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Post# 1057528   1/14/2020 at 04:42 (1,556 days old) by Timborow (Georgia)        

I have a Speed Queen top load washer. Purchased in 2012 and it has worked very well. On Saturday, the washer was working fine, but Sunday it wouldn’t spin. The agitation is fine during wash cycle, but when the timer advances to spin/drain it just hums. It will not spin water out. I have moved the timer. I have unplugged machine to reset. Nothing changes. Technician came yesterday and he said it was the transmission. Not that I don’t trust him, but does this sound accurate? It seems, to me, that if the transmission was bad, it wouldn’t agitate either. I’d just like to hear if anyone else has had this experience.

I contacted Speed Queen about warranty. I’m waiting to hear back from them. I sure hope it can be repaired and put back into service. It’s a great washer.

Tim





Post# 1057531 , Reply# 1   1/14/2020 at 05:44 (1,556 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Does the motor hum in spin? Does it drain water out?


I want to say the brake is seizing, the transmission does little during spin as the case just transfers motion to the tub.


Post# 1057536 , Reply# 2   1/14/2020 at 07:16 (1,556 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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"It's the transmission" sometimes is code for "it'll cost too much to fix" and/or "we don't want to mess with it."


Post# 1057539 , Reply# 3   1/14/2020 at 07:52 (1,556 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
It Is Not A Bad Transmission

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And yes the transmission is still under a 10 years warranty.

 

You may have something stuck in the water pump, did the tech remove the pump from the motor to check, if the motor still will not run it is likely a bad timer.

 

John L.


Post# 1057582 , Reply# 4   1/14/2020 at 16:41 (1,556 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        

As John said it’s not the transmission. The sq transmission has only one function, to agitate. Based on your initial post , you can 100% confirm that the transmission is fine.

Post# 1057608 , Reply# 5   1/14/2020 at 19:42 (1,556 days old) by Timborow (Georgia)        
Thanks

I knew you all would have some input, and I appreciate it very much. I found it very odd that he said it was the transmission so quickly. The machine fills with water and agitates. When the timer goes to spin, it doesn’t drain or spin. (I had to dip water out with a cup.) Eugene, I watch your videos very often, and I trust your opinion completely. I’m pretty handy and I’m not afraid to attempt a repair. Should I look for something in the pump and remove it? I’ve never done anything with brake system, so that will take definitely take some YouTubing on my part. I think I can replace timer if that’s the problem.

Thanks again for the advice.

Tim


Post# 1057615 , Reply# 6   1/14/2020 at 21:27 (1,556 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Hi Tim, Snap the pump off the motor, if it starts and spins now look for something stuck in the pump, if the motor still just hums replace the timer.

 

John L.


Post# 1057618 , Reply# 7   1/14/2020 at 22:43 (1,556 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        

“It’s the transmission” is the classic excuse. It translates to “I don’t know what’s wrong” or “I’m running behind schedule so I need to just condemn”

Like John mentioned, detach the pump from the motor to make sure it’s not jammed up. If it agitates generally the motor will give a quarter turn or so before the sock binds things up again. Timers fail often, very rarely the motor.


Post# 1057631 , Reply# 8   1/15/2020 at 04:34 (1,555 days old) by Timborow (Georgia)        

Thank you John and Eugene. I will begin working on it this weekend. I found a Maytag Performa made in Newton, Iowa for $100 yesterday. Cleaned it up and it’s chugging away to get us through until the SQ is fixed. I appreciate all of your advice. (I’d say this Maytag washes as well as the SQ and is extremely quiet.)

Tim


Post# 1057639 , Reply# 9   1/15/2020 at 07:07 (1,555 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Its not the brake then- as said either something is inside the pump or the motor isn't turning in spin mode.

What is the model number Some TOL Speed Queens had an issue where the timer would not put the motor into spin.


Post# 1057640 , Reply# 10   1/15/2020 at 07:12 (1,555 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Maytag Performa Washer

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Hi Tim, is the MT a one belt or two belt washer ?, most of the Performas were a Norge design and not built in Newton, the Norge design worked well and only has one belt.

 

John L.


Post# 1057678 , Reply# 11   1/15/2020 at 16:11 (1,555 days old) by Timborow (Georgia)        
Model Numbers

Speed Queen is AWN542

Maytag is PAV2300AWW The tag says Newton,Iowa. I didn’t look to see if it was one belt or two, but I’m thinking it was just 1 belt.

Tim


Post# 1057694 , Reply# 12   1/15/2020 at 16:56 (1,555 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Post# 1057710 , Reply# 13   1/15/2020 at 19:42 (1,555 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Maytag Performa Washer

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Hi Tim, That is a Norge style machine, they are good performers actually a little better than the real two belt MTs, they are just not nearly as durable or very repairable when things really go wrong, selling that machine is one of about a dozen major mistakes MT made and ended up ruining a 100 years old company, this is often the problem with old boy inbred management.

 

John L.


Post# 1057722 , Reply# 14   1/15/2020 at 20:12 (1,555 days old) by Timborow (Georgia)        
Problem Solved-HOPEFULLY

I decided to drop the drain pump on the SQ tonight. I cleaned it, rinsed it out, and put it back on. There must’ve been something causing it to seize. I didn’t find a sock or anything. It was actually pretty clean. Anyway, I put the machine into spin and it kicked right in. I’ll hook it back to water and test it tomorrow. It spun just like it’s supposed to. Definitely not a transmission issue I would say. Thanks for all the help.

Tim


Post# 1057773 , Reply# 15   1/16/2020 at 09:36 (1,554 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

If you paid for that service call, you should raise hell and get your money back.


Post# 1057867 , Reply# 16   1/17/2020 at 04:31 (1,553 days old) by Timborow (Georgia)        
Service Call

He didn’t charge for service call. I guess he was going to include that in the final bill after he installed transmission. He’s actually not a bad guy. I’m just a little confused as to why this happened. Anyway, my washer is working like it’s supposed to for now.

Post# 1057875 , Reply# 17   1/17/2020 at 05:50 (1,553 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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now that you have found the 'cause', it seems like the pump was binding somewhere along the lines....

I would order a new one and replace it....

stick with an OEM, not a generic one....



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