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Thread Number: 82282
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Maytag Neptune TL! |
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| Post# 1062750 3/9/2020 at 18:03 (1,501 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
Something told me to visit the local used appliance store today. And I went over and saw 2 washers and 1 stove sitting outside. I saw the shape of the console and the drain hose poking out I immediately went over to it and saw it was A Maytag Neptune TL. I immediately asked if I could have it and was told I could. My mom moved our car between the Roll-Off Crates and Me and the owner loaded the machine up. It was full of water so me and the owner dumped it all out and for the machine being almost full and hearing a groaning when I spin the drum I automatically suspect that the Clutch Is bad. A new clutch is $240 but I might be able to take the clutch out and regrease it using waterproof and heatproof bicycle grease. the grease that MAYTAG packed it with is cheap white-lithium grease. If my clutch is broken beyond regreasing does anyone have a spare?
There is a dedicated YouTube Video on regreasing the clutch? | ||
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| Post# 1062755 , Reply# 1 3/9/2020 at 18:53 (1,500 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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congrats on that find-those things are cool :) | ||
Post# 1062758 , Reply# 2 3/9/2020 at 19:30 (1,500 days old) by combo52  (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Maytag Neptune TL Hi Kelly, If it groans when you turn the tub you likely have a bad main seal and bearings.
The machine being full of water is either a bad pump, something caught in the pump or I have seen a few of these with board problems and the board and relay are not sending power to the pump. Try putting a test cord on the WP and plug it in to see if the pump operates and pumps out water.
The clutch on these washers are a dry clutch so adding grease is probably not a good idea.
John L. | ||
| Post# 1062759 , Reply# 3 3/9/2020 at 19:46 (1,500 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
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Interesting. John I'll take a look at it. I'll take the clutch off and see if the groan persists. if it does then I'll order a bearing kit. the Serial starts with 16 so it's the newer style clutch. I'll try to look at it and see. someone on youtube regreased the clutch and it fixed it for 6 or so years. Link below is not my video.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO MaytagNeptune's LINK | ||
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Post# 1062769 , Reply# 4 3/9/2020 at 21:27 (1,500 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio) |
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Neptune TL If you get the machine functioning again, PLEASE upload videos of the machine running! We need more recent videos with better cameras to document these machines before they no longer exist! Very nice find. Enjoy it! | ||
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Post# 1062773 , Reply# 5 3/9/2020 at 21:41 (1,500 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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maytag Neptune TL [ Clutch Greasing ? ] Hi Kelly, I watched the video , I am assuming that the guy that made it is not an AW member so I am going to say it, HE IS AN IDIOT, He has very little clue how this washer even works.
He has almost no clue what is wrong with his washer, the reason he is greasing the clutch bearing is because WATER is getting in the bearing from the failed main seal above, you can see all the rust on the top of the clutch.
This is a major problem with the internet, anyone can get on it and say what ever they want with no qualifications, experience Etc Etc.
A very important life lesson is to know who you are dealing with, would you let this guy work on your teeth ? do surgery on your eyes ?,
At least he is not even pretending to be an appliance tech or trying to charge for his advice as he would starve waiting for many to pay for this nonsense.
John L. | ||
| Post# 1062782 , Reply# 6 3/9/2020 at 22:19 (1,500 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
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He is kinda a IDIOT for not replacing the tub seal. You're right on that for sure! If I see rust on my clutch I'll grease it and replace the tub seal. If that will kill my clutch and not free it then I will have to wait a little bit and order a brand new clutch $240 (COSTLY!) and a Tub seal $21. The part is still available. I think it's weird though because the Calypso is obsolete every mechanical part for a Calypso is NLA. The Clutch and tub seal are still available. I'll investigate the groaning I'll do the bearings if necessary.
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| Post# 1063365 , Reply# 7 3/15/2020 at 23:31 (1,494 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
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Machine tested | ||
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Post# 1063380 , Reply# 8 3/16/2020 at 07:30 (1,494 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Maytag Neptune TL | ||
| Post# 1063598 , Reply# 9 3/17/2020 at 20:38 (1,492 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
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Good news!
I finally got into taking it apart and found out that the clutch bearings are completely dry. there is white powder falling out which tells me that the White lithium grease has dried up. I plan to add Phil wood to the needle bearings and I am also replacing the tub seal. There is a lot of rust on top of the clutch so I am greasing the clutch bearings with phil wood and replacing the tub seal. Like you said John. It would be idiotic if I didn't replace the tub seal. It failed because WATER got into it from the failed tub seal.
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| Post# 1063790 , Reply# 10 3/19/2020 at 13:07 (1,491 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
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Bearings | ||
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Post# 1063792 , Reply# 11 3/19/2020 at 13:10 (1,491 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1063841 , Reply# 12 3/19/2020 at 20:02 (1,490 days old) by Tomdawg (Des moines) | ||
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Neptune TL I did a bearing Job on a Neptune TL- it was quite the job.. had to go to a farm store and find a huge socket to take the nut off- along with a air compressed impactor! I wish I did Documentation :/ | ||
| Post# 1063926 , Reply# 13 3/20/2020 at 20:26 (1,489 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
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I got the bearings out.
Once you have removed the tub remove the belt and clutch from the bottom of the machine. break the big nut by making a hard left turn or having someone hold the drum for you remove the tub ring. Then use a block of wood to tap out the inner drum. Then use a steel punch(be careful to not damage the spacer) to pound out the old bearing. then I used a steel pipe to pound out the rear/bottom bearing. Waiting on the bearings still I'll send photos when I'm about to put in the new bearings.
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| Post# 1064089 , Reply# 14 3/21/2020 at 22:39 (1,488 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
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I got the machine working again!
I cleaned out the sludge from the washer basket. Replaced the Tub Seal and bearings successfully! I took the clutch and repacked it with White Lithium Grease. the old stuff dried up from the leak. I never took any photos I was so concentrated on this project that I completely forgot to take photos. Video coming tomorrow.
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| Post# 1064180 , Reply# 15 3/22/2020 at 18:38 (1,488 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
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Is the Thread dead? | ||
| Post# 1064184 , Reply# 16 3/22/2020 at 18:59 (1,487 days old) by Rodro2006 (Mexico) | ||
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MaytagNeptune Hi everyone, I also purchased this maytag Neptune TL, but how can I bypass the door so I can record a video? Thanks everyone | ||
| Post# 1064187 , Reply# 17 3/22/2020 at 19:52 (1,487 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
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Bypass the lock | ||
| Post# 1064188 , Reply# 18 3/22/2020 at 19:57 (1,487 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Post# 1064193 , Reply# 19 3/22/2020 at 20:15 (1,487 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Up And Running Nice job Kelly, I have never seen anyone that said these do not clean well, When CRs tested one it had the highest cleaning score ever.
The major problem with this cool washer is severe tangling, most owners hated this washer and many were dumped long before they broke down which usually was not that anyway.
Maytag had patents dating back to 1949 for a TL washer with impellers on both sides of the wash tub, however the original design had the impellers in a horizontal position and a full tub of water which might have worked better but would not have been energy efficient.
I give MT great credit for actually bringing this washer to market, this along with the much more successful Whirlpool Calypso will diffidently be future collectible machines and the two coolest automatic washers designed and produced in the US in the last 20 years.
John L. | ||
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Post# 1064197 , Reply# 20 3/22/2020 at 20:27 (1,487 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1064298 , Reply# 21 3/23/2020 at 12:49 (1,487 days old) by Rodro2006 (Mexico) | ||
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Need your help Hi everyone As you know I also bought this machine this weekend, but the tub cover and splash guard are ruined and have to buy them, but no one though ebay can send me this to Mexico, do anyone knows how can I send this both things to Mexico, thanks a lot. | ||
| Post# 1064362 , Reply# 22 3/23/2020 at 21:50 (1,486 days old) by Rodro2006 (Mexico) | ||
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Maytag Neptune TL Hi everyone, I leave here a short video of my new Maytag Neptune TL, I'll upload more videos performing with cloths CLICK HERE TO GO TO Rodro2006's LINK | ||
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Post# 1064377 , Reply# 23 3/24/2020 at 04:38 (1,486 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Is it me or when the Neptune TL starts the agitation it sounds exactly like one of those civil defense sirens? | ||
| Post# 1064491 , Reply# 24 3/24/2020 at 21:32 (1,485 days old) by Rodro2006 (Mexico) | ||
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Maytag Neptune TL I share the the whole cycle of my new Maytag Neptune TL, hope you enjoy it CLICK HERE TO GO TO Rodro2006's LINK | ||
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Post# 1064492 , Reply# 25 3/24/2020 at 21:43 (1,485 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1064496 , Reply# 26 3/24/2020 at 22:13 (1,485 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Failed to balance on the first spin so skipped it. Last rinse is a higher fill level, and it topped off the fill after tumbling started (due to the items absorbing water, which it may do at any time on any fill) and caught you with the lid open. :-) The FAV9800 / LCD model has a higher max spin speed (1000 RPM) than the FAV6800 / LED model (850 RPM). And a water heater. | ||
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Post# 1064498 , Reply# 27 3/24/2020 at 22:27 (1,485 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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wash cycle What wash cycle did he use? | ||
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Post# 1064526 , Reply# 29 3/25/2020 at 06:37 (1,485 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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defults and cycles What's the default setting on the cottons cycle? What are the other cycles this machine have to offer? Where's the sturdy cycle? | ||
| Post# 1064559 , Reply# 32 3/25/2020 at 11:55 (1,485 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
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Light loads do not do so well in this machine | ||
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Post# 1064563 , Reply# 33 3/25/2020 at 12:22 (1,485 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1064564 , Reply# 34 3/25/2020 at 12:31 (1,485 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Rodrigo, the final rinse doesn't start tumbling until the higher fill level is reached ... it just happened to do the top-off due to the level dropping via water absorption of the fabric. Softener flush begins on the final rinse when the normal level is reached and continues until the higher level is reached. It'll also do top-offs if necessary on the wash and interim rinses at the lower level. The Bulky cycle runs the higher level for all fills. Bleach flush is during the fill for the 1st rinse, if you haven't yet noticed. This all as per behavior of my FAV6800. | ||
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Post# 1064653 , Reply# 36 3/26/2020 at 01:29 (1,484 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Rodro, where do you live in Mexico? Is it close to California? | ||
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Post# 1064654 , Reply# 37 3/26/2020 at 03:49 (1,484 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 1064679 , Reply# 40 3/26/2020 at 10:05 (1,484 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Whirlpool built calypso washer
Doing my big load of monthly whites in my calypso last night, my goal is to never be without this washer for the rest of my life.
A big basket a very dirty socks etc. one cup of bleach in the dispenser everything comes out beautifully washed and rinsed so well that you can’t smell the bleach and then dried outdoors in the beautiful fresh air in an outdoor gas Whirlpool dryer. John | ||
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Post# 1064715 , Reply# 44 3/26/2020 at 17:38 (1,484 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Strangely it happens only on heavy duty cycle. | ||
| Post# 1065305 , Reply# 45 3/31/2020 at 08:46 (1,479 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
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Wierd Noise when ramping up to 800 RPM.
I have a weird whirring noise when it spins up to 800 RPM it sounds very similar to a LG TROMM. Is this perfectly Normal or did I install the seal wrong?
Taken with amazon kindle fire. not the best video but the SOUND! CLICK HERE TO GO TO MaytagNeptune's LINK | ||
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Post# 1065312 , Reply# 46 3/31/2020 at 09:41 (1,479 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Sounds Fine To Me | ||
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Post# 1065328 , Reply# 47 3/31/2020 at 12:33 (1,479 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio) |
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Stain Treat/ Catalyst That weird behavior occurring only on the Heavy Duty cycle is the stain treat option similar to that of a catalyst machine. Saturated soak was somewhat similar. | ||
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Post# 1065330 , Reply# 48 3/31/2020 at 12:51 (1,479 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio) |
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Ohhhh NICE! Thank you guys! | ||
| Post# 1065334 , Reply# 49 3/31/2020 at 14:16 (1,479 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
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Final Rinse water level | ||
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Post# 1065339 , Reply# 50 3/31/2020 at 14:36 (1,479 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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for the TL, I would reverse the tumblers, it would handle most all loads with no issues compared to how they are originally...and as Glenn mentioned, needing some extra help at times....
but give me a Calypso any day.... Thomas, your Heavy Duty doesn't seem right, it will spin and saturate, but not drain before the wash... minimal water is only used to really concentrate the detergent lather, and it may suds up, but once the wash action progresses, more water may be added, and the dirt will knock the suds down....and I dont use HE detergents in mine...anywho, just enough water is added to saturate the load, and cause the waterfall to operate...that is all that is ever needed... Kenmores always did a different program for their cycles compared to the Whirlpool counterpart....and dont know why, they both used the same boards... but have found a few different boards after change out, that certain cycles had some slight differences in how the cycle progressed than what you were used to... | ||
| Post# 1065396 , Reply# 51 3/31/2020 at 22:55 (1,478 days old) by Rodro2006 (Mexico) | ||
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Maytag Neptune TL spins For me it sounds normal, actually mine sounds the same even at 1000rpm | ||
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Post# 1065399 , Reply# 52 3/31/2020 at 23:53 (1,478 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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 These TL Neptunes are among the weirdest, and coolest automatics ever made. They invoke images of early machines with wacky mechanisms.
Nate had one when he lived in Oakland. It seemed like an odd system to me then, and per the clips posted above, it still does.
That's not to say they can't do a good job, mind you. I think the waterfall system on the Calypso would be equally entertaining, though. | ||
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Post# 1065400 , Reply# 53 3/31/2020 at 23:59 (1,478 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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| Post# 1065491 , Reply# 54 4/1/2020 at 16:34 (1,478 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
Going into suds routine at the start of cycle | ||
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Post# 1066814 , Reply# 56 4/10/2020 at 19:01 (1,468 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ) |
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Oh, great. Now I have a whole new kind of Neptune to lust for.... and a whole new bunch of YouTube vids to watch when I should be working........ I can't decide if this is really, really good or really, really bad..... Jim | ||
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Post# 1066835 , Reply# 57 4/10/2020 at 23:32 (1,468 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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I found one exactly like that.... 130 miles away from Los Angeles. Right now I'm crying because the USA market doesn't have a mini pickup truck derivate from a small "subcompact" hatchback like the Fiat Strada or the Ford Courrier. I simply can't ask Kevin to risk his life going on a 260-mile road trip while the world is locked down. | ||
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Post# 1066836 , Reply# 58 4/10/2020 at 23:39 (1,468 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ) |
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That sucks. I'm sure you've noticed how deficient the USA is regarding smaller vehicles. For whatever reasons, the best subcompact and smaller cars aren't on offer. In the 80' and 90' there were quite a few "small" pickups available, but no more. I hope you can find an alternative. Best of luck, Jim | ||
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Post# 1066908 , Reply# 60 4/11/2020 at 12:15 (1,468 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Perfict Appliance Hualers
A new or used Dodge Caravan are great for hauling and all around use, since 2008 these get 30 MPG on the highway.
Another really perfect vehicle is a Ram Pro-master City Van, these have a nearly 1 ton capacity great tie-down hooks built into the cargo floor and get around 28 MPG on the highway and great for towing with the HD 9 speed transmission. Either one of these can be had for around 22-25,000 new and we currently have 6 of these vehicles and reliably is very good and servicing costs reasonable. John L. | ||
| Post# 1142567 , Reply# 61 2/19/2022 at 07:25 (789 days old) by Rodro2006 (Mexico) | ||
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Main seal and bearings Hi everyone, does anyone knows where can I find the main seal and bearings of this Maytag Neptune TL Thanks from Mexico | ||
| Post# 1176086 , Reply# 62 3/26/2023 at 00:58 (389 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
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