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Painting the embalming room at a funeral home.
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Post# 1061203   2/21/2020 at 12:08 (1,497 days old) by rpms (ontario canada)        

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Not nearly as creepy as it would be. Like a big laundry room with a big folding table.A drag Queen's dream when it came to cosmetics.

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Post# 1061229 , Reply# 1   2/21/2020 at 19:44 (1,497 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Is everybody creeped out or what?

 

Those "cosmetics" are a real eye opener closer.


Post# 1061242 , Reply# 2   2/21/2020 at 23:31 (1,497 days old) by TheSpiritOf76 (Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, and OZ All Together. )        
Eye Opener.....

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*strike* closer.....LOL...Brilliant!

Post# 1061244 , Reply# 3   2/22/2020 at 01:21 (1,497 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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I wish saved my Lego building of the Cockfield Funeral Home on 8-Mile Rd.we used to pass by, and viewed a lamp in an upstairs visitation room with a circular fluorescent light in there, which would be the only light on in the otherwise dark building, seeing as the place was closed at the time when we drove by it...

"Lady Attendant" the yellow pages stated...

It's now an auto parts shop (boasting an upstairs) as my Lego structure must have turned into some other type of business (road house, restaurant, gas station or bar?) related to my Matchbox/Hot Wheels/Pocket Cars and the many odd-makes of...



-- Dave


Post# 1061382 , Reply# 4   2/23/2020 at 21:57 (1,495 days old) by scoots (Chattanooga TN)        

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Is the shower in the background for the living, or the un-living?

Post# 1061383 , Reply# 5   2/23/2020 at 23:21 (1,495 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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That’s for washing the body during the preparation process. You can also see there that motor at the left of the big sink basin. That gets attached to a large needle like instrument via a rubber hose, and this gets poked into your gut and they stab it around and jab all of your organs with it to suck out all the various liquids... cavity aspiration it’s called. To me the most freakish part of the embalming I think. I’m more disturbed by autopsies I think.

Post# 1061386 , Reply# 6   2/24/2020 at 03:51 (1,494 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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I've considered becoming a mortician...kind of the next step after being an RN for so long....and the patients don't talk back, they don't hit, kick, spit, fight, they don't sue, and no matter what, you can't kill them!


Post# 1061394 , Reply# 7   2/24/2020 at 08:18 (1,494 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
That first "like" is from Me!

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The only time I've been in an embalming room was when a neighbor of ours was buying a used Chevette from a funeral home which the deceased person probably had no heir to give the car to....

I sat in the front seat as she drove it around in the vast and surprisingly empty parking lot, (with the sound of a "Rod knocking" coming through one the right rear quarter panel, and it had such a tiny glove box I briefly opened) as there were supposedly no services at that time, that day, and got a first hand look at what that funeral home was like before low and behold there would afterwards funerals of people thereI had attended...

So my mom told me how the embalming procedure operates, and even told me long ago the undertaker as was termed back then before ofwhich we refer to as funeral director all the time I'd been alive actually comes to your house and embalms the dead right in your living room...

I simultaneously was also surprised that this being a Jewish funeral home even had an embalming room, as I learned Jews don't embalm the bodies...

Well, the young lass replacing her 1970 2-door Chevy Nova which replaced a 1960's Ford station wagon that was her first car which we had fun putting wood-grained contact paper on, didn't buy it, she settled for a former-teacher's Plymouth Volaré then getting her father's slightly olderAMC Hornet station wagon, before a sickly green Ford LTD II wagon came after that, and luckily to save us from derailing our topic even further, forgot everything else!


--Dave


Post# 1061398 , Reply# 8   2/24/2020 at 09:20 (1,494 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Greg,

I've seen a cadaver kick actually. My high school pal's dad was a mortician. He took me to tour the embalming room of thier family owned funeral home. Often nerves can still react a while after death because of dormant if only weak muscle flex before rigamordis sets in. I considered it as an occupation as well in high school.
It takes a person similar to a nurse or doctor to do it, as well as needing to be able to console the deceased loved ones. His dad also directed funerals. Most do.


Post# 1061415 , Reply# 9   2/24/2020 at 16:32 (1,494 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
So how did the paint job turn out?

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I can't imagine I would want a room I work in to be orange like that. I would like the cabinets to be much lighter. And really, why vinyl tiles that will get bumpy and start coming up? Sheet vinyl, epoxy, acid washed concrete are what I would want. Dr. G., on her show, designed a new morgue. It had a terrazzo surface that included old beer bottles, she said the floor was the best part of the new facility.

Post# 1061502 , Reply# 10   2/25/2020 at 08:49 (1,493 days old) by olivia_davis (Clifton,NJ)        

orange walls are definitely scary

Post# 1061503 , Reply# 11   2/25/2020 at 08:54 (1,493 days old) by Sudsomatic (Indiana)        

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The Spray Can cosmetics reminds me of Bruce Willis' Mortician Makeup of choice in Death Becomes Her


Post# 1061729 , Reply# 12   2/28/2020 at 05:45 (1,490 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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I was thinking the same thing!


Post# 1061775 , Reply# 13   2/28/2020 at 15:35 (1,490 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Orange....is this the new color, or the old?

judging by the pics, looks like it needs a new paint job...

I guess you could say it matches the rust on the washer...


Post# 1061941 , Reply# 14   3/1/2020 at 11:41 (1,488 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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No thanks.

And, I think when it's my turn, I'll opt for cremation.


Post# 1062011 , Reply# 15   3/1/2020 at 22:44 (1,488 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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"Orange....is this the new color, or the old?

judging by the pics, looks like it needs a new paint job...

I guess you could say it matches the rust on the washer... "

It might also match Trump's bronzer...


Post# 1070735 , Reply# 16   5/3/2020 at 23:53 (1,425 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Why waste Fancy Neon Orange Paint on a room or lab strictly for undertaking the dead? Just cinder blocks in off-white will do, and be sure to have plenty of air conditioning that actually REFRIGERATES!



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Post# 1070738 , Reply# 17   5/4/2020 at 00:55 (1,425 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        

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Love this movie.  So many quotable lines.

 

This must be the fun that Herman Munster was having while at work.



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Post# 1070739 , Reply# 18   5/4/2020 at 01:00 (1,425 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        

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The secret to being a successful embalmer at 0:30



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Post# 1079963 , Reply# 19   7/5/2020 at 19:09 (1,362 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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I don’t think I can look at another garbage disposal again, after I saw an article where one is right under a sink where this dirty work is done and some of your remains get washed down the drain... (forgot to save to archive and post here)

A secret room was a mostly-unused morgue/pathology lab at the hospital that I used to work at, was similar in that I caught a glimpse of a shower there for the body and a stainless steel table and even a small Mont. Ward top mounted fridge, and while the (now-late) pathologist was occasionally working there, could smell what he was he was doing, and hear the saw cutting that could easily cut more than just the dead person...


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Post# 1079968 , Reply# 20   7/5/2020 at 19:42 (1,362 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

#8

According to a girl I knew in college, cadaver kicking is MUCH scarier while you're transporting a body and the kick randomly hits something hard (like a side panel) and makes a loud noise and sounds rather like a person trying to get out. She was amazed she kept control of the car until she could pull over and have a proper freak out.

Of course, thereafter she'd conveniently forget to inform new employees of this phenomenon.....


Post# 1080381 , Reply# 21   7/8/2020 at 21:21 (1,359 days old) by Davey7 (Chicago)        
Orthodox Funeral Homes

So having actually designed a Jewish funeral home, I feel I am slightly qualified to comment on the topic. While Jewish funerary tradition is not to embalm, it's done if the remains need to be shipped somewhere for burial (across country or Israel). Plus it's a requirement from the state (at least in Illinois).

Post# 1080414 , Reply# 22   7/9/2020 at 11:12 (1,358 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        
Greg and Dave-----

Greg, be glad you do what you do. The funeral business as we have always know it here in the US is morphing into a completely different critter. There are many reasons, too many to list here. Suffice it to say, five years from now it may very well be nationalized by the Government. The politicians and media love to manipulate the public with dreams of universal health care. But there is already an epidemic of "abandoned" bodies out there and it is going to get much worse. There will be national death care long before there will be national health care. The unclaimed bodies are already piling up and the municipalities no longer have the money to deal with it.

Dave, Jewish Halacha is very specific regarding care of the dead. ANY mutilation of the body is forbidden.
However, the combination of secular Jews and the desire to assimilate, and the growth of funeral service here in the US led to the birth of the Jewish Funeral Homes.
Prior to the 1880's in all Jewish communities, the Chevra Kadisha performed the ancient ritual of preparing the dead for an immediate funeral. This is still practiced in many communities, usually by members of a specific synagogue or regional service. It is also done this way in Israel where funeral homes are unheard of and crematories do not exist. (The religious consider cremation to be a violent act to both the body and the newly released soul.)

Anyway, the secular Jews, newly arrived in the US, were quick to demand the same rather ornate funerals the Gentiles were used to and the newly founded Jewish funeral directors were glad to accommodate.
Also, there was a HUGE Jewish population in the NE. So embalming came into favor just to keep the bodies from decomposing until burial.
Of course, the majority of Eastern European Jews were very poor and depended on their individuals societies to handle their traditional immediate burials.
The wealthy, however, wanted all the trappings , lots of flowers ( also forbidden by the religious) and it wasn't too long before they were having open casket visitations.
Because the Halacha required a casket to be made totally of wood (no metal no animal glue, not manufactured on the sabbath) the religious refused metal caskets.
But the secular regularly insisted on ornate metal caskets including copper and bronze!

Harry Houdini died in Detroit. His body was embalmed and placed in a solid bronze casket. There was a visitation in Detroit and then the body was transferred to the old Rothschild West End Chapel (Now the Plaza Community Jewish Chapel) on the upper west side of NYC where there was an open casket, tons of floral tributes, and a full Jewish funeral service.

The Riverside, a huge operation and landmark Jewish memorial chapel in NYC was built in the late 1920's and did so much volume for four decades it was not unusual for them to average over thirty funerals a day. The demographic has changed now, and the Riverside has slowed down a lot ( except during the recent Covid crises).
They used to employ a large crew of Jewish embalmers. So did all the other Jewish funeral homes except for the few very religious firms.

Beginning in the early 1980's a movement began to return to the basic traditional ways of burial and slowly over the years embalming has gone by the wayside. Even cremation amongst the secular continues to gain popularity, however, the religious would never cremate anyone.

In many ways, the same can be said for the gentile firms where cremations are now 80% or more.
It won't be long before you walk into an office in your neighborhood and chose " vanilla,chocolate,or strawberry" disposal of your loved ones body, by a Government run agency.
The few independent funeral homes that survive will be very exclusive and generally for the wealthy who can afford or demand high quality service, merchandise, and a beautiful chapel.


Post# 1080475 , Reply# 23   7/10/2020 at 04:24 (1,357 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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My older relatives have all opted for lower cost cremation. The comment one of them made to me, "I don't care about what happens after I'm gone".

 

I'm pretty much the same. As long as my will is made out, and I have made arrangements for any people and pets I might be responsible for, I also don't care. My philosophy is dust to dust, and when I'm gone, that's it. If I can swing it, I'd opt for a painless death.

 


Post# 1080509 , Reply# 24   7/10/2020 at 14:17 (1,357 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Gyrafoam: Thank you for the thoroughly detailed commentary, which is easily my observation, and I somehow don’t feel spooked about anything else of this nature anymore...

(Or did I learn how to un-think it?)



— Dave


Post# 1080523 , Reply# 25   7/10/2020 at 16:55 (1,357 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

I grew up in the funeral business. Have worked most of my working years in the business. I have NEVER seen a body that was REALLY DEAD sit up, kick or flail their arms about. I don't even know anyone else in funeral service that has ever seen such a thing.
Rarely, like twice in 50 years I have observed an isolated area of twitching that was quickly gone. (The old-timers used to call it "dancing" tissue).

When moving a body, such as removing them from the place of death. Or dressing and casketing the body there are times when you could cause the body to exhale, burp, gurgle, or pass gas. This is completely normal, although, thorough cavity preparation should eliminate those issues.

If a body that is (supposedly) dead is sitting up, kicking, flailing their arms,etc. then somebody needs to 911 and get them to an ER 'cause they ain't dead.
Just 'sayin.


Post# 1080525 , Reply# 26   7/10/2020 at 17:01 (1,357 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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Why is this thread still going?
Wrong answers only.


Post# 1080529 , Reply# 27   7/10/2020 at 18:38 (1,357 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Just from a cosmetic standpoint I like very neutral colors in the lab. Back in the day white with black trim was just fine by me.
I don't want anything casting a hue on a body I am cosmetizing. As it is, some of the chemical manufacturers are putting way too much dye in the fluids.
I just don't think an orange cast in a lab is going to help especially when dealing with cases that are jaundiced or worse, pumped full of methylene blue.

Years ago the old Curry & Son funeral home in Tampa had two old champion tables from the sixties that were light olive green. I'm glad I didn't work there.



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