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Post# 1062193   3/3/2020 at 17:40 (1,113 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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Hook up the Thermador and try it out, or as I tend to say: Dip a titty in the water and see what we got workin', when I get home after work? This will be the first time I hook up and run a dishwasher that is known to need work, and I don't want to do it wrong and risk making anything worse.




Post# 1062204 , Reply# 1   3/3/2020 at 21:58 (1,112 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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So far I see a small leak that I believe is my drain hose not being tight enough, and the motor bearings sound AWFUL!!! I think Im gonna need a new motor...

Post# 1062214 , Reply# 2   3/3/2020 at 22:45 (1,112 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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I have longer videos of this going on, but none of them will upload tonight...

 





Post# 1062283 , Reply# 3   3/4/2020 at 13:55 (1,112 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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I found an NOS motor shaft seal and impeller kit for this thing, so I bought it. Ideally when I get the new motor (unless replacing the bearings in this one is possible) I'll put it back together with the new seal, and obviously the new impellers too.

Post# 1062288 , Reply# 4   3/4/2020 at 16:33 (1,112 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Did you find evidence of water leaking into the motor or have you not gone into it yet?

Post# 1062289 , Reply# 5   3/4/2020 at 16:44 (1,112 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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Theres evidence that the top of the motor has been wet, more towards the front where the drain hose connection is. As I run it some more I'm going to look at the motor and see if I see moisture. But I know the motor will have to come out, as the bearings sound horrible, and at that point I don't know that I'd trust reusing the seal.

Post# 1062352 , Reply# 6   3/5/2020 at 10:10 (1,111 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
TD DW Motor

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Does sound like a bad top bearing in the motor.

post a picture of the motor, by this time TD-WK was probably using an Emerson motor very much like what WP and a few others were using. I probably have a good used motor, I diffidently have lots of WP Emerson motors that could be used as a parts donor.

John L.


Post# 1062362 , Reply# 7   3/5/2020 at 11:58 (1,111 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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Ok, here the motor is from a couple different angles, and the last picture is the shaft seal and impellers I have on the way for it. If you have a motor or even just motor parts for it that would be great! Just let me know, and let me know what holy want for it!



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Post# 1062371 , Reply# 8   3/5/2020 at 13:31 (1,111 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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After a quick Google search, it seems this is very similar to a Whirlpool motor like you said!

Post# 1062508 , Reply# 9   3/6/2020 at 23:31 (1,109 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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I have no idea if the shaft is the same, but I believe this is the same motor as the Thermador.

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Post# 1062520 , Reply# 10   3/7/2020 at 06:37 (1,109 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Emerson DW Motors

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That looks like an Emerson motor intended for a WP DW, if we could see the motor label we could tell for sure.

 

On the one you pictured the shaft is not correct for a TD-WK.

 

John L.


Post# 1062534 , Reply# 11   3/7/2020 at 09:14 (1,109 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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They only had the one picture, but that is a Whirlpool motor. I figured the shaft would be different though. But I imagine I could use parts from this kind of motor to fix mine? This also had me wondering if the bearing could be completely removed and replaced on its own?

Post# 1062551 , Reply# 12   3/7/2020 at 14:03 (1,109 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        
Well here it is!

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A whole brand new old stock pump and motor. But I'll be flat out (pardon my language) God damned if I'll be paying $280 for it!

CLICK HERE TO GO TO Ultralux88's LINK on eBay


Post# 1062560 , Reply# 13   3/7/2020 at 17:54 (1,109 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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Post# 1062568 , Reply# 14   3/7/2020 at 19:03 (1,109 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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Well I have the motor apart, the

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Post# 1062589 , Reply# 15   3/8/2020 at 00:03 (1,108 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        
HEEEELLLLLLLLPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Well the shaft seems rusted into the bearing rather well, I can't even remove the plastic slinger thing, the shaft is so rusted inside of it. And it also seems the bearing can't be pushed out of the motor housing. I'm not sure I can save anything from this motor! Any recommendations on what to do next? some means of getting this apart I don't know of?? I wish I could just find another motor, or at least one they aren't asking such a toe-toucher of a price for...

Post# 1062598 , Reply# 16   3/8/2020 at 05:19 (1,108 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
eMail the eBay seller..

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I don't imagine it's unheard of for someone to eMail an eBay seller and ask if they would consider selling something at a lower price.  I don't know what kind of demand there is for this motor but depending on how long they have had it in stock they may be willing to drop the price more than they already have.

 

Decide what you think is a reasonable price.  John L. may be able to help you determine what that is.   I don't know if this is a good price or not.  

 

You never know what could happen.


Post# 1062614 , Reply# 17   3/8/2020 at 11:12 (1,108 days old) by bigalsf (Salt Lake City)        

Hi Reggie, sorry I did not catch up on this thread sooner. I have a used pump/motor assembly you may have. It is from an older unit that I was saving as a backup for my own WK. I don't use the WK as a daily driver (as I want to preserve it) so the likelihood of me needing the backup is pretty nil.

The pump/motor is identical to yours except for the heating element (it is from a pre-Steam model, the SS911). You will need to exchange the heating element.

I noticed that you removed the motor from the pump without taking the pump out. If you decide to remove the motor from the pump i have and install on yours you will need to remove the pump from the machine in order to properly install the motor on it. Most likely you will need to shim the wash impeller when reinstalling as there are always minor differences in tolerances when installing a different motor from the one it came off the assembly line with. It would be easier to exchange the heating element.

If you send me your address I'll let you know what packaging/shipping will cost (prob not much since your next door to my state!)

You have a unique dishwasher; these were based on Wasteking's second design of built in dishwashers, dating back to 1965 or so. The only major changes over the years were the addition of stainless steel tubs, a change from aluminum to phenolic (plastic) pumps, and the steam generator. Wasteking was also an early pioneer (in the U.S.) of the delayed start option. I always liked their styling and they cleaned well, but they were not very durable and used quite a bit of water. Pumps, alas, were one of their weakest points. When Bosch took control of the brand, this design was abandoned almost immediately. Oh well! They're still nice to look at & play with!


Post# 1062625 , Reply# 18   3/8/2020 at 12:55 (1,108 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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I could have removed the pump as well, and Id probably be most inclined to just install it whole as well. I could easily transfer the heating element, would give me an excuse to put new seals in there too.

Post# 1062627 , Reply# 19   3/8/2020 at 13:00 (1,108 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        
eMail the eBay seller..

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I did, and well see if my offer of $170 manages to even get a reply. Still more than Id like to pay, but it puts it more into the realm of the possible...


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