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Post# 1082549   7/26/2020 at 21:22 (974 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I am now the owner of the 1963 Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII that was for sale in San Diego for over a year. I believe itís a Imperial Mark XII since it says Mark XII on the control panel of the timer. Looked over everything on this machine and did a couple of quick test cycles and it works! The bearing will need replacing in the future but everything seems to be working as it should with no strange sounds or noises.

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Post# 1082550 , Reply# 1   7/26/2020 at 21:29 (974 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Sean, I'm so happy for you!!!!!

Post# 1082553 , Reply# 2   7/26/2020 at 21:36 (974 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Thanks Bob! Everything seems to work just fine on this washer and in case if anyone is wondering the timer is just like a Lady Kenmore washer from that era, you select which cycle you want turn the timer until it stops and push to start. When the manual button is pressed in it allows you to set the timer anywhere without having to chose one of the cycle buttons.

Post# 1082574 , Reply# 3   7/27/2020 at 03:49 (974 days old) by Kenmore58 (Rhode Island)        

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We had that exact same machine (in white) when I was growing up.  Enjoy!  


Post# 1082591 , Reply# 4   7/27/2020 at 06:25 (974 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Beautiful Pair Sean

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We have the same set one year newer in white with Suds-Miser, and the dryer is gas with a window.

 

By 1964 WP had added the Magic-Clean filter and a 3 speed motor, they had also beefed up the transmission and went to a 1/2 HP motor in 1964.

 

I just wish ours were the cool color yours are.

 

I took our washer all apart for rebuilding a few years ago and it needs to be reassembled, hopefully in the next year or so we are going to do another WP-KM BD rebuild-A-thon where we are going th rebuild 10-20 BD washers over a week or so.

 

John L.


Post# 1082613 , Reply# 5   7/27/2020 at 08:26 (974 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose)        
My family....

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...had this set in white but it was the next model down from MKVII. Lighted portion looked the same as these but the cycle selection was manual and just 5 pushbuttons for temperature selection on both the washer and dryer.

Post# 1082640 , Reply# 6   7/27/2020 at 10:21 (974 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I think this was rebuilt at some point since it has a newer pump, and the belt looks fairly new as well and it doesnít make any strange or funky sounds and it goes through all the cycles like it should. When I picked them up from Strictlybojack on Saturday he said they were used all the way until 2005, and the 1962 RCA Whirlpool LAJ70 my friend Tyler acquired was in service from 1962 to all the way up to 2014 and that Whirlpool has seen more use than my new Whirlpool washer from 1963

Post# 1082651 , Reply# 7   7/27/2020 at 12:04 (974 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Nice one

Sean!

Post# 1082658 , Reply# 8   7/27/2020 at 12:42 (974 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Thanks Vacorator! Will try to get phots of the matching dryer later this week. Wonít be able to use it since the blower belt is toast and the drum belt will more than likely will need to be replaced but that shouldnít be too difficult to find since itís the same drum belt as the current Whirlpool 29Ē dryers

Post# 1082659 , Reply# 9   7/27/2020 at 12:45 (974 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Mine is identical to the one in Whoís Minding The Store except that Whirlpool dryer is more than likely is a gas model since it has the lower access panel on it

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Post# 1082662 , Reply# 10   7/27/2020 at 13:00 (974 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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It's really nice Sean. Whirlpool used that box on the side with parallel rows of buttons for a few years before moving the buttons to one long roll on top. Akronman has one from around your vintage, too. I think Greg has one as well. Mark XII's are mazing washing machines.

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Post# 1082664 , Reply# 11   7/27/2020 at 13:14 (974 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I thought this Whirlpool washer when Strictlybojack created a thread about it a year ago was a Imperial model but turns out itís a Imperial Mark XII since it says Mark XII on the control panel of the timer. The 3 speed Mark XII machines came out in 1964 and 1965 I believe since the Lady Kenmore washers in 1965 had a 3 speed motor and the Mark XII was the Whirlpool version of the Lady Kenmore in 1965

Post# 1082669 , Reply# 12   7/27/2020 at 13:53 (974 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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Yes, I knew yours was a Mark XII, like Gansky's, Akronman's & mine, each one from a different year. I don't know the chronology. Glenn does. I believe that Greg said mine is a 66; it has 3 speeds: last button on the right gives the lowest speed. Would have preferred the Waterfall Magic Mix Filter to the Magic Clean, but that's life. Good luck with your new friend, Mark, and good on the Bojack Man for finding another rare vintage treasure.

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Post# 1082673 , Reply# 13   7/27/2020 at 14:20 (974 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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My friend Richard (speedqueen) has a 1965 RCA Whirlpool Imperial dryer but I think his 1965 Whirlpool Imperial dryer at one point in time was paired up with a Mark XII washer but the washer it was paired up with is long gone unfortunately. I believe I am the first to have a 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII since Iíve seen no others in the archives

Post# 1082701 , Reply# 14   7/27/2020 at 17:03 (974 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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What a beautiful pair!  Congratulations!


Post# 1082712 , Reply# 15   7/27/2020 at 19:19 (973 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Both Lady Kenmore and WP Imperial Mark 12 came out with 3 speed motors with their 1964 models.

 

Hi Sean, the drum belt you need for the matching dryer is not the same as 1966 and later WP built dryers, it is both a different length and profile. I do have new drum belts for this dryer if you want, get in touch.


Post# 1082740 , Reply# 16   7/27/2020 at 21:26 (973 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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John, he mentioned the blower belt is toast also.

Post# 1082744 , Reply# 17   7/27/2020 at 21:36 (973 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Some photos of the 1963 Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII dryer

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Post# 1082758 , Reply# 18   7/27/2020 at 23:15 (973 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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What's the model number of the dryer?

It may be an Imperial instead of an Imperial Mark XII ... being that it doesn't state so on the console like the washer.

It doesn't have thermostatic auto-dry (aka Moisture Minder) ... which may not have yet been available at that time, or may have been a step-up feature for the Mark XII.


Post# 1082761 , Reply# 19   7/27/2020 at 23:24 (973 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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It may not be a Mark XII dryer but that is what the matching washer is though.

Hereís a picture of the model number on the dryer


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Post# 1082767 , Reply# 20   7/27/2020 at 23:58 (973 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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8900 is an Imperial.† The Mark XII washer is 992, or 9-something.

Still wondering if thermostatic autodry was available in 1963.


Post# 1082768 , Reply# 21   7/28/2020 at 00:05 (973 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Not sure if auto dry was around in some dryers but timed drying was still main stream in most dryers in the 1960ís

Post# 1082781 , Reply# 22   7/28/2020 at 06:32 (973 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Pretty Dryer

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Yes one model down from the Mark-12, missing auto dry, BI clothes sprinkler, florescent light ? otherwise about the same dryer, built the 35th week of 1963.

 

John L.


Post# 1082782 , Reply# 23   7/28/2020 at 06:47 (973 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Interesting thing is when I went through this dryer yesterday someone took all of the light bulbs out of it and only left the ozone light in for some reason. I cleaned all of the lint out of this dryer yesterday and even cleaned out the heating element plenum while I had the dryer apart yesterday evening. There was some burnt lint inside the heating element housing but not very much but I cleaned it out while I had everything apart.

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Post# 1082793 , Reply# 24   7/28/2020 at 08:46 (973 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Lovely set.† All our kitchen appliances (and porcelain sink) were turquoise in the 1964 house (but not the 1962 WP washer and 1965 WP dryer).


Post# 1082795 , Reply# 25   7/28/2020 at 08:59 (973 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I ordered a new blower belt for my new 1963 Whirlpool Imperial dryer and it should be here by this Friday. Will definitely try it out this weekend and will try drying a couple of loads of laundry in it to see how it does. Should work fine since itís a Whirlpool 29Ē dryer

Post# 1082828 , Reply# 26   7/28/2020 at 17:13 (973 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
29" WP Built Dryers

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WP built dryers from 1949-1965 were all good sturdy machines, BUT they tended to be slow and use more energy than the redesigned 29" dryers that came out in 1966.

 

Hi Sean, your electric MT HOH dryer may even dry faster than this 63 WP even with its 800 watt larger element than the MTs 4800 watt element, it will be a close contest, your gas HOH dryer will likely loose the speed test with the electric 63 WP.

 

John L.


Post# 1082834 , Reply# 27   7/28/2020 at 17:28 (972 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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My gas HOH will still be my primary daily use dryer but I will be using the Ď63 Whirlpool dryer to dry laundry every now and again. I will definitely be using the Ď63 Whirlpool dryer with the UV light to dry my motherís work clothes since a couple of people at her work tested positive for covid-19 and I want to make sure all bacteria and viruses are killed off just to be safe

Post# 1082880 , Reply# 28   7/29/2020 at 01:58 (972 days old) by Spinmon (st. charles mo )        
Coool Machine...

The '63 WP was in one of my favorite movies,"The Thrill Of It All". Saw it with my parents at the Drive In when I was 9.

Post# 1082924 , Reply# 29   7/29/2020 at 10:34 (972 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Lint screen of the Ď63 Whirlpool Imperial dryer. Like this style of lint screen better for some reason

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Post# 1083120 , Reply# 30   7/30/2020 at 16:47 (971 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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The new fan belt arrived for the Ď63 Whirlpool Imperial dryer this afternoon. Will install it later this evening on the Ď63 Whirlpool Imperial dryer and test it out to see how it works

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Post# 1083152 , Reply# 31   7/30/2020 at 20:04 (970 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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When I put the new fan belt on, I donít see the part that moves the belt to the other pulley and didnít see any remains of it when cleaning it out the other day. Hopefully I can source a replacement part soon for it. The normal and super speed will sort of work but it would change the air output from the blower/fan

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Post# 1083156 , Reply# 32   7/30/2020 at 20:21 (970 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Looks like the belt shifter is broken.


Post# 1083157 , Reply# 33   7/30/2020 at 20:36 (970 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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The cable itself is fine itís the belt shifter that isnít working. I wonder if there are any on eBay I can buy to replace the belt shifter

Post# 1083168 , Reply# 34   7/30/2020 at 21:26 (970 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I plugged the Ď63 Whirlpool dryer in and nothing. Tested it on temperature settings and it wonít start up or do anything at all

Post# 1083171 , Reply# 35   7/30/2020 at 21:53 (970 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Blower Belt Shifter

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It looks fine, it looks like you have the belt on the wrong side of the shifter, the motor needs to be running when you shift speeds.

 

I have a restored 1965 WP Mark 12 gas dryer, if need be I could take a picture of the blower shifter.

 

John L.


Post# 1083172 , Reply# 36   7/30/2020 at 21:56 (970 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I took the motor out and this is what one of the windings look like. Not sure if itís supposed to be this color but something tells me there isnít something right with this motor

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Post# 1083180 , Reply# 37   7/30/2020 at 22:24 (970 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
1960s Emerson Motor Windings

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That is the same color as they were when new.

 

John L.


Post# 1083181 , Reply# 38   7/30/2020 at 22:25 (970 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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That's a beautiful set, Sean, congrats! Whirlpool Mark X11 is one of my all-time top favorites. You may just like the Imperial dryer enough to let it be your daily driver. I have the Maytag HOH dryer hooked up with the 160 washer and almost never use that dryer.

I remember seeing a few Mark XIIs as a kid, always wanted one. Now I have three.

The 61 in yellow, 69 Woody and 66 gas dryer. Still working on completing a set :-)






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Post# 1083182 , Reply# 39   7/30/2020 at 22:37 (970 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I guess Iíll have to look more into what itís not turning on. The drum and ozone light come on when you turn the timer but doesnít do anything when you press the temperature buttons since the start buttons are combined with the temperature options. Strictlybojack said it ran when he tested it but itís not wanting to work for me. Could be a loose connection somewhere and I am getting power since the drum and ozone light come on

Post# 1083183 , Reply# 40   7/30/2020 at 22:39 (970 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Non Starting 63 WP dryer

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Look at the door switch and check function.


Post# 1083184 , Reply# 41   7/30/2020 at 22:58 (970 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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It could be the door switch. Iíll look into tomorrow. Are new door switches available or are they NLA?

Post# 1083187 , Reply# 42   7/31/2020 at 00:16 (970 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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There should be two 'fingers' on the shifter.† The photo above isn't clear but seems the rear part is broken off.† Yes?† No?


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Post# 1083190 , Reply# 43   7/31/2020 at 00:29 (970 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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The rear part of the belt shifter is broken off. I can technically still get a normal and super speed drying temps on it but it wonít shift the belt to the other pulley and reducing the air output from the blower/fan

Post# 1083192 , Reply# 44   7/31/2020 at 01:08 (970 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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So glad to see these get some attention!
You have a wonderful mother Sean, and I am confident these machines ended up in good hands, and that is satisfying to know.


Post# 1083198 , Reply# 45   7/31/2020 at 05:41 (970 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Whirlpool Imperial

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Great you managed to find this Whirlpool pair Sean, hopefully you`ll get them up and running with parts and advice required etc.

Always loved those filter flumes, quite mesmerising to watch, looking forward to the videos in action !!

Cheers, Mike


Post# 1083208 , Reply# 46   7/31/2020 at 07:10 (970 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Blower Belt Shifter

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Yes you are correct Glenn, one of the legs of the shifter fork are broken off, in Seans picture I missed that.

 

I am pretty sure that I have a shifter fork for one of these dryers.

 

John L.


Post# 1083238 , Reply# 47   7/31/2020 at 11:14 (970 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Took the Ď63 Whirlpool dryer apart this morning and one of the wires that goes to the door switch came undone. Should work when I test it again this evening.

Post# 1083252 , Reply# 48   7/31/2020 at 12:08 (970 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Sounds good Sean!!!

Post# 1083260 , Reply# 49   7/31/2020 at 12:34 (970 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Only thing that wonít be working is the belt shifter but it sort of will work since it will only have the 4500 watt element on and will switch on the other 1000 to 1500 watt element on the super setting.

Post# 1083393 , Reply# 50   8/1/2020 at 10:15 (969 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Tested the Ď63 Whirlpool dryer last night and it works! Gets HOT on the super setting so this definitely has the 6000 watt element in it

Post# 1083414 , Reply# 51   8/1/2020 at 13:27 (969 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
1963 2 Speed Dryer

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This dryer has a 5,600 watt element and it drops 1000 watts on gentile speed.

 

John L.


Post# 1085094 , Reply# 52   8/14/2020 at 21:11 (955 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Another picture of my 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII set with the machines right next to each other

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Post# 1085335 , Reply# 53   8/16/2020 at 23:50 (953 days old) by JCerise (Ramsey, MN)        
Easy Two Speed Spindrier

First post here, new to the group. Wondering if anyone knows the exact year of this old Easy Two Speed Spindrier. Very clean, and everything works. Grabbed it from Aunt Edna's basement a few years ago with some plans to use it, but now would like to sell to someone who can appreciated it. I haven't seen a thread about Easy spindriers on here since 2018 so sorry if this was wrong place to post...J

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Post# 1085343 , Reply# 54   8/17/2020 at 01:17 (953 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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Not sure what the exact year of you Easy machine is but my guess would be late 50ís. Donít know very much about Easy machines since I have no experience with them but there are a few other people on this site that know more about them. Only machines I have experience and are familiar with is Maytag and Whirlpool belt drive machines along with a Whirlpool direct drive I once owned 3 years ago and those are all the machines I have experience with using

Post# 1085359 , Reply# 55   8/17/2020 at 05:00 (953 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)        
That Easy Spindry . . .

. . . is the most fun washer to use.  I had one I loved for years, but the pump bit the dust and I had no way to replace it.  Gave the machine to Tyler and he found a pump.  Hope he's enjoying using the Easy.

 

Jerry Gay


Post# 1090193 , Reply# 56   9/21/2020 at 20:19 (917 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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A video clip of the 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII washer in operation.


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Post# 1090197 , Reply# 57   9/21/2020 at 20:32 (917 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Charming, old-style wig wag sound.† :-)


Post# 1090199 , Reply# 58   9/21/2020 at 20:38 (917 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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The older style of wig wag is a bit louder than the newer style of wig wag that came out sometime in the mid to late 60ís but it definitely gives this machine character.

Post# 1090212 , Reply# 59   9/21/2020 at 22:32 (917 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
I would like to see

the machines in action on youtube. Whirlpool has made a competitive laundry line next to Maytag at a reasonable price.

Post# 1090448 , Reply# 60   9/23/2020 at 22:28 (915 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Quick video clip of the 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII washer washing a small load of towels

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Post# 1097283 , Reply# 61   11/16/2020 at 14:26 (862 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Took the pump off of my Ď63 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII washer (in the process of a refurbishment process) and the pump is much newer than I thought it would be. Looks like it could have possibly had the belt and pump replaced sometime in 1998 since there is a date of 2/3/98 on the drain pump

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Post# 1097313 , Reply# 62   11/16/2020 at 18:27 (861 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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you need to kick up the action/performance a bit with a wider belt.....

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Post# 1097314 , Reply# 63   11/16/2020 at 18:40 (861 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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That is something I might consider but I am leaving it the way I found it. Donít want to try to hot rod it and something ends up breaking. I will be ordering a new belt so that should help the washing performance a little.

Post# 1099089 , Reply# 64   12/2/2020 at 18:17 (845 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Finally got the transmission out, and this is what condition the upper bearing and basket drive are in.

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Post# 1099098 , Reply# 65   12/2/2020 at 19:27 (845 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
63 WP Washer Tear Down

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Hi Sean, it does not look too bad, you should not need new bearings, maybe a new spin tube, although if you use double top seals on both the agitator shaft and spin tube you should be OK, what does the top of the agitator shaft look like ?

 

If you clean it up and you will get lots of use and many years out of this washer.

 

John L.


Post# 1099104 , Reply# 66   12/2/2020 at 20:04 (845 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Hi John, I got a picture of the agitator shaft and this is the older style since it doesnít have the splines in it like the later Whirlpool belt drive washers use. Maybe Iíll need a spin tube but Iíll have to look into it once I get the basket drive off tomorrow.

Did Whirlpool use the same upper seals on the direct drive washers? I believe you mentioned that Whirlpool used the same seals and bearings on the direct drive washers but I am just double checking just to be sure.



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Post# 1099182 , Reply# 67   12/3/2020 at 17:30 (844 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
WP Built DD & BD Washers

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Used the same inner and outer diameter seals for the spin tube and the agitator shaft, there were several different styles used over the 70 years these two machines were in production but they are completely interchangeable.

 

John L.


Post# 1099504 , Reply# 68   12/6/2020 at 00:19 (842 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Belt Shifter

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What is the purpose of having a two speed blower? Seems overly complicated.


Post# 1099507 , Reply# 69   12/6/2020 at 00:45 (842 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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All it does is move the belt to the other side of the pulley reducing the air output. Iíve manually switched the belt to the other side of the pulley and it does reduce the air output and certainly makes the dryer a bit quieter but it doesnít work since a part of the belt shifter is busted off and doesnít do anything at all. One of these days Iíll look into a replacement belt shifter but it still works by reducing the heat output but not the blower/fan air output.

Post# 1099511 , Reply# 70   12/6/2020 at 01:28 (842 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Right, but what is gained by having less air output?


Post# 1099512 , Reply# 71   12/6/2020 at 01:39 (842 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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Provides a gentler drying temperature along with making the dryer a little more quiet.

Post# 1099532 , Reply# 72   12/6/2020 at 08:00 (842 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Reduced airflow rate helps avoid lightweight items such as lingerie from getting pulled/stuck to the exhaust port in the drum.


Post# 1099534 , Reply# 73   12/6/2020 at 09:03 (842 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Interesting. Never thought about fine delicates getting sucked into the exhaust port. 


Post# 1099866 , Reply# 74   12/8/2020 at 17:01 (839 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Got the outer tub out, and this is what the baseplate looks like after a quick wipe down. Seems to be in good shape and there is some rust on the left front of the base plate but thatís more than likely from someone overfilling the bleach dispenser since the bleach and fabric softener dispensers are right above that area of the baseplate. Plan on putting POR15 on that area of the baseplate and the rest of the inside of the cabinet to prevent it from developing any rust in the future.

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Post# 1100962 , Reply# 75   12/17/2020 at 15:50 (831 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Got the belt shifter fixed by using JB Weld Steel Stik

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Post# 1100986 , Reply# 76   12/17/2020 at 19:19 (830 days old) by Hippiedoll ( arizona )        
VERY COOL...

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2-speed dryer?

Post# 1100989 , Reply# 77   12/17/2020 at 19:36 (830 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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Yes. 2 speed blower/fan along with dual wattage (4500/5600) output.

Post# 1100990 , Reply# 78   12/17/2020 at 19:44 (830 days old) by Hippiedoll ( arizona )        
2-speed

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So does this dryer have 2 tumbling speeds? I thought moving the belt made the drum tumble slower & faster, depending which pulley the belt was on?

Post# 1100993 , Reply# 79   12/17/2020 at 20:13 (830 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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Not 2 speed tumbling but a 2 speed air output. With a lower air output, items tend to not get pulled towards the exhaust outlet as easily and is ideal for delicate fabrics. Will also make the dryer more quiet since the exhaust fan/blower is running a lower speed as opposed to the high speed.

Post# 1100998 , Reply# 80   12/17/2020 at 21:29 (830 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
I like the idea

of 2 speeds: high-speed for sturdy cottons and everyday fabrics, and low-speed for knits, synthetics and delicates. Would this apply for heat too?

Post# 1101001 , Reply# 81   12/17/2020 at 21:49 (830 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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Yes, the gentle speed has the 4500 watt output and the normal speed has the 5600 watt output. The high heat temperature will still work on the gentle speed but will take longer to reach 160F as opposed to the normal speed drying temperature. I will experiment to see how well the gentle speed dries things such as sheets compared to the normal speed drying temperature.

Post# 1101220 , Reply# 82   12/19/2020 at 20:40 (828 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Does anyone know where I can get this part? Itís apart of the pressure tube the leaves the tub.

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Post# 1101433 , Reply# 83   12/20/2020 at 20:57 (827 days old) by rickr (.)        

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FSP Whirlpool part, that has been obsolete for quite awhile now. I would suggest checking on eBay from time to time, or simply make one yourself. As long as the tube seals against the tub, and is the same approximate height and diameter, it should work.

Post# 1102073 , Reply# 84   12/26/2020 at 18:47 (821 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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An update on my 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII washer. Just got the baseplate painted and all Iíll have to do now is install the outer tub. Even got the inside of the cabinet painted with black engine enamel paint as well.

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Post# 1102954 , Reply# 85   1/2/2021 at 22:16 (814 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
Another update

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There was a good used transmission on eBay that was too cheap to pass up since it was only $44.00. Only things I had to do was add oil and transfer the original wig wag and cam bars on to the newer transmission since the cam bars that were on the transmission were bent which more than likely was from shipping. Not sure what the new-err transmission is from but more than likely from the early to mid 80ís.

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Post# 1105420 , Reply# 86   1/21/2021 at 16:12 (796 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
Update

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I got it all back together and it works! This is just a quick test to see how it works and yes the belt is slipping a little since itís a spare belt I happened to have laying around.

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Post# 1105425 , Reply# 87   1/21/2021 at 17:27 (795 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Old-style wigwag sounds ... :-)


Post# 1111390 , Reply# 88   3/14/2021 at 19:12 (743 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Full cycle video of the 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII washer :)

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Post# 1111393 , Reply# 89   3/14/2021 at 19:35 (743 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        
Nice Video!

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Just curious -- do the automatic dispensers work properly? 


Post# 1111396 , Reply# 90   3/14/2021 at 20:48 (743 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Sean, I really enjoyed the video. When you introduced the selected cycle, you simple said cycle #3, medium wash temp and wash for 8 minutes. My suggestion is to tell us what the cycle name is on the panel of the Whirlpool for each cycle you run. I like ou said you want to try and video each different wash cycle.

Post# 1111411 , Reply# 91   3/14/2021 at 21:53 (743 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Reply #89: the dispensers do work well but I always put some water in the dispensers when I am not using fabric softener or bleach to keep them cleaned

Reply #90: technically the cycle is a non-colorfast cycle but I just call it cycle #3 just for simplicity


Post# 1112589 , Reply# 92   3/24/2021 at 12:48 (734 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Another update on this machine, beginning the process of rebuilding the original transmission.

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Post# 1112829 , Reply# 93   3/26/2021 at 22:07 (731 days old) by casciomichael (Rutherford)        
Transmission

Enjoyed reading this thread. Are you planning on reinstalling the original transmission after it is rebuilt? Or will you store it for future needs. Do you run the RCAís more than the Maytags?

Post# 1112830 , Reply# 94   3/26/2021 at 22:21 (731 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I plan on reinstalling the transmission sometime in the near future after itís all rebuilt but Iíll keep it on hand in the meantime in case if the transmission thatís in it develops a problem. The machines I am using at the moment are my 1973 May A606 and DG306 along with my Kenmore portable belt drive washer and my Ď63 Whirlpool has been running reliably but the water level switch decided to start acting up and that machine should be up and going as soon as the new water level switch arrives for it and it should be here by the end of next week.

Post# 1114046 , Reply# 95   4/8/2021 at 14:57 (719 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Another update, found the correct size of pulley for the transmission and now itís working like it should :). Definitely seems to drain and spin better with the correct pulley on the transmission.

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Post# 1114121 , Reply# 96   4/9/2021 at 10:28 (718 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Hereís 44 minutes of old school Whirlpool Wig Wag :)

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Post# 1114129 , Reply# 97   4/9/2021 at 12:28 (718 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Is the spin clutch grabbing too much?† Should spin acceleration cause the strain and mechanism slow-down seen at 27:30 and 38:15?


Post# 1114132 , Reply# 98   4/9/2021 at 13:21 (718 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Itís the one retainer clip on the clutch yoke that can be causing that and Iíve adjusted the clutch a dozen times and itís adjusted to 2/16Ē rather than the 1/16Ē the Whirlpool repair master suggests. Youíll notice zip ties on the clutch yoke and I had to put those zip ties on to help hold down the clutch yoke so it doesnít engage abruptly. Hopefully the issues with the clutch will be corrected once the original transmission is all rebuilt and that uses a small spring or some sort of retainer clip that holds down the clutch yoke.

Post# 1114213 , Reply# 99   4/10/2021 at 20:34 (716 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Spin Clutch Is Grabbing Too Much, Reply # 97

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Good eye Glenn, It is almost impossible to get a BD WP washer to engage and accelerate properly with the old style full face asbestos clutch lining. 

 

WP changed to the 3 pad clutches around 1968 and eliminated this problem, I never rebuild a WP BD machine without switching to this better clutch design, they just work so much better because it allows the belt [ and water pump ] to keep turning at full speed as the wash basket gets up to speed, this improvement is what kept later WP BD washers from suds-locking after the wash cycle.

 

John L.


Post# 1114582 , Reply# 100   4/13/2021 at 21:35 (713 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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So cool that see that old gal running again!
Let me know if you want my brown 806s...they gotta go soon too.


Post# 1114589 , Reply# 101   4/13/2021 at 23:03 (713 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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Maybe Iíll look into getting that Coppertone Maytag A806 set sometime soon but am limited on space at the moment. I will have to sell my Maytag A810 set and will have to part out the Maytag DE306 since I took all the wiring out of it for the DG306 I got up and going again back in 2019 and itís not in terrible shape just needs to have new wiring put in it and needs a upper door hinge since the upper hinge seems to have disappeared on me and last time I saw it was in my garage back in 2019.

Everything seems to be working as it should on that 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII but one thing I had to replace recently was the water level switch and spent some time to adjust it but seems to not do a partial drain on the super wash and it does drain out some water but not a partial drain like it did with the original water level switch. I have a pressure switch in my parts stash from a old Maytag and maybe Iíll put that on but Iíll have to see if it will work or not.


Post# 1114650 , Reply# 102   4/14/2021 at 19:25 (712 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Now hereís another issue I am having. I got a new water level switch installed and it works but it doesnít really seem to do the partial drain on the super wash cycle and only drains about 1/4 of the water instead of 1/2 of the water.

Post# 1114656 , Reply# 103   4/14/2021 at 21:00 (712 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        
Water Level Switch

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Those can be adjusted


Post# 1114659 , Reply# 104   4/14/2021 at 21:16 (712 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Water level switches are adjustable but I put in another water level switch and it does the same thing. I am beginning to think itís the piece I made out of pvc pipes and I might have to cut it down to see if that will correct the issue I am having with it not doing the proper partial drain on the super wash cycle.

Post# 1114660 , Reply# 105   4/14/2021 at 21:16 (712 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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How did you source the part?† There can be differences in the reset point from one switch to another.† I recall that some have a variable reset point that moves up/down with the selected level.† Others have a fixed reset point.† Some may have an adjustment for it, maybe some don't.


Post# 1114741 , Reply# 106   4/15/2021 at 19:26 (711 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Hereís the original water level switch that came out of my 1963 Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII washer

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Post# 1114908 , Reply# 107   4/17/2021 at 18:55 (709 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Does anyone know what the part number for these Whirlpool water level switches is?

Post# 1114910 , Reply# 108   4/17/2021 at 19:20 (709 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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I have dryer parts diagrams for that period but nothing for washers.


Post# 1114938 , Reply# 109   4/17/2021 at 22:16 (709 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I figured it out. Turns out the parts I made for the water level switch that is on the side of the tub was a bit on the tall side and I cut it down little by little and now it works like itís supposed to. Only thing left I have to do is do the screw adjustment since it doesnít quite fill to the top but Iíll do that sometime tomorrow since itís dark outside.

Post# 1116053 , Reply# 110   5/1/2021 at 10:25 (696 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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What do the "manual" over dial do?
Transmission: you probably purchased the transmission from the same seller I purchased mine, he had a bunch on sale for that price.
Though yours looks much better than what I got and I was told he would send the best one he had.
I also got the camshafts bented in shipping but I straightened them using a hammer.
As for oil I didn't add any to it, thought , should I have?


Post# 1116054 , Reply# 111   5/1/2021 at 10:28 (696 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Sorry I didn't realise the answer to my manual button question was right there in the first post.

Post# 1116057 , Reply# 112   5/1/2021 at 11:11 (696 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Oh and of course congratulations!
I can only dream of having one of those beauties one day, for now.


Post# 1116065 , Reply# 113   5/1/2021 at 12:53 (696 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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I definitely would have added oil to it and if you donít add oil and use it for many years the transmission can lock up and the transmission on my Kenmore portable belt drive washer was for sure locked up when I got it and added 40 weight oil and brought it back to life (yes, 40 weight motor oil isnít the correct oil but itís what I had in hand at the time) and has been working fine for the 4 years Iíve owned it.

I am doing a quote ďrebuildĒ or the original transmission that was in my 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII and all I am really doing is cleaning things up, installing a new agitator shaft and agitator shaft seal and spring, putting some fresh new 50 weight motor oil in and putting it back together.


Post# 1116071 , Reply# 114   5/1/2021 at 13:38 (696 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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My old one locked up because of water damage.
Still have to open it and I know the more I wait the worse will be.
I also will have to replace the shaft but again I plan to move so... Whatever I will leave will probably just not be used so would be "wasted work".
I imagined that the transmission I got already had oil in it and I didn't see any considerable spill in the package, but thinking of it probably it's because it needs it.
I can add some through the vent perhaps. With a syringe or something the next time I open the back
How much did you add?


Post# 1116079 , Reply# 115   5/1/2021 at 16:35 (696 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Iíd adjust a little oil at a time and told put a paper clip in to measure how much oil is in the transmission. John Lefever/combo52 will know since heís worked on hundreds of belt drive washers.

Post# 1116113 , Reply# 116   5/2/2021 at 00:32 (695 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Okay thanks. I will ask john even though I think I bothered him enough already! haha
I seem to remember reading something about it in the past, I seem to recall it should be half full. But will ask to confirm.
And I recall 60w oil, you say 50w.
Anyway I suppose it would work just fine the same.
Probably heavier is better for transmissions that are pretty worn I guess.

Over here in Europe there are still tons of cars with manual clutch and they all use 75w gear oil so I ask if that could go well?
Something like this?


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Post# 1116114 , Reply# 117   5/2/2021 at 00:36 (695 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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