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Post# 1077025   6/14/2020 at 02:49 (1,404 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

Hi all,
I thought the time is right to reveal my Brand New washing machine!
After 7 years of my old Hotpoint, I have finally got round to upgrading, and I have chosen a Top of the Range 10KG, 1600 Spin Bosch washing Machine.
Here in the UK its called Serie | 8 (but its actually the Home professional range in other markets).
So far I've used a few cycles, and it seems really great! There's the rather cool 4D jet with Vortex style wash, and distributions throughout.
The 10 KG drum is massive. I haven't even been able to fill it to even half yet!!!
The machine holds the Final spin at 1600 for 5 Minutes too, washing is so much drier than inside the old Hotpoint. And despite this one having the faster 1600 spin speed. The noise is significantly reduced compared to the old Hotpoint (which was a supposed "Super silent" wash).

I have attached some pictures below of the new machine and also some videos of it! I'd appreciate you all taking a little look, and of course subscribing to my youtube channel! There are videos of the 4D which spends different times on in different cycles! (The 4D doesn't seem to come on if washing of 70C or above).
I've also made a video showing the ASR menu. There currently wasn't a video on youtube of this, set to each programme. So now, Finally you can all see the duration of each stain selection accross each selected programme!

The Hotpoint has been sold, so there is also some pictures of it being cleaned and removed!

Thanks all for reading, and I look forward to reading your comments!

Vids (details in the descriptions of the videos on youtube!):
Unboxing, Installation and Drum Cleaning:



Programme overview & Main menu:



Stains Overview:



4D Wash Rhythm (mini clip):




(more videos further down forum)

Pictures:


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Post# 1077026 , Reply# 1   6/14/2020 at 02:52 (1,404 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
Extra Videos

Mixed Load 60C Cycle:
New cycle. Previously they only allowed upto 40C on the Mixed load!
Includes a little vortex phase, and short 1600 Final Spin!

Part 1:





Part 2:





Part 3:





Mini clip: Mixed Load Speed Perfect: 45 Minute quick wash, with a short 1600 Final Spin, and jet washing throughout!





Post# 1077027 , Reply# 2   6/14/2020 at 02:57 (1,404 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
Videos:

Cottons cycles:

Cottons 60 Cycle with Chocolate stain selected.
This includes the main part of the 1600 spin cycle (which holds at 1600 for 5 minutes! Achieving brilliant spin dry results!).





Towels cycle set to 70C:
(at 70C and above it doesn't do the Vortex) The Towels programme has a special extended fluffing spin, which helps draw up the water from the towels, bringing it to the surface! very clever!





Super 15':
Very short express programme, for washing mini loads of cottons quickly (still does a vortex! Taking only 15 minutes). New: now allows Extra rinse of upto 3 extra!





More videos on Youtube!
Mat,
Glenfieldmathk1


Post# 1077034 , Reply# 3   6/14/2020 at 03:34 (1,404 days old) by Logixx (Germany)        

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For months I have been searching for these... and this week three of them have suddenly popped up on YouTube channels. 😁 Thanks for sharing (though I'll have to watch them later).

Post# 1077036 , Reply# 4   6/14/2020 at 04:18 (1,404 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

If they would give me a reversing dryer I would be finally really considering these.

Wouldn't go iDos though, ActiveOxygen and Siemens would be more my style.



Nice to see them adding a weight based load sensing system ontop of their absorbency based system plus a recirculation (and verry Well amed and verry quiet one at that) all at once.

Do you know by any chance how much the time Drops when the Cotton cycle senses down?


Post# 1077039 , Reply# 5   6/14/2020 at 05:25 (1,403 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Reversing Dryer

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In 2002 I bought a Bosch Axxis set.  It had a reversing dryer which I really liked but the damn thing was noisy.  It was in a utility room off the kitchen and you could hear it in the family room.


Post# 1077041 , Reply# 6   6/14/2020 at 05:42 (1,403 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

Hi Guys, Thanks for your comments.
The lack of reversing dryer is sort of making me hold off buying the matching dryer (for now at least!.. The matching dryer having the new Complete self clean).
As mentioned above, the old Bosch did reverse, so i really cant see why these new ones can't.

The washer itself is great, and no this isn't an iDos one! The UK is due to get a TOL with iDos soon, but its been delayed by the Pandemic. Its a shame we don't get the Active oxygen here or I would of chosen it! TBH.. I prefer the one without iDos, as I use powder more anyway, and I don't really see the point in the Auto cycles (which apparently aren't great). Mines got Towels instead which would get more use by us than an Auto / Soft for example!

Thanks Logixx, Its nice to see you're still here, I haven't really been on here in ages! Yes i too noticed quite a few of these have all started to appear on youtube! Before there was none, only the previous ranges. I guess now people are uploading them, we might see more collectors go for them, as the jet itself is pretty impressive for a Bosch! Still got the classic door fill jet too!

Thanks Henene as well, Some good points you raise. The load sensor as you add the laundry does adjust the estimated time! During the wash the timer regularly updates, not just after 10 minutes.. The Load of whites I washed in the video above on cottons was a whole hour shorter than the original estimate. It dropped off 20 minutes during load adjust. It dropped off some more time mid way through the wash, and then it deleted a rinse cycle, as they still have Aqua Sensor (although no longer appears on the display). The other thing I've noticed on cottons, if the load is only half full the final spin gets upto 1600 quicker and holds there for 5 minutes. With a bigger load, the final spin is longer, and each stage before 1600 is held longer - with 1600 being reached and still held for 5 minutes! Speed perfect now also seems to do the full cottons final spin rather than a short one!


Post# 1077043 , Reply# 7   6/14/2020 at 06:42 (1,403 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
That's really great to hear

Now I want one.

The older machines were kind of meh always in my opinion. Load sensing didn't drop time much.
And redults were good, but nothing special.


Post# 1077082 , Reply# 8   6/14/2020 at 15:00 (1,403 days old) by Logixx (Germany)        
Off topic

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I just realized that YouTube automatically puts the chapters /timestamps you put in the description in the video's timeline as well. 😳

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Post# 1077089 , Reply# 9   6/14/2020 at 16:09 (1,403 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        
It has a sealed tub...!

Bosch lists it as Item: 0308 - 'Oscillating System Complete'.

Scroll through the exploded diagrams to '5/5'.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO Rolls_rapide's LINK


Post# 1077127 , Reply# 10   6/14/2020 at 21:10 (1,403 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Mat, thank you for all the videos.  I've just looked at the first 2 or 3.  I still get so darn jealous of all the flexibility and command of specific temperatures rather than word descriptions with no real idea of what cool, warm, hot and extra hot mean on our front loaders here.  Love the intense recirculating spray.  The Whirlpool/Maytag are quite anemic in comparison and even the LG Turbowash spray during wash & rinse. I look forward to viewing all the videos over the next day or two.    Sad to know in reality, most Americans wouldn't know how to deal with such choices and being able to be ore specific in temperatures and spin speeds.  But I wonder if bosch will present an Americanized version of these some day.  


Post# 1077143 , Reply# 11   6/14/2020 at 23:07 (1,403 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
cottons

What is the default setting for the cottons cycle? I'd like to see how it would perform with the jets active. I'm sure this washer would give lg a run for their money on the comparable cotton/normal cycle.

Post# 1077163 , Reply# 12   6/15/2020 at 03:23 (1,403 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

Thanks Logixx.. Yes New Youtube feature that I tried out! I know most people skip through videos, so this allows people to fast forward, yet still catch the stages they want to see!!

Rolls_Rapide.. I believe pretty much everything on the market these days except for Miele and Ebac have sealed tubs. Its the "norm" now unfortunately! Its got a 2 year warranty. We will extend this with their service plan afterwards, so nothing to worry about there. I'm sure with Siemens versions having 5 year Warranty.. its got to be OK! Of course, its a little annoying. :(

Thanks Appnut.. Yes so far the Jet is great. I added a new video to Youtube showing the Towels programme set to 60C - which also uses the jet too (my video above its on 70C so doesn't use the jet!). I've seen the LG's too, was considering one tbh.. they have 4 jets. But as far as I am aware they don't do the vortex spin with jet on like this Bosch does!

GELaundry4Ever.. I sent you a reply on Youtube!
The cottons wash takes between 2hr30 and 3hr45 depending on load size, and settings (and upto 5hr45 with some stains!) - A video premieres later today on Youtube of the cottons wash including jet action!

Thanks everyone so far for your great comments :)


Post# 1077164 , Reply# 13   6/15/2020 at 03:25 (1,403 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
Towels Programme with jet

60C jet action on the Towels cycle. (about 3/4 full of towels)
Uses plenty of water! The jet really helps give such splash! Very Deep cooldown level.





Post# 1077167 , Reply# 14   6/15/2020 at 05:32 (1,402 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        
Sealed tubs...

That's the whole point... the German ones, i.e. your model, have a sealed tub. Your's will have been one of the most expensive models.

Don't get me wrong, I hope your machine lasts a long time with no hassles, but I just wish manufacturers 'would come clean' and be a bit more forthcoming with information and repairability in the first place.

My mum has one of the recent Polish built ones, at half the price, (I think it is a Series 4, with the all-metal drum... 1400rpm) the metal lifter paddles are an inherent part of the drum, not detachable plastic ones.

The tub in that one is splittable, with front half, rear half (with bearings in situ), drum with attached spider/shaft, tub seal and screws, and shaft seal all available.

Diagram 3/5.


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Post# 1077285 , Reply# 15   6/15/2020 at 19:38 (1,402 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
cycle preset

Does this machine have a cycle preset? On my lg and Kenmore elite, I use the normal cycle. it defaults to warm, high speed spin, and normal level of soil with accelawash/turbowash.

Post# 1077315 , Reply# 16   6/16/2020 at 01:36 (1,402 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
Cycle preset

When you turn the machine on it sets to Cotton (Normal) at 40C, 1600spin, no options.

Each programme you select automatically chooses a default temperature and spin speed, You can still adjust the programme further (a few examples are shown below):
Cottons 40, 1600 (Max 90, Max 1600)
Eco 40, 1600 (Max 90, Max 1600)
Easy Care 40, 1200 (Max 60, Max 1200)
Mixed 40, 1400 (Max 60, Max 1600)
Delicates, silk 30, 800 (Max 40, Max 800)
Towels 60, 1200 (Max 90, Max 1600)
Duvet 40, 1000 (Max 60, Max 1200)
Allergy + 60, 1600 (Max 60, Max 1600)
Shirts 40, 800 (Max 60, Max 800 - or - Max 400 with Easy Iron option)
etc.


Post# 1077378 , Reply# 17   6/16/2020 at 14:51 (1,401 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
thanks for the cycle info

Thanks for the cycle info. I'd love to see how the default cottons cycle performs. Do the jets come on automatically, or can you add that option?

Post# 1077651 , Reply# 18   6/18/2020 at 05:53 (1,399 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
Default Cottons

I've just uploaded these videos showing the cottons with a bigger load.

Load detection:





Main Wash:





I've also added many other videos, see my Youtube Channel for those:


CLICK HERE TO GO TO glenfieldmathk1's LINK


Post# 1077699 , Reply# 19   6/18/2020 at 12:34 (1,399 days old) by Lavamat_jon (UK)        

Glad you’re enjoying your new Bosch, Matt. We’ve had the Siemens version since early February and are really liking ours too. The Mixed Fabrics cycle is the most used here - 40 deg wash and 1600 spin in 45 mins, or 60 deg and 1600 spin in an hour. The spinning results are fantastic - best I’ve ever used, and it also rinses very well on the default setting.

The jet action is really great, very thorough and the spin washing is fun to watch.

I’m not keen on the powerSpeed cycle myself - it’s quite poorly programmed and I find the cycle quite redundant as the Mixed Fabrics programme washes the same load in a similar time, but you can spin at max speed and go hotter on the temperature. One downside with powerSpeed is that it also doesn’t spin between the rinses, whereas Mixed will.

I have posted some full cycle videos on my YouTube - there’s plenty uploaded and scheduled for the next while too so keep your eye out :-).

All the best

Jon


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Post# 1077739 , Reply# 20   6/18/2020 at 17:38 (1,399 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
options

What options are available for each cycle?

Post# 1077742 , Reply# 21   6/18/2020 at 17:58 (1,399 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
cottons/intensive

How does it do with cottons/intensive?

Post# 1077762 , Reply# 22   6/18/2020 at 19:29 (1,399 days old) by Logixx (Germany)        
Options

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Can be found in the user manual

media3.bosch-home.com/Documents/...


Post# 1077766 , Reply# 23   6/18/2020 at 19:51 (1,399 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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A question.  Why is a load of towels, using that programme, limited to only 4 kg, why cannot you be able to fill the drum to whereby you place a fist a the top of the load and that is full?  Some of my towels probably weigh 1 kg each.  


Post# 1077824 , Reply# 24   6/19/2020 at 06:33 (1,398 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        
Towels, 4kg load

Probably because of the absorbency of the heavier material, chances of out-of-balance load, and the suds factor too.

You would be able to wash towels in the 10kg load, provided you had other items in there too, such as cotton t-shirts, sheets, etc.

Other machines of the past recommended similar, including to mix towels with other articles.

Hoover said in their 'New Wave' instructions: "Maximum wash load: 4.5kg (10lb) **". The footnote said: "** Reduce the load to 2.5kg (5.5lb) for highly absorbent materials, such as towels and nappies."


Post# 1077825 , Reply# 25   6/19/2020 at 06:45 (1,398 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Modern load sensing European front loaders

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For certain programs no longer recommend loading to full capacity as in drum volume minus that formed fist.

This and you'd be surprised what these machines consider 100% rated load.

Filing drum barely three-quarters with AEG Lavamt of mixed load will read "100%".

Loading drum full as with older Miele W1070 (to top minus that fist) will have machine reading 110% or 120% meaning it is over loaded.

Terry cloth items of course are very absorbent. The more "thick and thirsty" or large in size, the greater amount of water they hold. In terms of a washing machine you have to consider weight of items when fully wet, and of course how to handle extraction of all that water.

When doing very absorbent loads in AEG (towel, a blanket, etc....) machine will often have to stop or greatly slow down spinning to allow pump to catch up. It just sits there with pump pulse cycling on and off until sump is clear. If this water is also full of froth that just adds to machine's work.

Finally of course they just don't built them like they used to. Ten kilograms of dry toweling/absorbent items is easily weighs twice or more when fully wet, that can put strain on certain parts I shouldn't wonder if they aren't built to last.


Post# 1077828 , Reply# 26   6/19/2020 at 07:10 (1,398 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Also keep in mind that toweling isn't terribly dense.

They are often labeled as 500g/m², meaning a 200cm*100cm towel (that's Just shy of 80" by 40") is about 1kg or Just about 2lbs.

My usual towel load consists of 2 such towels and 4 half that length in either Side plus 4 somewhat denser bathmats made of cotton and that Just about fills the drum of my 68l washers, so Just 2l smaller than that 10kg washers.


Post# 1077844 , Reply# 27   6/19/2020 at 10:57 (1,398 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

@GeLaundry4Ever Yes, Logixx posted the link to the manual.
There are plenty of options / programmes, of which all are listed in the manual, and also shown in my video overview above!
The AntiStain allows a selection of 16 stains, all of which change the wash cycle accordingly (more intensive wash, more heat, or heat maintaining and add a soak etc).
There are features to add upto 3 extra rinses, extra water (although on some programmes the difference in extra water is only little!), silent washing, Rinsholding, short wash (speedPerfect), IntensivePlus (extended wash time), pre-wash etc.
The options are so flexible its really great !

As for the Towels wash, as long as towels are dry before loading - I have filled it upto 4KG (according to the loading bar on the display which appears when the door is open): 4 Large Bath Sheets (Quality Egyptian cotton ones), 3 Hand Towels, 5 Tea Towels, 4 Flannels and 2 standard size bath towels. Generally towels get very heavy when wet, so I'd imagine that's the case of not being able to load more to that cycle. The Towels cycle also uses a rather long final spin with fluffing technique so I guess Bosch want to ensure there's enough space in the drum to do this effectively!
I decided to use Rinse Hold when washing Towels, I then select the separate 1600 spin when I'm in a hurry to finish towels, as the separate final spin holds at 1600 for 5 minutes, yet takes half the time of the towels final spin sequence! (always great when you find little tricks hidden within the machine!).

Thanks Jon for your nice comment! Your Siemens is a great machine too - very similar indeed! I'm still experimenting with different cycles! But I'm with you in the Cottons Speed wash, and Mixed load cycles are very good! Also quite liking Mixed Load with IntensivePlus option (Which I think now is more like your PowerSpeed 59' programme but with Intermediate spins). Was also quite impressed with the 30 minute wash (For refreshing)! Plenty of jet action (a much better cycle than my old Hotpoints short 30 minute wash)!


Post# 1078048 , Reply# 28   6/20/2020 at 21:04 (1,397 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Well, I guess I won't be trying to squeeze five bath sheets into the W1918. It has no load sensing, but my common sense tells me that if four bath sheets was about all I could reasonably fit in there, then five bath sheets would be too much sheet.

 


Post# 1078108 , Reply# 29   6/21/2020 at 09:15 (1,396 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Thank you for the explanation.  I have to admit, I do go buy volume of what's filling up the drum with towels.  I have 2 sets of larger than usual towels I bought at Target several years ago.  They were "guest towel" status for a long time and weren't used much.  The bath towels aren't "bath sheet" size, but are the biggest towels I have snd they are quite thick.  There are a total of 8 towels, wash cloths, and some hand towels that comprise this load.  The other 6 towel sets are anywhere from 1982 to 1988 purchase dates.  So they've lost a lot of their bulk/thickness over time, but till dry nicely.  I don't quit using towels until holes appear and they last a lot longer with the front loader than with the Lady Shredmore.  The load has just enough of the fist at the top of the load.  And truth be told, the load balances better this full vs. 3/4 full.  And all my loads try to pretty much consist of like items in style and weight (as per a Sears repairman from early 1960s).  I don't do loads of mixed various weights and types.  i.e. shirts & pans or underwear and sheets.  


Post# 1078163 , Reply# 30   6/21/2020 at 19:25 (1,396 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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How much one can fill Miele W1070 with, versus what one should are two different things.

Learned long ago filling Big Bertha to that proverbial "fist width of room" at top can cause a load so heavy tub scrapes bottom underneath. More so during rinses where this washer uses copious amounts of water (compared to modern units anyway).

After spending dear to have shocks replaced, and rather more so for suspension springs am in no mood to push things.

This is probably is reason behind the abuse Americans put front loaders through, and why so many end up as toast after barely a few years of service. Constant over loading probably brought on by wanting to get things over with quicker by shoving much as possible into machine.

Then again have seen people do same at laundromats. Literally having to lead (or use their foot) to get door closed.






Post# 1078187 , Reply# 31   6/22/2020 at 01:44 (1,396 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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And yet Laundress's video shows the recommendation to ALWAYS load the Unimac washer FULLY. They go by weight, and she even adds a couple extra towels.

 

The key is that when wet the towels bed down, and the thing to watch for is to make sure the laundry drops from the "2 o'clock to 8 o'clock position". This indicates proper loading.

 


Post# 1078197 , Reply# 32   6/22/2020 at 02:59 (1,396 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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We've been down this road before.... *LOL*

www.automaticwasher.org/c...


Post# 1078210 , Reply# 33   6/22/2020 at 08:13 (1,395 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Thank you for sharing those great videos! Love the details on them. I have a 2 year old Siemens IQ500 series set. My washing machine doesn't have a few interesting options yours have. I love the spray jet. It certainly helps with washing duvets. Mine always struggles with that, I have tried several programmes. I also like the intensive button, adds some time to some programmes that are a bit on the short side. Also the 70 and 80 degrees settings are great to have. I can wash on 70 degrees though by choosing the eco programme on 90. Keeping an eye on your Youtube channel!

Post# 1078399 , Reply# 34   6/23/2020 at 16:52 (1,394 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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There is likely a very good reason why the Europeans go by load weight, not volume. Volume is highly variable depending on the fabric type. It's weight that taxes the machinery most.

 

 

Next time I'm really going to try to stuff five bath sheets into the W1918. I will let you know the result. It will take a little bit longer to accumulate them, though.

 

If the Miele can handle the same load as the Neptune, that would be very cool.


Post# 1078509 , Reply# 35   6/24/2020 at 15:09 (1,393 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Early on in days of semi and fully automatic washing machines American housewives (or anyone else doing the wash) were routinely advised to weigh laundry.


Capacity of average washing machine then was between seven to eight pounds. Scales were common enough in American homes for weighing all sorts from infants to various kitchen uses (canning, cooking, baking, etc...).

This or laundry manuals, owners manuals from washing machines, along with various consumer/ housekeeping manuals had charts giving weights of common domestic textiles. Such as shirts, sheets, pillow slips, dresses, etc.... You counted up what was being washed, then did the sums.

That being said different methods of laundry had obviously various requirements.

Maytag wringer washers were only to be loaded with enough wash so things moved freely, this regardless of total weight. By and by some variation of this advice became standard for American preferred top loaders.

When you get down to it all washing machines should be loaded only so things can move easily. You'll never get 11lbs or whatever rated capacity of bed sheets into most domestic washing machines, top or side loading.


Post# 1078591 , Reply# 36   6/25/2020 at 06:05 (1,392 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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I wouldn`t say that weight of dry(!) clothes taxes machinery most.
Just think of a large synthetic filled comforter. Weighs next to nothing when dry but once it`s soaking wet it probably weighs a ton.
In contrast a full load of heavy denim is quite heavy when dry but might not add that much weight when wet because of rather low absorbency.

To make things even more complicated I think those ratings by dry weight in Europe are based on mixed loads of strictly standardized fabric types which in real life situation are a very rare occurrence.


Post# 1078595 , Reply# 37   6/25/2020 at 07:30 (1,392 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Load size ratings

Technically, a manufacturer can put any load size rating on any machine as long as it fits for rating and testing.

There is a norm on what clothing is in a standardized test load, how much of it and how it is loaded is up to the manufacturer.



2 great examples for that:

Some manufacturers actually tell the tester piece by piece what to load.
It's a numbered list with instructions and positions and diagrams.


Another thing: Our consumer reports magazine tested a 10kg Hoover heatpump dryer some time ago.

Now we have regulations that opening a dryer door from the inside may only require a certain amount of force.
Idea is that any child trapped in there can push it open.
Same for fridges.

However, EU dryers are pretty much at their limits drum volume wise.
So that 10kg rated dryer was just as big as all the other dryers.

Result was that that dryers door would just pop open during the cycle on its own just because the clothing expanded and overcame that force.



That model has been revised since.




Post# 1078637 , Reply# 38   6/25/2020 at 15:23 (1,392 days old) by Logixx (Germany)        
Dryer popped ooen

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Wasn't that the case with several dryers in that test?

Post# 1078790 , Reply# 39   6/26/2020 at 20:10 (1,391 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Well, the sensible answer would seem to be to combine both volume and weight into one's judgement of how much to load into a washer, esp a front loader.

 

Alternatively, get a tub and a washboard and do it all by hand.

 


Post# 1078844 , Reply# 40   6/27/2020 at 03:46 (1,391 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Bosch 4D Vortex wash System, 10 KG, 1600 Spin Washing Machin

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The more I see your videos the more I like this new range and styling of Bosch washing machines Matt, great to see all the different wash programmes and features.

The display is uncluttered, functional and easy to navigate - and exceptional color graphics with an "Easy To See" view panel.

Great work on the videos !!

Cheers, Mike


Post# 1079098 , Reply# 41   6/29/2020 at 04:05 (1,389 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

Thanks Mike.
I still have many more videos recorded! I've tried to get them all filmed before the lock down is over. As i know that then I wont be able to film as much.
But I'm enjoying filming it and using it, still discovering lots of great features!


Post# 1081828 , Reply# 42   7/21/2020 at 04:35 (1,367 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
More videos

I have recently added more videos to Youtube. Don't forget to watch on the youtube page for video descriptions, and video chapters!

Cotton Bigger load:





Mixed Load 60 Degrees C with Egg Stain:





Delicates / silk wash:





Shirts (2 part video set):









Towels programme at 60C (3 part video set):













Post# 1081829 , Reply# 43   7/21/2020 at 04:39 (1,367 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
Virtual Wash Race Battle

I've also done 3 Bosch race Battles with other Youtubers!

2016's Super Quick 15' Race:





2000's Bosch Hydrosensor Bosch Rinse Battle:





2014's Bosch 1hr Programme Race:





Post# 1082289 , Reply# 44   7/25/2020 at 03:33 (1,363 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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I hope you realize how jealous you are making all us Yanks who cannot get machines like that over here.

 

I *think*!

 


Post# 1082775 , Reply# 45   7/28/2020 at 04:22 (1,360 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

Sorry SudsMaster :(
Although, I'm sure 1 day Bosch will bring these over the pond one day? maybe!

I'll leave this full length clip here:
Easy Care 60 with IntensivePlus option.





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