Thread Number: 82237
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New Single Cup coffee machine |
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Post# 1062389   3/5/2020 at 20:02 (1,505 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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A couple of weeks ago I was in a coffee store where they sells all kinds of brewers, coffeemakers, supplies, coffee, etc. Afterwards I started getting ads on Instagram from the store. One of them was to purchase at least $75 in Mars Flavia single serve coffee packs and get a free brewer valued at $179. I had never heard of either. Then this week on Tues. I got the ad again. I already have a Cuisinart single serve machine but I needed more coffee anyway so I decided to buy these new coffee packs and get the free brewer. It arrived today. There are packs available for all types of coffee as well as tea, soup, hot chocolate, latte, espresso and cappucino. Each pack has a nozzle on top where the water enters, the coffee in the pack and a filter. The pack is inserted upright in the chamber, the door is closed and then the beverage is brewed. I haven't tried it yet but will give it a go tomorrow morning.
Does anyone use this system or has heard of it? Gary CLICK HERE TO GO TO countryguy's LINK |
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Post# 1062403 , Reply# 1   3/5/2020 at 21:25 (1,505 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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They were used at a company I worked at >15 years ago--it seemed like they did the "free hot water; pay for drinks" thing better than Keurig (though I think of single-serve coffee with the same contempt I do for bottled water...only ever use it in hotels). I did have a Senseo which I picked up about 13 years ago for a little while...it had the filter pods with just filterpaper (not all the plastic/foil/…).
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Post# 1062404 , Reply# 2   3/5/2020 at 21:25 (1,505 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)   |   | |
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Looks interesting. Downside might be that it looks to use proprietary packs, will it accept K-cup pods? |
Post# 1062416 , Reply# 3   3/5/2020 at 23:31 (1,504 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1062418 , Reply# 4   3/5/2020 at 23:39 (1,504 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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I'm skeptical about pods being recycled at all. A huge amount of recycled material ends up in landfill because it's not clean. Who is going to scoop out the residue in the pod before it goes to the recycling facility, which only handles clean recyclables? My guess is nobody, but the lip service makes the consumer feel better. |
Post# 1062459 , Reply# 5   3/6/2020 at 10:18 (1,504 days old) by Whatsername (Denver, CO)   |   | |
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Post# 1062461 , Reply# 6   3/6/2020 at 10:24 (1,504 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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Keurig cups are also recyclable. I discovered that when removing the grounds and paper filter, some have a strainer in the bottom, and some do not. For example, the Dunkin' donuts ones do, blue box donut shop, and the McCafe' don't, or visa versa. |
Post# 1062464 , Reply# 7   3/6/2020 at 10:31 (1,504 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 1062492 , Reply# 8   3/6/2020 at 19:23 (1,504 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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I had 2 cups of coffee this morning, using 2 different brands. They were both very good and the coffee was hot like I prefer instead of lukewarm from many k-cup brewers. The brewer heats up fast, is very quiet compared to a Keurig or my current Cuisinart. One down side is that there is not room for a real large cup size even with the overflow plate removed. The 3 standard cup sizes are very small compared to other brewers however it has the capability to increase the default for each cup size by 10, 20 or 30 %. Each cup is almost twice the cost of a k-cup.
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Post# 1062516 , Reply# 9   3/7/2020 at 03:28 (1,503 days old) by liamy1 (-)   |   | |
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Question, do you have the Tassimo system in the US? Always wondered. |
Post# 1062517 , Reply# 10   3/7/2020 at 03:59 (1,503 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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I've picked up a few of them over the years at Estate Sales. We used to be able to get the discs at Bed Bath and Beyond in stock. Now it looks like you can get them but they have to be shipped to our store here in Little Rock. I didn't hate them but I did hate the fact that I had to use their own discs. I've given mine away. A guy I work with loves them and wanted to have spares in case his died so off they went to him. |
Post# 1062612 , Reply# 11   3/8/2020 at 11:07 (1,502 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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a huge amount of trash - billons of cups/yr - maybe it's me but I've never had a decent cup of coffee out of any single serve machine. We got a Cook's Illustrated recommended Bonavita drip machine and it was a revelation as it brews at the proper temps, 197 to 205, which very few machines actually do. Grinding good quality recently roasted beans fresh each time also helps immensely, imho... yymv.
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Post# 1062674 , Reply# 12   3/9/2020 at 01:17 (1,501 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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I have a feeling that Tassimo is not going to be around in a year or two. THe shelf space allotted to their discs is getting really small. Sort of like what happened with the Nescafe Dolce Gusto pods I had ,and that Nestle recently discontinued in N.America. It was the top rated single serve in Consumer Reports. They were giving away free machines about a year before the announcement. I still have mine unboxed Shame because the Dolce Gusto machines and coffee's were great.
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Post# 1062735 , Reply# 14   3/9/2020 at 16:18 (1,501 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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I think that Kerig and all the rest of these single cup coffee brewers are only good if you like very weak coffee, or are willing to brew and drink small cups of coffee, no more than 8oz. They just don’t hold enough coffee to give a good, strong cup a joe.
If you want to brew one cup at a time, use a Melitta 1 cup pour over and you can use enough coffee to make it as strong as you want it to be. And its a whole lot less expensive.
Granted it doesn’t provide the cache of having yet another appliance on your counter, but the trade off is space on your counter for other things that really do what they are supposed to do.
And there is less non biodegradable crap going into the landfill so you won’t be contributing more to climate change. The paper Melitta filters are biodegradable.
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Post# 1062793 , Reply# 15   3/9/2020 at 23:30 (1,500 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1062800 , Reply# 16   3/10/2020 at 00:53 (1,500 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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I've never owned a single cup brewer that uses pods, but have enjoyed decent coffee from them. They sure do beat the alternative of a big urn that's been cooking the brew for hours if you happen to be in a waiting room or are having complimentary breakfast at a hotel, etc.
I bought a Bonavita automatic drip machine a few years ago at one of the last remaining Sears stores in my area. They had the best price. I cruised ebay and found a never-used Chemex 6-cup carafe with glass handle (so it can go in the dishwasher) plus a box of 100 filters and ditched the Bonavita's filter basket and carafe. It's a lot easier to remove and toss the Chemex filter cone than deal with the filter basket, and the Chemex makes a superior, smoother cup of coffee. Or, in my case, two mugs full of coffee. I highly recommend this system for those who buy beans and grind them each morning. I have a '60s vintage KA grinder next to the Bonavita and use freshly ground beans from a local independent roaster. This system is far cheaper than a Chemex Otto, and a lot less clunky and complicated than a more expensive Technivorm. |
Post# 1062804 , Reply# 17   3/10/2020 at 01:50 (1,500 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Post# 1062815 , Reply# 19   3/10/2020 at 06:29 (1,500 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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I have a Dolce Gusto too. The coffee from it is certainly not week, at least when you use the real Dolce Gusto pods. Other brands are nothing like the Dolce Gusto ones. I made the mistake of buying a box of Starbucks pods for the Dolce Gusto, awful stuff!
In comparison to the Dolce Gusto, I prefer the Nespresso, the taste is even better. But I don't like the Nespresso system, the cups don't have their own spout, so the Nespresso machines are more difficult to clean than the Dolce Gusto machines. I use the Dolce Gusto for a fast cup of coffee, my regular cup of coffee is made in a Moccamaster. I haven't seen the Bonavita coffeemakers here, but I saw some good reviews of those. |
Post# 1062850 , Reply# 20   3/10/2020 at 14:11 (1,500 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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My Keurig single cup machine was "new to me" as someone basically wrapped the thing up nearly new and left it for recycling collection.
Truth to tell since then have noticed plenty of Keurig machines littered about at thrifts, and or out for collection on trash day. Had a stash of various K-cup coffee and tea otherwise likely wouldn't have bothered. For my tastes coffee produced is rather weak for what it is; but will do when one only wants one cup of coffee quickly. Get better results from my Italian moka pot, but that of course involves washing up. |
Post# 1062900 , Reply# 22   3/11/2020 at 09:46 (1,499 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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Thomas: it's not impossible to find great coffee here, you might try this one, then brew it in a machine that holds proper brewing temperature like a Bonavita 1900:
vermontcoffeecompany.com/collect... |
Post# 1062901 , Reply# 23   3/11/2020 at 09:55 (1,499 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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www.cooksillustrated.com/...
We love ours, and am savoring a cup right now. The Dutch-made Technivorm Moccamaster is maybe slightly better, but we didn't feel worth the $320 when the Bonavita can be had for ~ $130, and is very close in quality & performance. |
Post# 1062905 , Reply# 24   3/11/2020 at 11:21 (1,499 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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I’m all about a really good cup of coffee.
I roast my own beans every week or two and grind them just before I make a pot of coffee.
For me the important factors besides a good freshly roasted bean is the pre-infusion and the temperature of the water. I’ve tried most of the makers that boast these features and none of them do as well as you will when you do a manual pour over.
Behmor Connected brewer: the brewer makes an OK cup of coffee, but the thermal carafe does not keep the coffee hot. I have to transfer it to another container to keep it warm.
Chemex Ottomatic: I have the original version that does not do a pre-infusion. It also brews at about 190 and I like closer to 205. I am told the newer version does a proper pre-infusion but I don’t know if it brews any hotter. The coffee is not bad it just never seems hot enough for my taste.
Technivorm: I have an older model that doesn’t have the pre-infusion but it does make a nice hot pot of coffee. It’s faster but the Technivorm filters don’t filter as well as I like.
I haven’t tried the Bonavita, but I’ve read about them. They are supposed to make a decent cup.
So long story short, I’ve stopped using the automated machines for the most part. I have a six cup Chemex. I grind the beans, heat the water and use the pour over method. I like the old-fashioned method just like many of us on this site for so many of the things we do. |
Post# 1062909 , Reply# 25   3/11/2020 at 13:51 (1,499 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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but the extra work involved has stopped us from taking that final step... so far.
The Bonavita 1900TS does have a pre-infusion cycle that can be selected, and using it with this machine makes coffee as good as any when we used the French-press or manual method. I'm pretty picky and v happy with it, but no doubt roasting will be the Final Frontier. |
Post# 1062911 , Reply# 26   3/11/2020 at 13:57 (1,499 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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Post# 1062912 , Reply# 27   3/11/2020 at 14:04 (1,499 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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I do it about every two weeks usually and I do two pounds at a time. I buy the beans online, on sale and usually pay less than $4 (last order all in was $3.88) a pound for the green beans. I bought a Behmor Drum Roaster that does 1 lb at a time. Each pound takes about 20 min roast and 10 min cool. I'm not the psycho bitch from hell like some are with roasting as far as temps and moisture and god knows what else. I buy the same green beans every time because I'm comfortable with that type. I roast until just the start of first crack because I like a lighter roast. When I hear the first few snaps I hit the cool button and that's really it. I let the beans rest 24 hours.
Honestly, if I had a coffee roaster close by and I could buy it fresh roasted at a reasonable price I would likely do that instead. Out here, for whatever reason, we don't have one or if we do I haven't found it so I do it myself. |
Post# 1062915 , Reply# 28   3/11/2020 at 14:33 (1,499 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Thomas, have you tried cold brewing? I have a Toddy cold brew system and you can make it as strong as you like. A friend of mine will let it sit for three or four days instead of just overnight, and it's pretty strong. All he ever drinks is his own cold brew.
I use the concentrate from a Toddy for iced coffee mainly, but it makes a very smooth cup of hot coffee as well. |
Post# 1062923 , Reply# 30   3/11/2020 at 16:15 (1,499 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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We are all so much alike and yet all so different.
I actually picked up an older Bonavita a few years back at Savers. My intention was to use it with my Chemex the way others mentioned here but it was the smaller version and the Chemex didn't fit. It didn't come with a pot so I think I gave it away. I don't remember. What I like best about the Chemex is the filter. It really produces a smooth cup of coffee free of the things that can make coffee bitter. |
Post# 1062924 , Reply# 31   3/11/2020 at 16:55 (1,499 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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The water for making coffee has to be the right temperature. Both the Moccamaster and the Bonavita do that right. The Philips Gourmet boils the water indeed, but you can taste indeed that the coffee is burnt. Besides that, they are very unreliable. One SIL had six of them IIRC. Now she has a Moccamaster, no problems with that one.
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Post# 1062926 , Reply# 32   3/11/2020 at 17:10 (1,499 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 1062933 , Reply# 33   3/11/2020 at 17:50 (1,499 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Optimal brewing temperature for coffee is between 195F and 205F. This will vary slightly by type of coffee bean, but generally you want water just below boiling.
That being said many coffeemakers going back a few decades never get anywhere near such temps. This is one reason many seek out old/vintage coffee brewers of all sorts from perc to drip. For small amounts of coffee you can't beat a moka pot. One of my fav YT coffee channels: |
Post# 1062948 , Reply# 34   3/11/2020 at 23:04 (1,498 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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I remember the first time I ever experienced Toddy cold brew coffee. It was May something 1980 and I had recently arrived in San Franscisco upon my new Honda Goldwing. The trip had been a bit rought what with Mt St Helens along the way that first morning dong her best to ruin my fun. My first evening in town I was on my way to the Opera when all of a sudden I found myself lost. I ventured into a bar where oddly all the men were wearing a lot of black leather and made my way to the bar to ask for directions. The bartender was quite busy so I sat down on a stool to wait and not any sooner a big glass of draft appeared in front of me. I had no idea where it had come from and so glanced around the room whereupon my eyes fixated up a tall slim good looking gentlemen all dressed in leather was leaning against a wall near the pool table and smiling at me I motioned him over to ask him if he knew how to get to the opera and the next thing I know he's on the back of my bike and we're heading back to his apartment/condo on the hill above castro street. After a lovely evening I found myself awake the next morning in his boudoir. He was already in the kitchen preparing breafast and asked if I'd like a coffee to which I replied yes. I got up and dressed and ventured into the kitchen and he was in the process of making my coffee with this strange contraption called a Toddy Brew. Well long story short you took a tablespoon or something of the cold concentated coffee liquid and mixed it into your cup with some hot water from a kettle.. As I recall it was quite nice and I was equally impressed by him. We spent the next couple of days touring around the Bay area on my bike. It was fun singing Que Sera Sera tootling across the bridge and stuff. I never did keep in touch afterwards and have often wondered about this good looking guy by the name of Tim Wilson who introduced me to Toddy Cold Brew . Is he still alive in SF,did he move etc . Other than the opera, the whole story is true LOL
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Post# 1062966 , Reply# 35   3/12/2020 at 06:14 (1,498 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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My first introduction was in the mid 70s. A friend had this contraption where you put a pound of ground coffee in the top, fill with water and let sit for 24 hours. You then pulled out the plug in the bottom of the upper container. The brew went through a filter to produce a smooth thick brew. You also mixed it with hot water and it made a cup of OK coffee. I wouldn't use it everyday because I like the process as much as the result. I love the smell of the ground beans and the coffee as its brewing. But, for a quick cup it wasn't that bad as I recall. |