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Post# 1069066   4/24/2020 at 15:35 (1,455 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)        

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I have not picked it up just yet. I plan to get it tomorrow. The Seller says it's loud. so it needs either new bearings or a new spider arm. LG has very robust spider arms but even they eventually break. If the spider seal seam is rough I will sand it down a little. if the spider is broken then I'll replace it. Cost for all the parts would be about $140 (if the spider and bearings are both bad). I use SKF bearings on my machines like Member LorainFurniture does. What are the numbers of the 2 bearings I would need? Also is the sanitary cycle on this thing as hot as the steam one. WM2487HWMA? LG says the Steam on the WM2487HWM is a 210 degrees Fahrenheit wash with live steam injected into the top. When I find the steam one I'll steal the panel and steam generator from it. The only thing I wish this one had was the 6 motion technology. But I can move past it because I can find a WM2140CW. Anyways I finally have something to replace the piece of garbage Frigidaire Gallery GLTR1670AS1.

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Post# 1069102 , Reply# 1   4/24/2020 at 19:40 (1,455 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
LG FL Washer With Bad Bearings

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Hi Kelly, This should be a fun project, the best way to learn about different machines is to tear into them and then use them when you get them going for at least a while even if they are not the best machines ion the first place.

 

I was wondering what you meant when you said the spider seam seal may be rough, I don't think there is such a part, It also matters little what type bearings you use the real concern is the water seal and the quality of the seal area where the seal lips ride and the quality of the steel shaft itself.

 

Keep us posted

 

John L.


Post# 1069108 , Reply# 2   4/24/2020 at 20:20 (1,455 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)        
SANITIZING CYCLE

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It was told to me, that this cycle only raises the temp by about 10 degrees. I might be incorrect, but that was what I was told.
Hugs,
David


Post# 1069158 , Reply# 3   4/25/2020 at 08:59 (1,454 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
Sanitize

Most Sanitize cycles target 155°F. Generally they will heat until that temp, or heat for a certain amount of time before giving up. The incoming tap hot will determine performance. In general, a 1000 watt heater can heat 5 gallons of water from 120 to 140°F in 15 minutes.

Post# 1069261 , Reply# 4   4/25/2020 at 16:17 (1,454 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)        
Bearings are OK enough for me to put in action.

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Bearings are OK enough for me to put in action. What are the numbers for the 2 bearings I know one of them is the 6206 but is there another 6206 or is it a 6207. I don't want to remove the bearings yet they are fine for now it sounds like a Boeing 717-200 Rampping up then the sound goes away. the tub is steady and it is no louder then my Frigidaire. It sounds like a "Smart Drive" cabrio/bravo/oasis with a worn bearing. it is not shot unlike the MAH5500BWW.

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Post# 1069435 , Reply# 5   4/26/2020 at 17:47 (1,453 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)        
is this thread Dead?

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no one seems to be replying

Post# 1069439 , Reply# 6   4/26/2020 at 18:46 (1,453 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)        
Spinning

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This machine will try I think 3 or 4 times to have a balanced spin. Turns off the vibration sensor and will switch to only the tub displacement sensor. After 20-22 unsuccessful attempts the machine will stop and call for help.

Post# 1069493 , Reply# 7   4/27/2020 at 03:26 (1,452 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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I wish I could help you but I've never messed with an LG machine.


Post# 1069902 , Reply# 8   4/29/2020 at 15:07 (1,450 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
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I've never worked on lg, but I've used them. The best I can do is determine which part is making the noise.

Post# 1071745 , Reply# 9   5/10/2020 at 08:39 (1,439 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)        
I'll be documenting a bearing replacement soon.

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I still use this machine but whenever I am tired of the noise I will document it.
I completely forgot to Document the Neptune TL I was so excited to get it going. But This LG is on the 3 way tie of my most favorite machines I have. This one
The Neptune TL and the Calypso.


Post# 1072893 , Reply# 10   5/16/2020 at 21:57 (1,433 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)        
The original spider's seal collar is damaged. UGH!

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Well that's another $100 into this for me. John This is what I was talking about for a broken seam. If I just put the machine back together then the collar will just chew up the new seal. I'll update when the new one comes in I guess

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Post# 1072950 , Reply# 11   5/17/2020 at 08:46 (1,432 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Its All About The Seal And Seal Surface

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Hi Kelly, yes you need a new spider and shaft, It does not look like LG used a very good material for the seal collar [ not surprising ], however this washer was also clearly mistreated.

 

This washer did not see nearly enough detergent for water conditions,

 

The wash clothes in a FL Washer

 

Always use the hot setting, minimum wash temperature needs to be.100F or above.

 

Use plenty of GOOD detergent, you really can not use too much, too little is the major cause of mineral and crud build-ups in washer.

 

Use LCB whenever possible.

 

John L.


Post# 1072990 , Reply# 12   5/17/2020 at 14:08 (1,432 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Combo52:  Use plenty of GOOD detergent, you really can not use too much, too little is the major cause of mineral and crud build-ups in washer.
John, there are many folks who disagree, including service techs.  I've seen numerous advisories on other discussion boards to use no more than 1 tablespoon to as little as 1 TEASPOON of detergent.


Post# 1072991 , Reply# 13   5/17/2020 at 14:25 (1,432 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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To avoid mineral buildup, which in turn may help prolong seal life, regularly add some STPP to load to keep mineral deposits from forming on washer surfaces and components.

I add about a tablespoon per load, unless the load is very sensitive to mild alkalinity (like silk/woolens, which are better hand washed anyway).


Post# 1072992 , Reply# 14   5/17/2020 at 14:55 (1,432 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Amount Of Detergent To Use In A Washer

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Hi Glenn I totally disagree, unfortunately appliance techs are not always the best people to ask, they also tell people to rinse their dishes before putting them in a DW.

 

Please explain what putting twice the amount of detergent in a washer will do to it, detergent can not build-up as it dissolves easily in even cold water.

 

I have studied this for over 45 years and watched how customers use their machines and then dissembled thousands of them and have seen the results first hand of the condition of the outer tubs, hoses, pumps, etc etc.

 

John L.


Post# 1072996 , Reply# 15   5/17/2020 at 15:15 (1,432 days old) by agiflow3 ()        

Hi John, would using powdered detergent or liquid be better for a front loader? I have fairly hard water and liquid doesn't give the water a slick feeling like powder does. So is that slick feeling the water softening agents which I assume would be better for washer parts ?

Post# 1072997 , Reply# 16   5/17/2020 at 15:32 (1,432 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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John, scant detergent dosage is to *avoid* residue and mold, which they say is *caused* by too much detergent.

There's also a large faction paranoid about suds to the point that a few bubbles of aerated water in the last rinse is considered a serious problem.  Some operate on the belief that any suds with HE detergent in the wash period is indication of an overdose ... the dosage aim is zero suds at all times.

I also disagree ... am just reporting what I continually read on various other boards.


Post# 1073013 , Reply# 17   5/17/2020 at 16:45 (1,432 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

There sure as hell can be to much detergent just as much as there can be to litlle.

The whole teaspoon or tablespoon thing is just absurd.



There is a reason manufacturers give you dosing guides and helps and spoons and while they are more often then not kind of off or hard to follow intentionally, dosing a tenth or even less of what they recomend is just not gonna result in any usable cleaning, really.

Good though kind of weired comparisson:
On a usual night out I drink like 5 vodka sodas to get pretty tipsy but not really gone drunk.
That is 10 shots of vodka.
If I drink just one shot nobody would agree I would be equally drunk.
If I drink twice as much nobody would agree that would be the same result.
Verry few - including me - would probably notice the difference in a range from 8-12 shots quite as exactly.



Detergent works just the same.


Post# 1073275 , Reply# 18   5/19/2020 at 03:45 (1,430 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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I dunno.

I tried drinking an HE Cocktail and all it did was make me want to vomit.


Post# 1076045 , Reply# 19   6/6/2020 at 13:24 (1,412 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)        
Put back together but rubbing sound now.

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I put calk in the very center of the spider arm. now I think a piece broke off and is caught between the shaft and tub seal. I'm worried that this might chew up the new seal and I'll have to get another one and another spider. or will this stop overtime or will the small piece dry up into dust or will the small piece dissolve?

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Post# 1076226 , Reply# 20   6/7/2020 at 17:32 (1,411 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Does it make that sound when the sump is full?


Post# 1076228 , Reply# 21   6/7/2020 at 17:36 (1,411 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Agiflow,

If you have hard water your best bet would be to secure some real STPP (Sodium TriPolyPhosphate) and add an tablespoon or more as needed to soften the water.

The slick feeling of the water comes from alkalinity. Alkalinity helps to deal with fatty soils, but is not absolutely required for cleaning. For example, detergents for silks and wools are neutral, not alkaline. STPP will however make the water slick but it's milder than the usual alkalinity agent, Sodium carbonate, in most powders.


Post# 1076589 , Reply# 22   6/10/2020 at 12:53 (1,408 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)        
The rubbing is intermittent. comes only once in a while

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It stops after a shaky spin or a high spin. I think it is just tiny bits of debris falling on the shaft and then it being dissolved or falling off and being pumped out on spin.

Post# 1076595 , Reply# 23   6/10/2020 at 13:09 (1,408 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
pump

Did you check the pump? What is the pressure and flow rate?

Post# 1077485 , Reply# 24   6/17/2020 at 01:20 (1,401 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)        
this thread is dead, I know it

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this thread is dead, I know it. The rubbing sound now only happens when its wet. Think it is the drum rubbing on the boot a little

Post# 1077510 , Reply# 25   6/17/2020 at 10:22 (1,401 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
tub alignment

I would check the tub alignment and make sure the boot isn't rubbing. Be careful. It is extra-heavy, especially because of the counterweights and how front loaders are. It's basically a residential version of a commercial laundromat washer.

Post# 1084545 , Reply# 26   8/10/2020 at 01:27 (1,347 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)        
More Projects and Got it all working properly

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REVIVE THE THREAD! I found a close match gas dryer. I swapped the Drum and Added plastic under the spider to slow corrosion like on the Maytag Neptune FL washer

I installed the older Domed drum to allow more area for water to splash around the spider to keep it clean. I put plastic sheeting from a defective original Neptune board and pump. It is holding up well. I never use COLD except for stuffed animals and always select the highest spin speed allowed on any given cycle and I use the sanitize cycle once in a while when I do whites. LCB is not good for the septic system and My dad is not too fond of me using the Insinkerator Evolution Compact to add more organic matter to speed up digestion and produce more of the good bacteria that it needs. I need to save up and get the Evolution septic assist if I need to use LCB whenever possible.


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