Thread Number: 83619
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
There's a livestream of a Speed Queen Top Loader full of garden tools . |
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Post# 1079514   7/1/2020 at 20:06 (1,366 days old) by verizonbear (Glen Burnie )   |   | |
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Post# 1079515 , Reply# 1   7/1/2020 at 20:08 (1,366 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 1079536 , Reply# 2   7/1/2020 at 22:24 (1,366 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 1079538 , Reply# 3   7/1/2020 at 22:40 (1,366 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1079543 , Reply# 4   7/1/2020 at 23:41 (1,366 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 1079563 , Reply# 5   7/2/2020 at 09:06 (1,366 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)   |   | |
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Post# 1079621 , Reply# 6   7/2/2020 at 22:15 (1,365 days old) by Spinmon (st. charles mo )   |   | |
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Jeez,SQ. Drop this UN-washer and do whatever it takes to build only transmission style machines in base/mol/tol. If you want adventure,offer some COLORS. But don't show us any more non-laundry items being ''washed''. |
Post# 1079678 , Reply# 7   7/3/2020 at 11:34 (1,364 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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I'm still curious as to how many people commenting on this machine have used it?
*edit* I get defensive on this because I see people always dogging this machine and they've never used them. Go buy one of these, use it, form an opinion of it. Then buy one of the whirlpool/lg/maytag/ge/samsung top load popular advertised all over machines, use that and then use the speed queen again. People want to cram heavy a** blankets and baskets full of clothes in these modern top loaders and none of them can handle it for long periods except the speed queen TR series. For what people want to wash, this machine handles it better and performs better than the agitatorless machines. I've washed several loads of shop rags and moving blankets in almost every top load we sell and the TR series handles them better and spins them better. This post was last edited 07/03/2020 at 12:33 |
Post# 1079686 , Reply# 8   7/3/2020 at 13:29 (1,364 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Joshua, I have used this machine, We sell this machine, for the amount of water it uses it just not do a good job on really dirty or large loads,
You are using some pretty lame washers if this SQ TR washer actually cleans dirty shop rags better than about any other TL washer ever sold, Large moving blankets should be washed in a FL washer for decent even cleaning.
Speed Queen knows it is substandard in cleaning performance which it has not appeared in commercial settings.
SQ though they could get away a simplified design and it failed badly, they lost more than 1/2 of their sales, Frigidaire marketed almost the same machine 6 years ago and abandoned it after 2 years, No one is more disappointed than we are we lost a lot of sales due to this blunder.
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Post# 1079689 , Reply# 9   7/3/2020 at 14:03 (1,364 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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Small Point: I said "in almost every top load we sell" meaning current offerings from the brands we sell.
Not ever sold; not discontinued items. The TR series speed queen will handle day to day household usage better than the current top load offerings from our other vendors. We sell the GE GTW220 and GTX22 pair more than we sell any other top load pair because of price point. When people are looking at a 999, 1099 and 1199 top load washer, the speed queen tr series is better money spent than other similar priced top load washers. They are more durable, they move more water and they handle bulkier loads better. Put a sleeping bag in this or an lg or samsung or even whirlpool/maytag and see which one runs the whole cycle quieter and quicker and still gets the same results or better. We have had two come back for clean-ability reasons. Both were unopened, both had posts printed from this site that they found on google. Most, if not all, of the other offerings the TR series is designed to compete with aren't available in commercial offerings... The TR series is aimed at the home customer, why would you not look at the comparison between home machines? Aside from the fact that we have two complexes that use these in their common laundry rooms simply because they have less service issues from being over loaded. And having taken these machines apart, if I owned rentals and needed something for common laundry, I would purchase the TR series and have an aftermarket coin/timer installed controlling the outlet because these machines can take a beating. There aren't any gears, just a 1 hp motor driving a fixed shaft and pulley and an independent drain pump. |
Post# 1079695 , Reply# 12   7/3/2020 at 15:29 (1,364 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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Remember the famous "sand test" that Betty Furness performed for the old Westinghouse front loader? I suggest Speed Queen do a "Kleenex test". I'm sure the TR series would be the only washer, top or front loader, where the load would emerge perfectly unscathed...and clean provided they were unused to begin with.
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Post# 1079696 , Reply# 13   7/3/2020 at 15:44 (1,364 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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I dare you to do the speed queen challenge with tide pods and see how well it will get out tough ground-in dirt on the heavy-duty cycle with max soil setting and auto-fill. I bet it wouldn't work! |
Post# 1079700 , Reply# 14   7/3/2020 at 16:40 (1,364 days old) by PinkPower4 (USA)   |   | |
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But I am not spending my hard earned money to see if the TR series will out clean the Maytag mvwp575gw I already have. My money is on what I already have :-). |
Post# 1079704 , Reply# 15   7/3/2020 at 17:53 (1,364 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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The TC 5 and the TR series aren't the same animal. and I am not saying that they are. I am saying that the TR does better than a washplate/agitatorless machine.
And whirlpool/maytag can keep their washers equipped with the washplates and a stick. I've used the tr's, i've used cabrios and bravos machines. I've used the top load samsungs and lgs. I have watched these machines perform in person. I see what our service department goes through trying to repair the shaft on the whirlpool/maytags when the tubs don't float anymore. That is the number 1 repair on those machines. |
Post# 1079707 , Reply# 16   7/3/2020 at 18:39 (1,364 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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I don't think WP has any machines anymore with the floating basket design? VMW and VMAX both have non-floating baskets with a mode shifter. And I don't know if WP perhaps did something to mess up F&P's floating basket design ... but I've never had a problem with mine, and my GWL08 that my nephew is using is now 21 years old with no repairs except one pump replacement. |
Post# 1079725 , Reply# 17   7/4/2020 at 00:14 (1,364 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 1079760 , Reply# 18   7/4/2020 at 10:14 (1,364 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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Here is what SQ should have done to their machines...keep the transmission and agitator , but, change out the motor to the variable DC motor that they use now...that way the washer can agitate at 68 opms for normal and spin the load at 850+ rpms. I still have my SQ AWN311 and yes its a water hog, and yes the agitation is quite adequate , but spin leaves a lot to be desired. That washbasket will hold onto water much longer than it needs to in my opinion and the final spin is not long enough or fast enough in my experience.
When our lovely city decided to jack up our water and sewer rates that washer had to be sidelined. Going back to a front load washer was the best thing I could have done. I know some pine for a top loader that is old school, and I get that. The other thing , getting back to the topic at hand, I cannot imagine how nicked up and scratched that agitator and wash basket will be after this idiotic "test". I would bet they won't show you that after effect. |
Post# 1079770 , Reply# 19   7/4/2020 at 12:18 (1,363 days old) by Logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 1079772 , Reply# 20   7/4/2020 at 12:52 (1,363 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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Oh the wonders of inertia... |
Post# 1079793 , Reply# 21   7/4/2020 at 15:03 (1,363 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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I think Joshua has raised one good point in his argument defending the TR, and that is a rental situation.
A friend owns a 4-plex and the common laundry room has one washer, a BOL coin operated Whirlpool, and one dryer, a Maytag. Both are less than five years old, I would guess. People who have never owned a washer and have to pay to run a load are 1) Not typically aware when it comes to performance or durability, and 2) Prone to overload to get the most for their money -- even though they won't.
For durability that translates into less need for repairs, I can see from a landlord's perspective that the TR might be a good choice for the rental application. If users are habitually overloading and impairing performance, what difference does it make if the agitator is virtually ineffective?
Additionally, I agree with statements above that the far-overrated traditional TC/AWN design is seriously sub-par at both rinsing and spinning. Personally, I'd never own either type of Speed Queen top loader. After tolerating our '97 Raytheon Amana for nine years and running countless extra rinses on loads of inadequately spun towels, plus having chewed up belts replaced every three years, we switched to a front loader for our daily driver and have never looked back. Don't even get me started on the poorly designed tinny rattletrap substandard companion dryer that only knew how to render extra-crispy results.
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Post# 1085270 , Reply# 22   8/16/2020 at 13:43 (1,320 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1085276 , Reply# 24   8/16/2020 at 14:38 (1,320 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1085277 , Reply# 25   8/16/2020 at 14:40 (1,320 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1085303 , Reply# 26   8/16/2020 at 18:20 (1,320 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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The tr3 initially had a lot of control board issues. The tr7 also. Oddly the tr5 was mostly spared. I would have to search the other stuff as it not at the top of my head |
Post# 1085315 , Reply# 27   8/16/2020 at 19:36 (1,320 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1085330 , Reply# 29   8/16/2020 at 22:21 (1,320 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1086055 , Reply# 30   8/22/2020 at 17:37 (1,314 days old) by 70skid (Texas)   |   | |
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I own a TR5 and TR7. It is true that my old (now retired and removed) Kenmore DD would clean heavily soiled clothes quicker than the TRs. That said, the TRs are much much easier on the clothes and the spin cycle is absolutely superior in performance to the DD - both in extraction and out of balance.
Like others have said, if you want to wash large loads of heavily stained cloth, you want an old DD machine that will beat the hell out of the fabric and then roll it over for go after go. For most people.....just pre-treat bad stains....give it a soak....use good detergent / oxy.....and TR be just fine. |