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New to me KitchenAid KUDI01IL dishwasher
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Post# 1059924   2/7/2020 at 23:40 (1,533 days old) by Moonshiner180 (Missouri)        

Hello everyone! I originally made a post in the Imperial section asking about a dishwasher found at a local fleamarket. After waiting a week and looking online for something with dual wash arms instead of the pop up sprayer, I found this KitchenAid dishwasher with the dual arms and stainless tub for $25, and made the 90 mile trip to go get it today. To my surprise when I got there, the gentleman selling the unit was nice and just wanted it out of the way, and since it had been sitting in his garage a while he didn't feel comfortable taking my money, so I now have a free dishwasher! I cleaned it up some and am currently running a cycle with baking soda after having ran one with vinegar, just to make sure it's ready to go. So far I like the features and design, my only real issue I see to look to attending to is the sprayer at the top of the tub has come detached a bit and hangs down, which interferes with the top rack sliding back into the machine unless lifted out of the way.

Any comments, advice, pros/cons of the particular model are appreciated! Thanks!


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Post# 1059952 , Reply# 1   2/8/2020 at 09:27 (1,532 days old) by Moonshiner180 (Missouri)        

Update: did not realize the top of the machine was dented, looked at it this morning, 2-3 love taps with the mallet, and the top sprayer is where it's supposed to be

Post# 1059955 , Reply# 2   2/8/2020 at 09:42 (1,532 days old) by Cam2s (Nebraska)        
Tall tub

What you have is a newer Whirlpool built tall tub. This runs off of Whirlpools point voyager platform. I had one of these before my Bosch. In my experience it was an OK machine. I didn’t find it too be particular outstanding, but it got the job done. Mine had the soil sensor system. As food soils accumulated in the holding chamber it would create back pressure in the drain pipe and trip it to perform a purge. The purge would empty the soil accumulator and then refill with a small amount of water. Mine was a near TOL machine, not sure if the lower end machines used the system or not. The constant rinse should just clip into the tub.

Cameron.


Post# 1059958 , Reply# 3   2/8/2020 at 10:12 (1,532 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
New DW

Congrats. Seems like a decent machine for $25.
We had a point voyager machine for about 7 years. It was decent, but it always required using the High Temperature wash to clean well, but that also forces two rinses instead of a purge and the final heated rinse. The rinsing results with the purge and final rinse left quite a bit to be desired. Your machine is likely the same way.
The heavy cycle on this machine might still do a heated prewash. That likely will remove anything you throw at it. I did, however, really like the purge that occurred during the prewash if the soil level was high, as Cam2S mentioned.
I had a few issues with my point voyager DW. 1.) The spray force was not enough. This meant that we had to use the best detergent with STPP added, high temperature wash and sanitize rinse, and that the machine needed to run a longer cycle, such as pots and pans to really scrub things clean. 2.) The heated dry did nothing besides waste electric. The sanitize rinse was more effective in drying. 3.) It was very loud. Despite having QuietPartnerIII, our machine was too loud to run during dinner or at night. I always thought there was some insulation or a panel missing. 4.) You can't use rinse aid in these machines while using a sudsy detergent. For some reason it dispenses a little rinse aid in the wash, and that ruins wash performance due to all the suds and cavitation. 5.) After the 7 years, our racks were rusted, we had 2 seals for the upper rack disintegrated and end up in the sump.


Post# 1059963 , Reply# 4   2/8/2020 at 10:57 (1,532 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Link to Consumer Reference Manual

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This doesn't have any of the cycle charts.  I'll see if I can find a document that will have them.



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Post# 1059966 , Reply# 5   2/8/2020 at 11:13 (1,532 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Use and Care Guide

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This isn't the cleanest way to see the manual, but you can scroll through and see loading patterns as well as the cycle charts.  Yes, th8is has the heated prewash on the heavy cycle.  



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Post# 1059970 , Reply# 6   2/8/2020 at 12:24 (1,532 days old) by Moonshiner180 (Missouri)        

So far it's actually pretty nice and quiet, but the bar to beat was an older GE with the pop up sprayer, and no insulation at all on the tub... So It wouldn't take much to be an improvement. The top rinse sprayer is indeed clipped in, the top was just dented and I popped it out, and everything went back where it's supposed to be!is it alright to use the high temp option with plastic items like lids, Tupperware, cutting boards, etc?



Post# 1059971 , Reply# 7   2/8/2020 at 13:32 (1,532 days old) by Cam2s (Nebraska)        

I have never had any issues with plastics. The only thing I would say is to not force them into the racks. If you have to bend or deform them to get them in the heat might make the deformation permanent. As long as it’s laying in its natural shape it should be ok.

Post# 1059972 , Reply# 8   2/8/2020 at 13:34 (1,532 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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Yes, it definitely is. Some lighter plastic items I would not recommend putting on the bottom rack during the heated dry. If in doubt, just put it on the top rack.

Post# 1059975 , Reply# 9   2/8/2020 at 14:03 (1,532 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Yes, they should be fine.  If you put any plastic items in the bottom rack, make sure you do not select heated dry though.  


Post# 1060033 , Reply# 10   2/8/2020 at 22:32 (1,532 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        
Whirlpool Point Voyager

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I've had one of these since 2011.  I'd agree with the above comments in that it's a competent enough performer and I've been happy with it.

 

The key to good performance is to always select the "hi temp wash" on the normal cycle or just use the pots and pans (or "heavy" cycle on your machine.)

 

I don't have a cycle option for a heated pre-wash and the pre-wash on my model is ridiculously short.

 

So yours is better in my opinion.  You know how it is, they keep chipping away to make them use less energy.


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Post# 1060041 , Reply# 11   2/8/2020 at 23:59 (1,532 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
DW

My machine was very similar to the one posted in the image above. Mine had the Sensor Cycle and China instead of Light. It also had the powerscour option instead of soak and scour.
It’s prewash was about 10 mins. Quite long compared to the Bosch’s. It’s about 3?


Post# 1060080 , Reply# 12   2/9/2020 at 12:22 (1,531 days old) by rpms (ontario canada)        

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Nice machine. Can we see the top rack loaded? The sides of the top rack look really narrow for cups especially with the triangle tines.Must hold wine glasses well.

Post# 1060111 , Reply# 13   2/9/2020 at 20:41 (1,531 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        

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My Point Voyager doesn't have a cycle labeled "sensor cycle" but is very sensor-driven on the light and normal cycles. 

 

On the light cycle, the sensor will decide whether or not the load gets a pre-wash.  On the normal cycle, the sensor will decide how high to heat the main wash water (maybe not even to 120) if high-temp wash isn't selected.

 

The pots and pans cycle is more predictable, always a pre-wash and heated main wash to 140.

 

The issue I have with the purely sensor-driven cycles is that sometimes silverware doesn't get completely clean.


Post# 1060239 , Reply# 14   2/11/2020 at 08:39 (1,529 days old) by Moonshiner180 (Missouri)        

So far I'm very happy with it! Everything has been nice and clean coming out, with the exception of the blender bases after my wife makes her smoothies, but it would be a miracle if it got that off too! Lol...

I'll try to remember to get a pic next time I'm loading it



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