Thread Number: 82728
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Post# 1068722 , Reply# 1   4/22/2020 at 23:17 (1,457 days old) by eronie (Flushing Michigan)   |   | |
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I only use Land O Lakes. The indian girl is no longer on the box. |
Post# 1068726 , Reply# 2   4/23/2020 at 00:41 (1,457 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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I remember the Land 'O Lakes box from my youth. My mother only used butter. I could not tell the difference. |
Post# 1068731 , Reply# 3   4/23/2020 at 01:01 (1,457 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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I buy whatever is the cheapest, butter is butter for the most part. But I don’t like unsalted butter for anything but baking. On toast it has no flavor to me.
I generally buy the Target Good and Gather brand, the only thing I don’t like about it is that they now pack in the longer, narrower sticks, like on the East Coast, I prefer the shorter West Coast style sticks, or cubes as I was brought up to call them. They fit in the butter dish better when there is still a partial cube left in the butter dish and I want to put a fresh cube out to get soft.
And I always keep at least 3 lbs. of butter in the freezer, and I was glad for this when the COVID-19 shortages set in a few weeks ago. You can’t find margarine around here in anything but those tubs of whipped crap. Even though I don’t like margarine and it isn’t as good for you health wise as butter, I would have bought a pound or two of Imperial if I could have found it when there was no butter to be had. During a couple of poor years for my family in the mid 60’s we used Imperial and it tasted the most like butter of any of the other margarines available then.
BTW, during WWII when everything was rationed, you could buy more margarine than butter with your fat coupons. But the dairy industry had a law in place then that prohibited the sale of margarine that was colored yellow to resemble butter. It came in 1 lb. rectangular plastic bags, with a capsule of carotene coloring in the block of white margarine. You then had to massage the bag to break the capsule and continue to knead the bag until the margarine was a uniform yellow in color.
My Mom was the youngest girl and this was her chore, which she hated doing. Therefore, margarine always had a negative connotation for her. Those couple or years we used Imperial were a real come down for her. When things got better financially she went back to butter and never used margarine again.
Eddie
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Post# 1068760 , Reply# 4   4/23/2020 at 06:09 (1,457 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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I remember Julia Child dissing margarine back in the 1970's. Her words were to the effect that it was fake stuff and she never uses it, just butter, lard, or olive oil instead. I concur. It's the partially hydrogenated fats in margarine that are the culprit: full of artery clogging trans fats. Even lard is healthier.
I remember growing up with margarine, though. It was thought to be healthier than butter. Turns out the opposite is true. |
Post# 1068764 , Reply# 5   4/23/2020 at 06:37 (1,457 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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PS-The melting/softening point of butter is probably dependent on what the cows are fed. If they are given a diet rich in polyunsaturated fats, then they probably will yield softer butter. I am going on what I learned in a 1970's nutrition class: that hogs fed a unsaturated fat rich diet would yield lard that would basically be liquid at slaughter time. Although milk fat and body fat are obviously different, I don't see why the same or very similar dietary effect would not occur.
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Post# 1068796 , Reply# 6   4/23/2020 at 09:39 (1,456 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Land O Lakes Margarine, I have much better results with it than butter, and to me it tastes much better . |
Post# 1068799 , Reply# 7   4/23/2020 at 09:49 (1,456 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Kwik Trip/Kwik Star is running their $1.99/lb butter promo until 4/30. I've found it to be comparable in quality to Land O' Lakes. They source all their milk from within 100 miles of their corporate headquarters in LaCrosse, WI. Whenever they run this special, we stock up so that we have about 10lbs in the freezer.
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Post# 1068824 , Reply# 8   4/23/2020 at 10:46 (1,456 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Post# 1068828 , Reply# 9   4/23/2020 at 10:59 (1,456 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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I remember those bags of margarine with the orange tab inside . We never had it but my aunt next door used it and if I was there at the right time she'd let me squish the bag to mix in the coloring. The stuff here was almost orange looking.. Ontario apparently was the last place in N.America to keep that law on the books where margarine could not look like real butter, into the early 70s iirc , it was lighter and not orangey but you could tell which was which.
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Post# 1068829 , Reply# 10   4/23/2020 at 11:02 (1,456 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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I have been religiously buying my milk at Kwik Trip in the 1/2 Gallon bags. I'm not sure if it is due to the bag or the quality of the milk or ultra-pasteurization but it lasts and lasts. I don't go through a lot of milk so the typical half gallon jug has gone off for me when I have only used about 1/2 of it. With the bags I usually get to use it all, the milk is still fine at 2 weeks past the Sell By date!
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Post# 1068836 , Reply# 12   4/23/2020 at 11:35 (1,456 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Most milk here in Ontario is sold in litre size bags, a litre being slightly more than a US quart. You buy 3 bags in a bag, not individually. You put the bag into a plastic pitcher designed for them, then cut the corner off to pour.. They're good for freezing, but I find they can be messy. THere are still the traditional milk cartons but they only come in 2 qt and smaller sizes and I don't think there are any of the gallon size jugs here anymore. I think Ontario is the only province to use bagged milk,, could be wrong but they werent in Alberta
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Post# 1068847 , Reply# 13   4/23/2020 at 12:39 (1,456 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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I use Challenge Buttah that is only sold here at Shaw’s/ Star Market...I have seen it at Winn Dixie in Florida as well. I only buy this buttah when it’s on sale and inside the box is a lovely 55 cent coupon and Shaw’s will double said coupon to $1.10 ...this has been sale at $1.99 and with coupon it comes down to a cool .89 cents...so I stock up and freeze some....
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Post# 1068850 , Reply# 14   4/23/2020 at 12:57 (1,456 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Challenge Butter for $1.99 on sale! Here in Calif. it’s usually about $5.49 to 5.99 at reg price, on sale the lowest I’ve ever seen is $2.99. It’s the butter we always had at home, except for those few years in the mid 60’s when times were tight.
My cousins and I always called it “Deer Butter” when we were kids, because our grandparents used margarine, and thats what the called the “70 cents spread”, (remember that TV ad gimmick) of our mothers choice, which was of course Challenge.
You guys in the East seem to have much cheaper everything than we do on the West Coast.
Eddie
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Post# 1068851 , Reply# 15   4/23/2020 at 13:00 (1,456 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn)   |   | |
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Post# 1068854 , Reply# 16   4/23/2020 at 13:07 (1,456 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 1068855 , Reply# 17   4/23/2020 at 13:13 (1,456 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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KerryGold is good too but I use that only to spread on toast or in mashed taters. Yes it’s a tad pricey but I agree, oh so good!
On the Challenge Buttah it normally sells here for $4.99 a pound. It’s funny how the same butter is much higher priced in CA and that’s where it comes from. Shaw’s/ Star Market is part of Safeway Albertsons and when they merged we got a lot of goodies here in New England that was available only at Safeway. They got rid of the Safeway Select label for Signature Select because of all the other chains that they have. I also buy the Lucerne buttah as well. I do like the Land O Lakes premium butter to make cookies with but comes in at a cool $6 a box at Stop and Shop here. |
Post# 1068863 , Reply# 18   4/23/2020 at 15:06 (1,456 days old) by Labboy (SD, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 1068898 , Reply# 19   4/23/2020 at 19:42 (1,456 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1068920 , Reply# 22   4/23/2020 at 21:23 (1,456 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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I always leave the butter out and so did everyone on both sides of my family. A stick lasts anywhere from 2 to 5 days here and never tastes off.
My stepfathers family left it in the refrigerator and you could never butter a piece of toast or slice of bread without tearing it up. And BTW, these people were always plagued by some intestinal distress or another.
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Post# 1068932 , Reply# 23   4/23/2020 at 22:03 (1,456 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Well, I lived in SF from '63 to '69, when I left to go to college out of town. I don't remember any community preference for butter. At the time I'd use whatever was in the fridge. And yes, I refrigerate unused butter. If I need it softer, a few second in the microwave at a low power setting will handle that.
Last week I got 4 lbs of Kirkland brand butter at Costco for $7.19. That works out to $1.80/lb. To me it tastes the same as Challenge or other brand butters. I keep 1 lb in the butter bin in the fridge; the rest I vacuum wrap and freeze for later. Refrigerated butter may pick up off odors from the rest of the fridge, so I'll probably vacuum wrap all but the stick I'm using.
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Post# 1068952 , Reply# 24   4/24/2020 at 00:24 (1,456 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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When I was a young teen, my mom used to get a Danish butter that came in a yellow, white and brown tin. Can't remember the brand name. Boy, was that an eye opener. Prior to that it was usually Brookfield and Land-O-Lakes. She stopped buying it when the local supermarket stopped carrying it. Margarine was never a staple in my home. On occasion, the odd tub of Blue Bonnet or Chiffon would appear. Today I usually get Trader Joe's or Aldi's butter.
One of the joys of eating pancakes is cooking them in butter. Those crispy, buttery edges...Mmmmm! |
Post# 1068955 , Reply# 25   4/24/2020 at 00:48 (1,456 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)   |   | |
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I always keep butter out- hate hard butter, hence this topic. Also just keep extra butter in the fridge, 2-3 months without issue, never have frozen it. |
Post# 1068958 , Reply# 26   4/24/2020 at 01:31 (1,456 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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My mother hates butter. She always used Blue Bonnet or Shedd's Spread. Her mother used real butter for some things like her homemade rolls at Christmas and I liked it. Restaurants use real butter and I started liking it so when I moved out on my own I started buying real butter, typically at Save-a-Lot or Aldi unless Walmart or Kroger has it on sale. I've always wanted to try Kerry Gold but just haven't yet. We really don't use that much unless I'm baking or we have baked potatoes or if I fix some popcorn. I switched to Lactaid milk a few years ago due to the shelf life being longer than regular milk. It's ultrapasturized. At the time I didn't use much milk and kept powdered milk in the house for cooking and regular milk for the occasional bowl of cereal before bed in the morning. I tend to eat more cereal now (and my waist shows it). |
Post# 1068965 , Reply# 28   4/24/2020 at 02:26 (1,456 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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I only use unsalted butter. I don't like salted butter with sweet things and the flavour of unsalted butter is what I'm addicted to. Especially butter from grass fed cows like Kerrygold (weidebutter in German where I used to buy it). I keep half a pack (around a stick) on the counter as well. My regular breakfast is toasted raisin bread with butter and cinnamon. Yummie!
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Post# 1068987 , Reply# 29   4/24/2020 at 06:03 (1,456 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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of the Indian squaw on Land-O-Lakes butter, they are removing her from the label. |
Post# 1068992 , Reply# 30   4/24/2020 at 06:43 (1,456 days old) by retro-man (- boston,ma)   |   | |
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For those of us in the northeaster US we have Hood ultra milk. I bought some on the 22nd of April and the expiration date is June 3rd. I use the fat free and it is the best no fat milk I have ever drank, and I use it in cooking also. Jon |
Post# 1068994 , Reply# 31   4/24/2020 at 06:49 (1,456 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 1069002 , Reply# 32   4/24/2020 at 07:45 (1,456 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Post# 1069004 , Reply# 33   4/24/2020 at 07:59 (1,456 days old) by eronie (Flushing Michigan)   |   | |
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Does anyone know what this is? |
Post# 1069006 , Reply# 34   4/24/2020 at 08:07 (1,456 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 1069013 , Reply# 35   4/24/2020 at 09:00 (1,456 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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we now use only butter, and lots of it. Keep in the freezer until 1 day before use, then kept in fridge section, to use sliced in pats on toast & whatever... never spread.
We like Cabot Vermont butter best, also the French (Brittany) butter from Trader Joe's and Kerrygold is good too but prefer the French when feeling flush. However home-made butter from Vermont cream is easy to make in a jar and is much better that any of those, no comparison, our son in VT makes it from time to time. |
Post# 1069014 , Reply# 36   4/24/2020 at 09:08 (1,456 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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It's called a "one click butter cutter"...
Cause, you know, butter is so hard to cut with a knife...
CLICK HERE TO GO TO SudsMaster's LINK
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Post# 1069020 , Reply# 37   4/24/2020 at 09:36 (1,455 days old) by eronie (Flushing Michigan)   |   | |
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Yes. I love it. It cuts nice uniform pats. It sits out on the counter, an no messy butter dish. |
Post# 1069021 , Reply# 38   4/24/2020 at 09:48 (1,455 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)   |   | |
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When I was growing up, my parents always bought margarine.
Mom would use sticks for cooking/baking, and we always had a tub of something for spreading. Greg, thank you for mentioning Shedd's. That was the most recent one I remember them buying. I think they believed margarine was healthier because it didn't have the fat of butter. When I met my now in-laws, they only used butter. I thought they were trying to be all hoity toity or something. But, MIL's thought was, I'd rather eat the fat in butter than the chemicals in margarine. So, now we use butter almost exclusively. And, we do leave the stick that we're using out at room temperature. We usually buy Land O' Lakes. Yes, I will miss the Indian/native American woman on the package. Sometimes political correctness does go too far. I certainly don't think she's presented in a disrespectful way. *steps down from soap box* I did recently buy a package of stick margarine, (also Land O' Lakes), to make my mom's old layer cake filling recipe that specifically called for it. That required one half stick. I don't know what I'm going to do with the rest of the package. Unless I start baking a lot more cakes! Oh...twist my arm! Barry |
Post# 1069022 , Reply# 39   4/24/2020 at 09:57 (1,455 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 1069024 , Reply# 40   4/24/2020 at 10:04 (1,455 days old) by eronie (Flushing Michigan)   |   | |
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Actually it is more consistent in the pats at room temp. |
Post# 1069026 , Reply# 41   4/24/2020 at 10:11 (1,455 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)   |   | |
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Post# 1069027 , Reply# 42   4/24/2020 at 10:19 (1,455 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I have only used Smart Balance Original for the last decade or so, It tastes great and is much better for you than regular margarine and lower fat than butter.
Jason and I have been having milk delivered weekly from a local dairy for at least the last 5 years in glass bottles, it seems to taste better and often still tastes great nearly 30 days after the use by date. John L. |
Post# 1069028 , Reply# 43   4/24/2020 at 10:19 (1,455 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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When my family first moved to the Northern Calif. Coast in 64’ our neighbors up the road were sheep ranchers, but they also had 2 dairy cows and they sold us the excess milk for 50 cents a gal. Mom would drive over with a 1 gal glass jar and Mrs. Pedotti would fill it with the fresh un pasteurized and un homogenized milk. The cream would rise to the top about 4.5 inches of the jar. We would skim off about 3” of the cream for butter and cream, and stir the remainder into the milk. Of course everytime you wanted to pour a glass or milk you would need to stir the pitcher to mix the cream back into the milk, because it was un homogenized.
Since I was the oldest kid at age 13 it was my job to make the butter. I would put the cream into the large bowl of our Dormeyer Stand mixer and beat it on high until it turned to butter and the wye began to separate from the butter. Then I put the butter into a cheesecloth lined strainer and twist the cheesecloth to remove as much of the wye as possible, then I added a small amount of salt and put it into a butter dish. I didn’t form it into a stick or cube, we just used it from the butter dish, which was actually a small covered bowl.
We used to have plenty of cream for whipping. We bought at least 3 gals a week. My siblings and I drank at least a quart with each meal and the milk ran out fast in our home.
Sadly, after about 18 mo.of this the neighbors lost one of their dairy cows and then only had enough milk for their own use and couldn’t sell us the fresh milk anymore. Thats when we had to switch to Imperial Margarine for about two years. We also drank Milkman Powdered Low Fat Milk during that poor spell, that was a real come down, but we got used to it. I really hated mixing up that milk powder.
My Mom was a widow with 3 kids and it was hard for a few years in the mid 60’s. But I have fond memories of making the butter for the family.
Eddie
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Post# 1069030 , Reply# 44   4/24/2020 at 10:31 (1,455 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Post# 1069106 , Reply# 45   4/24/2020 at 20:04 (1,455 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1069137 , Reply# 46   4/25/2020 at 06:12 (1,455 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 1069142 , Reply# 47   4/25/2020 at 06:19 (1,455 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Post# 1069222 , Reply# 48   4/25/2020 at 12:21 (1,454 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Post# 1069228 , Reply# 49   4/25/2020 at 13:07 (1,454 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)   |   | |
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I recall liking rice with butter and cinnamon sugar. |
Post# 1069725 , Reply# 51   4/28/2020 at 14:35 (1,451 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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This is the Shaw’s ad for next week...Challenge Buttah 2 for $5.00...with 2 .55 coupons double to $1.10 each brings it to $1.40 each so that would be a cool $2.80 for both.....I am stocking up!
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Post# 1069850 , Reply# 52   4/29/2020 at 08:32 (1,451 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Until 1967, margarine sales were illegal in WI. Restaurants here still can't legally serve colored margarine unless a customer specifically asks for it.
My Mom remembers visiting family as a young girl in MN, and Beloit, WI (on WI/Il state line) and bringing home a trunk full of Blue Bonnet for friends and family.
https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/wisconsin-waged-war-on-margarine-and-the-dairy-industry-won/ |
Post# 1069875 , Reply# 54   4/29/2020 at 12:03 (1,450 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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As for keeping butter... most fridges have a "butter compartment" in the door, where the temp is liable to be a bit warmer than the rest of the fridge. Usually they are at the top of the door, with the expectation of further warming. Anyway, that's where I keep my butter stick in current usage. I'm gonna have to start storing the rest of the pound of butter in the colder portion of the fridge, though.
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Post# 1069877 , Reply# 55   4/29/2020 at 12:08 (1,450 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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Land O'Lakes is pretty much a staple. If they suddenly stopped making it, society would gasp.
Fresh made pop corn wouldn't be the same without 2 tablespoons of melted butter.
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Post# 1069899 , Reply# 56   4/29/2020 at 14:34 (1,450 days old) by hobbyapocalypse (Northeast Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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I don't know about Land o'Lakes butter. I usually buy Aldi's brand and have never been disappointed with it, but once I needed butter and was in another store and bought Land o'Lakes instead. It didn't taste right. I didn't think it was spoiled, but not as good as Aldi's. Maybe it's just what you get used to?
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Post# 1069906 , Reply# 57   4/29/2020 at 15:33 (1,450 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Post# 1070052 , Reply# 59   4/30/2020 at 09:19 (1,449 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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