   1/13/2020 at 03:13 by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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Try washing "normal" large and heavy loads on a daily basis using the woolens cycle in any other washer than a Miele and you`ll see the motor burn out in no time...

Post# 1057456 , Reply# 11   1/13/2020 at 11:01 by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
if i had a choice and because of saving $$$

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if for budget reason a top load would cost lest i would go back to a top load washer and i also heard that top load washers are taking back there number 1 spot in the market pics where google but 1 of these 2 models would be my choice

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Post# 1058170 , Reply# 12   1/19/2020 at 23:56 by dartman (Portland Oregon)        

When my Kenmore he machine is working right its dead quiet practically, cleans well enough, and saves me a bunch on my overpriced water bill. It's also way bigger load wise than my old direct drive top loader so I don't really care how long it takes because it does a lot more per load. Too bad the reliability isn't as good as the old tank it replaced but most of the main failure parts are cheap enough.

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