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Thread Number: 83736
/ Tag: Air Conditioners
Gas Air Conditioning? |
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Post# 1080934 7/13/2020 at 23:22 (1,380 days old) by Launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 1080944 , Reply# 2 7/14/2020 at 00:18 (1,380 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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My former neighbors the Bates family had gas Lennox air conditioning installed in the early 60's. It eventually went bad, and was replaced by a conventional Carrier system in the 80's. | ||
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Post# 1080946 , Reply# 3 7/14/2020 at 00:50 (1,380 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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Gas AC works like the Serval gas burner refrigerators.Use the flame instead of a compressor. | ||
| Post# 1080948 , Reply# 4 7/14/2020 at 01:11 (1,380 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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Post# 1080949 , Reply# 5 7/14/2020 at 02:54 (1,380 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 1080960 , Reply# 7 7/14/2020 at 06:19 (1,380 days old) by kimball455 (Cape May, NJ) |
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Post# 1080966 , Reply# 9 7/14/2020 at 06:56 (1,380 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Growing up, my next door neighbor managed the local Peoples Natural Gas office. Their house was a showcase of sorts for natural gas products. They had a gas incinerator in the garage, gas central air conditioning, a gas refrigerator and a dishwasher that used gas to the water. This would have been around 1967. The gas fridge was replaced with a conventional one within a couple of years. The dishwasher was replaced with a Maytag reverse-rack. The AC was replaced with a standard non-gas unit the year I went to college ('77). They had to stop using the incinerator when local burn laws were changed in the mid-70s.
Can you imagine calling a company "Peoples Natural Gas"? I chuckled every month when the bill arrived. | ||
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Post# 1080973 , Reply# 10 7/14/2020 at 08:22 (1,380 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Post# 1080995 , Reply# 12 7/14/2020 at 11:27 (1,380 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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As I've previously stated in the forum, the house my parents bought September 1961 was an all gas house, complete with gas central air. And there was not a 240V line for an electric dryer.
My dad told me that when the Astrodome was designed in 1962 and completed in late 1964, it had both gas and electric a/c. The logic was gas was cheaper to do the normal maintenance of cooling but electric was turned on to bring the inside temp down quickly in preparation for game crowds. | ||
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Post# 1080996 , Reply# 13 7/14/2020 at 11:32 (1,380 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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gas dryer commercial | ||
| Post# 1080999 , Reply# 14 7/14/2020 at 11:38 (1,380 days old) by variflexpghpa (Pittsburgh, PA) | ||
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HOW TO INSTALL AND KEY COMPONENTS | ||
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Post# 1081009 , Reply# 15 7/14/2020 at 13:12 (1,380 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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 Gas clothes drying is more efficient and cheaper to run than electric gas drying. That is, if you have natural gas piped into the home. Same for natural gas home heating.
I remember once learning about how a gas flame can be used to power a refrigerator, but have banished that from my memory banks. I'm not surprised however that it's less efficient than electric refrigeration. I suppose it makes sense if one lives in the wilderness with no electric service but a big LPG tank out by the side of the cabin. Even then, with the advent of more efficient solar electric panels and storage batteries, electric may be a better solution there, as well.
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Post# 1081011 , Reply# 16 7/14/2020 at 13:26 (1,380 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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This might be a decent explanation of how a gas powered refrigerator works. You may wish to page backward to get more of the basics.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO SudsMaster's LINK | ||
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Post# 1081050 , Reply# 17 7/14/2020 at 17:04 (1,380 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI) |
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The gas company for the city of Chicago is called Peoples Gas...
There was a This Old House season from around 1991 where they were in Tucson and they went with a natural gas chiller to cool the house. I didn't know it had been a thing even that recent.
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| Post# 1081062 , Reply# 18 7/14/2020 at 17:59 (1,380 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
In 1967, My Dad's restaurant had a Major Renovation.
He replaced a 1950's Carrier Stand up Console (with a water tower on the roof) with Bryant Gas Air. This was nothing but problems right out of the gate. The pump failed continuously. We averaged one pump per year. However, when it did work, it was like Antartica in the bar. When they first got it running they brought the bar down to 59 degrees on a Hot July day. He sold the place in 1975 and as far as I know it was still there for a bit after the sale. | ||
| Post# 1081081 , Reply# 19 7/14/2020 at 22:22 (1,379 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
 According to what I've read, half of Dinah Shore's ashes are interned in Memorial Park Cemetery in Culver City and the other half is down the street from me in Forest Lawn in Cathedral City. I guess I could take a walk down there and ask her how she liked her gas air conditioning but I'd probably only get half the story. Besides, it was 121 degrees next-door in Palm Springs last Sunday. Not exactly "walking" weather. Her home has been for sale twice since I've lived here. I'm sure the gas air conditioning is long gone.
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Post# 1081139 , Reply# 20 7/15/2020 at 10:15 (1,379 days old) by joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA) |
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1964/1965 New York World's Fair
The restaurant (Festival '64/Festival '65) was gas air-conditioned, of course.
The name of the pavilion suggests beans, cauliflower and broccoli where featured on the menu. CLICK HERE TO GO TO joeekaitis's LINK | ||
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Post# 1081788 , Reply# 21 7/21/2020 at 01:27 (1,373 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Still available Robur and Servel still sell them. Back in the 90's Trane had them. https://gasairconditioning.com/market-segments/residential/robur-gas-fired-air-conditioning/ https://www.roburcorp.com/references/installations/residential_home
CLICK HERE TO GO TO askolover's LINK | ||
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Post# 1081847 , Reply# 22 7/21/2020 at 09:51 (1,373 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN) |
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One of the houses up the hill on Tonquil St in Beltsville had a gas absorption central AC unit. It may have been your house Tom, or a couple doors down.
I remember John and Jeff hauling the outdoor unit down the the hill on the old trusty Craftsman hand truck, that thing was a heavy beast, the axle of the 2-wheeler suffered. I also recall that one of the coils was leaning on John's white Datsun 510 in the driveway and the heat of the Sun drove some of the fluid out of the coil onto the paint staining the car. Amazing what the mind remembers 50 years on when I can't recall why I walked into the next room! | ||
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Post# 1081906 , Reply# 23 7/21/2020 at 16:27 (1,373 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Some good reasons back then, still some today
Gas air-conditioning offered some advantages to offset the inefficient use of energy.
1) Lots of middle-class folks had gas but not 240VAC. 2) The heat pump/AC disasters had hurt the reliability ratings of compressor AC. 3) Properly built units were highly reliable, more so than the compressor units of that era. 4) Super quiet compared to early compressor units. Of course, today's absorption units are far more efficient than back then. When you can run one off of the 'waste' heat found in many industrial situations, they are more efficient, by far. For domestic use, only a few are still installed new around here and that's only because we have a company which makes the and distributes them in the area. Probably their advantage for the utility companies was that they saved having to build more electric generation plants. | ||
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Post# 1081924 , Reply# 24 7/21/2020 at 20:30 (1,372 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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Occasionally I visit an Amish bakery about 50 miles from here. It is always nice and cool in there in Summer. They have gas air conditioning, and their refrigeration equipment also operates on propane. | ||
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Post# 1084742 , Reply# 25 8/11/2020 at 14:54 (1,352 days old) by dermacie (my forever home (Glenshaw, PA)) |
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we had GAS air conditioning made by Carrier  | ||
| Post# 1084749 , Reply# 26 8/11/2020 at 16:38 (1,352 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
We had a house with an ARkla Servel unit
It kept the house very nicely, when it was working. Unfortunately at the time we bought the house it was at the end of it's life cycle. We ended up installing a high efficiency electric unit, but first had to have a new service installed to handle the 240V and then run the lines to the AC unit outside. Total install in 1981 was $7K.
To have replaced with another gas unit would have been close to $4K, and the efficiently was no where close to the Ruud unit. | ||
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