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Post# 1082569   7/27/2020 at 01:52 (1,366 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Folks, I'm having a dillema in my life.

I'm DESPERATE to buy a large food processor because I'm addicted to homemade pasta and I can't simply destroy Kitchen-Aid mixer worm gears every 3 months making super hard pasta dough at least twice a week.
The solution is quite obvious: get a food processor as it can knead super heavy dough much easily and, if the worst happens, the only damage is a broken dough blade instead of a worm gear.

As I'm looking for a FP, of course I'm also thinking of other uses for it. I'm that kind of person that uses FPs very often, almost daily.


After MONTHS comparing, I need a final veredict between two models:

1) Kitchenaid 14 cup food processor with dicing kit, Empire red.

2) Breville sous chef 16 cup with dicing kit + optional 2 additional dicing kits.


Breaking down the scenario.

My kitchen is nearly 100% KA. Stand mixer, blender, coffee maker (I love my single-serve so much I could kiss it), toaster (also fantastic), 3.5 cup mini chopper (excellent) dual convection countertop oven (new and every day I discover one more positive thing about it), hand blender (5-speed, corded, I HATE it.), plus some accessories and I'm looking forward to get some more. (I have the all metal grinder (impressive), the food slicer (very good but one i had 20 years ago was a bit better), citrus press (IDK why I bought that because my mom bought one, exactly the same thing and it was always TERRIBLE, but anyway, I use it as it's the only citrus press i have)

My kitchen is color coded. Except for the oven and hand blender (and that's one of the reasons i hate it).
The KA FP has the advantage of being KA and being empire red, also 50% cheaper than the Breville. The cons are: the food chute is tiny, making it impossible to cut french fries (it doesn't even have a french fry disk). it has a dicer (only one size)

Breville: It has a peeler (maybe I'll use it for potatoes), it has 3 sizes of dicers (1 comes witht he unit, other two sold separately), the chute is HUGE (i mean, so big half cabbage fits easily. and it's REALLY powerful.

On the other hand, i can see Kitchenaid is slowly releasing new models and pulling the plug on older models. I don't know for sure if they will come up with new large food processors (after the fiasco last year with the 7 and 9 cup food processors that are way underpowered as they use the same motor found in the 3.5 cup food chopper)

Anyway, now i have this dilemma.
Both models will work great for the MAIN reason I'm getting a FP. one is the same brand and same color as everything else in my kitchen and I really LOVE KA. On the other hand, the other is clearly far superior (actually belongs to an upper category of FPs), but costs twice more.
Add to the mixture KA possibly releasing a new model full of bells and whistles (as they discontinued the two TOL models) and I may end up just like with my hand blender. (My husband bought it right when I was waiting for the new model to come in Empire Red and exactly the day he gave me (our wedding anniversary) Kitchen-Aid finally released the Empire red version, cordless and will all sorts of accessoriesand I ended up like Katie Kaboom right on our anniversary day.

I also don't want to wait to long, just in case the 14 cup in Empire Red ends out of stock (it's still available in some stores)

By the way... I'm very picky about my appliances and getting any other brand or model or getting a vintage, used or refurbished unit is UNTHINKABLE in my kitchen.

So guys, kitchenaid 14 cup, Breville sous chef 16 cup with the optional dicing blades or wait to see what KA brings next?





Post# 1082570 , Reply# 1   7/27/2020 at 01:58 (1,366 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Breville:






Post# 1082571 , Reply# 2   7/27/2020 at 02:12 (1,366 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
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I haven't used a KA or Breville FP but I can speak to the Breville quality.  I have a Breville Bread Machine and a Breville coffee grinder.  They seem to be very well made and knock on wood I haven't had any real issues with them.  The coffee grinder is used every day and the bread machine has been getting a lot of use lately and it hasn't skipped a beat.

 

As far as FP are concerned.  I have burned out a number Cuisinart FP over the years.  I like one I had because it had a really nice pasta maker that sat on top and made great pasta but the quality isn't there.  They don't seem to be made for heavy use.  I finally got tired of burning them out and bit the bullet and bought a Commercial Robot Coupe.  I watched them on eBay and found a really good deal on one.  Someone was closing a restaurant and the machine did not have a lot of use.  I paid less than half of what they are new.  It's a beast!  I suspect I won't be buying another.  I think I paid around $400ish for it which is what I suspect you'll pay for the Breville or close to it.  If you can get past the fact that it won't match your other things it might be a good option.  I'm really glad I did it.  They are made for the long haul.


Post# 1082572 , Reply# 3   7/27/2020 at 02:24 (1,366 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Kitchen-Aid:






Post# 1082576 , Reply# 4   7/27/2020 at 04:09 (1,366 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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KitchenAid has cheapened a lot of their food processors by not using an induction motor anymore. The cheap motors are not only underpowered but also not very durable. OK when you don't use them a lot but if you do, you'd better stick with one that has an induction motor. You can tell by turning it on and off, a foodprocessor with induction motor starts and stops immediately, a cheaper one without needs some time to get to a full speed and also needs a short time to stop.



Post# 1082577 , Reply# 5   7/27/2020 at 04:20 (1,366 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Amy has tested quite a few foodprocessor


















Post# 1082578 , Reply# 6   7/27/2020 at 04:24 (1,366 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

I love her and I've been watching all her FP videos, but at the same time, the way she speaks make me desperate to jump on the screen and put her on a respirator or start CPR

Post# 1082579 , Reply# 7   7/27/2020 at 05:16 (1,366 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Magimix

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Are simply the sturdiest FP there is its powerful and has never stalled or refused to work, As they are used in catering situations they must be ok.

Had mine for years its beginning to look a bit worn but plenty of life left :|)

Austin


Post# 1082592 , Reply# 8   7/27/2020 at 06:26 (1,366 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

A food processor with a geared down universal motor sounds like a drill when its on.These have for the most part plastic gears in them which will strip when used to knead dough.Go to a commercial cooking equipment supplier and buy a Robot Coupe.These are VERY expensive but should last you your lifetime.Its a tool made for heavy commercial use.For a householder will last your life-and parts are easily replaced and available-bowels and blades.These also have the induction motor.And the induction motor equipped machine is heavy-the gear universal ones are light for their size.

Post# 1082655 , Reply# 9   7/27/2020 at 12:16 (1,366 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
I have the

Kitchen Aid food processor attachment for my stand mixer. It shreds, slices, and julienes. It does not chop. It has a nice storage case, and requires a bowl under the outlet chute. My sisyer gace it to me, as she found it not useful enough. She got a full size Kitchen Aid processsor. I've used it once, and my vintage Cuisinart does it all.

Post# 1082675 , Reply# 10   7/27/2020 at 14:47 (1,366 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

That KA FP attachment is useless to me. I need aFP mostly to make pasta dough.

KA mixers can make pasta dough, but they take too long and only very small batches follows by a long cool down period. I can hear the mixer is struggling...

Plus.. the load is too much for the worm gear (I'm on my second gear starting to fail).

Fp's on the other hand, do great with pasta dough (30 seconds is usually enough for the first mix) and I can see they don't suffer that much.

Then, of course, as I already have a FP, then the other accessories and disks come useful. But I'd never buy a FP just because of the disks.


Post# 1082684 , Reply# 11   7/27/2020 at 15:37 (1,366 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

Perhaps rather than a different FP you get a better mixer.  I love my Nutrmill and it will power through some very heavy dough, stuff that strained mu KA.  Down side it does come in white with red, but it's mostly white...


Post# 1082686 , Reply# 12   7/27/2020 at 15:39 (1,366 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )        

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My Mom had the same problems with destroying mixers making dough/Pasta.
My Aunt and Mom both had low blood sugar and they all ground there on flour and made there own breads.
Food processors/mixers would either break or bog down.
They bought a Magic Mill/Ankarsrum Mixer slash everything. Its not cheap but, its made in Sweden. My Mom used that machine for years and my Sister has it now and is using it.
It replaced everything in her Kitchen save for a food processor but the cuisinart was fine for the rest. That machine is a lot easier making dough and pasta cause the open top


Post# 1082689 , Reply# 13   7/27/2020 at 15:44 (1,366 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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I’ve always just made pasta by hand the old fashioned tried and true way.  It’s not hard, and kind of therapeutic to work the dough.  

 

If you have a pasta maker (the machine with the rollers and cutters, either hand cranked or on your Kitchenaid) this also works the dough to help refine it as you run the dough thru it until you achieve the thickness you want.

 

Making pasta by hand doesn’t take a long time and is sure easier cleanup than cleaning a machine.  If you’ve never tried it before Thomas make a small batch and see what you think.

 

Eddie


Post# 1082691 , Reply# 14   7/27/2020 at 15:50 (1,366 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Tom,

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If you are making that must pasta dough each week I would really consider going the commercial route.  I don't think home machines are designed for that kind of work.  With so many restaurants closing right now I know you could find a nice Robot Coupe for a hugely discounted rate.  That's how I got mine about four years ago and the thing is a beast.  It will do all the pasta dough you want.  I considered the Magimix when I was looking because they are made by Robot Coupe but then I realized I could get a commercial machine for about the same money and I knew I wouldn't use the extra attachments.  Mine has the continuous feed slicing, shredding, dicing and all that stuff.  I use the dicing a fair amount but don't seem to do much slicing and shredding.

 

My last FP before this one was that huge Cuisinart with the three bowls, etc. and I never used them.  I don't know if you would but it's just another thing to consider.  That Cuisinart didn't last but a couple of years and they wouldn't do anything about it.


Post# 1082692 , Reply# 15   7/27/2020 at 16:02 (1,366 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Eddie, I've made pasta by hand (volcano) zillions of times.

Nah, thanks.... the world evoluted... i prefer using my hands to press a button. worst case scenario, fo course, if i HAVE to, of course I will do, but why use muscles when we can use the brain?

SPECIALLY for pasta dough that is SUPER hard.

I had the Electrolux Assistant in Brazil.... I loved it, the problem is it's too big and not really good for small batches (i mean, batches that are too big for a KA mixer) but would also be too big for Darryl and I only, so not very practical for everyday use.

The electrolux assistent (that now has a different name and is no longer made by Elux) can, however, deal with making pasta dough with 18 eggs as easily as a KA mixer whipping egg whites the motor doesn't even notice it's working with such huge load.


And cleanup... well... we know the pasta dough is "ready" when the bowl is "clean". Because of the high speed mixing, it forms several tiny balls that look like "airsoft" pellets and then, it suddenly forms one giant ball, in seconds... (of course you have to finalize kneading by hand for 1-2 minutes) cleanup is SUPER easy. just toss everything in the DW. Slow mixers, like LA or the electrolux, try to knead everything together, which is much more difficult for any motor (but the Assistent is wonderful for those monster loads.)

Years ago I had a Philips/Walita food processor that had a separate bowl for dough/batter. it was the very best "pasta mixing" machine I've ever had. Good as the Electrolux assistent, but worked great with smaller batches. at that time I had exactly this and the assistent in my kitchen.



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Post# 1082706 , Reply# 16   7/27/2020 at 18:09 (1,366 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
I have not used my

K45 vintage 1990 to make pasta. I have a pasta machine from Italy. It mixes it quickly, and extrudes in reverse. The dough isn't very heavy. You add the semolina, other flour, and salt. once it turns a few times you drizzle in olice oil, a beaten egg, and just enough water so the mixture becomes pea size pebbles, then you extrude with one of a dozen dies of choice. I can't imagine a pasta recipe that strains a Kitchen Aid. Possibly the pasta roller accessory, but I don't have one.
I've made brioche dough, which is dense, rye bread, and Nieman Marcus cookies which are super dense with no strain on the motor.


Post# 1082709 , Reply# 17   7/27/2020 at 18:36 (1,366 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

That's the problem with KA... the dough never turns into peebles... it's a huge ball with the hook trying to cut through it.


Post# 1082729 , Reply# 18   7/27/2020 at 20:23 (1,365 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Breville. Or, genuine Commercial Hobart. Never KA

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Kitchen Aid, today, is all about the look and not about the durability.

Sadly.

You get some really well engineered stuff and then there's the trash when some bean-counter has taken a really well-engineered product and raped it.

Nothing to be done about it, they're Whirlpool which, in 2020, is another word for trash.

 

Buy Hobart or Breville. Or, get a light duty commercial pasta maker. Light Duty will cover your needs perfectly for years.

 

I'm so mad at KA for their trashy mixers, I'm done with anything after their takeover for good.


Post# 1082733 , Reply# 19   7/27/2020 at 20:44 (1,365 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Panthera... not everything is trash...

The dual convection oven is AWESOME! Super accurate, heat is super even, everything comes out just perfect.

I'm really glad I purchased it.


Post# 1082734 , Reply# 20   7/27/2020 at 20:46 (1,365 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

I also can't complain about the mixer (mine has metal gears). the only problem is pasta dough, that is challenging for ANY mixer.

Btw, the pasta roller is way easier on the gears, even with super hard dough. I "work" the dough using the roller and never had an issue.


Post# 1082812 , Reply# 21   7/28/2020 at 14:49 (1,365 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
A dough hook is for dough, Breville;

not pasta! A pasta machine has a double, or triple rotating horizontal paddle folding the mixture like a paddle wheel boat. A frined bough a Breville round the bowl mixer and tried making white bread with it. The nylon or whatever gears stripped. It was a month old.

Post# 1082833 , Reply# 22   7/28/2020 at 17:27 (1,365 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

LOL! That's why I'm getting a FP
FPs (with the dough blade) deal easily with super hard pasta dough, but not well with sticky yeast doughs.

Bread ina FP? A Mistake that we make once in life and probably many of us destroyed their first FPs doing that. (I had to destroy 2 and they were great and freaking expensive TOL FPs from the 80's, just to be really sure hahahaha)


Post# 1082905 , Reply# 23   7/29/2020 at 06:05 (1,364 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I use a food processor primarily for bread dough and would have no other than the Cuisinart Custom 14 (14-cup capacity). It is also the top-rated processor by America’s Test Kitchen. Price is around $200. (Note: Other Cuisinart models score lower than the Custom 14.)

 

The 12-cup Breville BFP660 is next on the list; price around $300.

 

 CR’s top-rated model is the 16-cup Breville BFP800XL/A with an overall score of 81. Don’t think they test the machines on bread dough, anymore, unfortunately. Price is upwards of $700. The 12-cup Breville BFP660 is further down the list, with an overall score of 64. Price around $300.

 

KitchenAid processors are middle-of-the-pack at both CR and ATK. Had one back in the early 2000s, and frankly, have no desire to try the brand again. Didn’t have the muscle for bread dough.


Post# 1082907 , Reply# 24   7/29/2020 at 06:24 (1,364 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
We all have such wildly different experiences

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I had the Cuisinart (I think the 14 cup) it had the three bowls and the attachment caddy.  I don't have it anymore so I attached a photo.  I had nothing but trouble with it.  When I tried to make any kind of heavy dough in it (usually pizza dough) the lid would disengage and the machine would stop.  The controls didn't work half the time.  The pulse button would stick so if I was pulsing an onion for example I had to hold on to the plug to pull it because I never knew when it would stick.  I gave it to a friend of mine who was going to tinker with the controls to see if he could fix it.  He told me it didn't fail for him as often as it did for me.

 

I know they are supposed to be good machines and most likely I had a lemon.  This was at least the third Cuisinart I had over the years.  Cuisinart wouldn't do anything about the failing controls because I had just exceeded the warranty.  And back then I know I paid over $300 for it.  This is when I finally decided to bite the bullet and go for the commercial machine. 


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Post# 1082913 , Reply# 25   7/29/2020 at 08:37 (1,364 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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The only Cuisinart food processor to own is the Custom Classic 14 pictured below. Nearly all the newer, fancier Cuisinart models--as you pointed out, Ralph--are middling performers at best. 

 

Reminds me a bit of Speed Queen's strategy. The performance of their redesigned TR top-loader did not impress SQ aficionados, so Alliance soon made one of the classic models available, as well.

 

While I'm generally the first in line to try a brand's latest offerings, the above-mentioned are two instances in which the "classic"designs are the better performers.

 

 


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Post# 1082917 , Reply# 26   7/29/2020 at 09:23 (1,364 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Ralph, that Cuisinart model is part of their "value" line, nowhere near constructed like the classic, original Cuisinarts. It's the equivalent of Newton Maytags vs. Atlantis Maytags that were essentially Norgetags.

Post# 1082922 , Reply# 27   7/29/2020 at 10:11 (1,364 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
I didn't know that...

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That likely explains why I had the experience I had with it.  It was clearly not made as well as some of the older machines I had and a disappointment.  Now that I think about it, I may have bought that off of QVC but I can't be sure as its been a number of years.  If I did that makes sense because it seems some of their products (not all) look like a higher end model but aren't quite the same.  


Post# 1082965 , Reply# 28   7/29/2020 at 17:09 (1,364 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
The Hobart 5 quart commercial mixer is just what you need.

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These little guys have been around forever and are tough as nails. 

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Post# 1082991 , Reply# 29   7/29/2020 at 20:02 (1,363 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        
another vote for Robot Coupe

I was a professional cook for 30 years.

First place I worked used to buy Brevilles and had to replace them every few months. They got hard use from unsympathetic ham-fisted people. (not me...)

They eventually stumped up for a Robot. It was idiot proof and bullet proof. A fantastic machine.

Next place I worked also had a Robot. It never needed any attention in the 15 years I worked there. Still as good as new.

 

Breville is nothing special here in Australia. It is a long established Aussie company, has cheap models built to a price, and quality models that are much better. I suspect they have created an "upmarket" image overseas by only selling their top end models. Having said that, I have quite a few Breville gadgets and am impressed with most of them. I used to be a shareholder in the company that owned Sunbeam here, and despite my attachment to Sunbeam, when I compared equivalent models, tended to buy Breville. As a shareholder if we attended the annual shareholders meeting in Melbourne, they would give us a small Sunbeam appliance as a thank you gift. Most were dreadful... except the digital scales, they were great and I still have them.

 

anyhow, go for the Robot.


Post# 1083006 , Reply# 30   7/29/2020 at 21:31 (1,363 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

I'd love to have a Hobart N50 if I had loads of money to spend on a mixer. There's a reason they cost 3 or 4 times as much as a KitchenAid of the same size - they have industrial grade components that hold up under heavy use.

Post# 1083013 , Reply# 31   7/29/2020 at 21:55 (1,363 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Guys, thanks for all the advices.


And the winner is...

Breville Sous-chef peel & dice with the optional 2 other dicing disks

What made me make an exception and accept somethng that's not KA (that KA has something somewhat similar) was the huge chute, so i can make french fries;

It also eliminated the remote possibility of having a mandoline (even knowing mandolines are much more accurate than a FP)

Anyway. the Breville looks much sturdier and well designed than the KA and the KA is being phased out, so replacement blades will probably be really hard to find.


Post# 1083159 , Reply# 32   7/30/2020 at 20:39 (1,362 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Congrats! Did you get the 12-cup model? Give us a full review after you’ve had some time to use it.

Several Breville small appliances are at or near the top in America’s Test Kitchen reviews, including their blender, toaster oven, espresso maker, and your food processor.

I have a Breville blender, and while it doesn’t get a lot of use, it does a great job at everything I’ve thrown at it.


Post# 1083161 , Reply# 33   7/30/2020 at 20:43 (1,362 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Eugene, he got the 16 cup model most likely. I've been reading up on it nd watching Youtube videos today.

Post# 1083251 , Reply# 34   7/31/2020 at 12:08 (1,362 days old) by sarahperdue (Alabama)        
Robot Coupe

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Thomas,

It sounds like you've made your decision, but if you are still not quite sure, I have a Robot Coupe for sale. I would sell quite reasonably, but the shipping would probably be a killer from the states. I once shipped a Saladmaster food processor to Argentina, but I have no recollection of what it cost. The Robot Coupe is definitely heavier. It seems to be built like a tank and weigh like one too.

Best of luck with the machine you get.

Sarah


Post# 1083275 , Reply# 35   7/31/2020 at 14:35 (1,362 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        

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Is Robot Coupe the same as a Magimix ???

Post# 1083283 , Reply# 36   7/31/2020 at 15:05 (1,362 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

I didn't buy it yet...

Before i tap my card, i want to try it.

Nearby there's a fancier Williams Sonoma that has a kitchen where the customers can try the products before they buy.


Post# 1083295 , Reply# 37   7/31/2020 at 16:17 (1,362 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

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Post# 1083453 , Reply# 38   8/1/2020 at 17:04 (1,361 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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I have a Breville food processor and have been very pleased with it.  I've never made pasta but I make pie crust and bread dough in it often and it has been a solid performer. 


Post# 1083617 , Reply# 39   8/2/2020 at 16:35 (1,360 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

Hi Austin,

Its the commercial version of a Magimix.

I'm not sure why thats not getting more kudos here. My Magimix 5200 is 13 years old now, still has all the original plastic and has a motor with enough torque, that when you start it, it twitches on the counter. Only now, I've got a crack in the mini bowl and it could do with replacement, however as long as I keep liquids out of it, there's no issues.

Thomas, whatever you get, make sure its an induction motor. If it doesnt look like it could drive a washer, keep shopping.

Cheers

Nathan


Post# 1083629 , Reply# 40   8/2/2020 at 18:33 (1,360 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)        
Another vote for Magimix

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I know you already made your decision but I got a Magimix Compact 3200 XL three years ago and absolutely love the the performance. It's built like a tank, is super quiet and it's very powerful. No made in China crap here. This one is made in France and has a 30 year motor warranty. Last food processor you'll ever have to buy.

Post# 1083740 , Reply# 41   8/3/2020 at 10:20 (1,359 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Magi-mix

are very popular in the UK with professionals as Robot-coupe' is in France. I think Robot Coupe' was one of the first.

Post# 1084395 , Reply# 42   8/8/2020 at 20:08 (1,353 days old) by agiflow4 ()        

Weren't the first Cuisinart food processors sold in the US originally Robotcoup made machines ?

Post# 1084421 , Reply# 43   8/9/2020 at 00:43 (1,353 days old) by sarahperdue (Alabama)        
Yes, I think so

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I have a vintage Cuisinart and a Robot Coupe from the same period, and they look almost alike except for the labels.

Sarah


Post# 1084907 , Reply# 44   8/13/2020 at 04:14 (1,349 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

And today...... FINALLY!

It was kinda "sweet revenge" thing because two days ago my husband arrived late for a family dinner I was planning outside to "inaugurate" the balcony and that made me REALLY pissed off and made me postpone for the next day.

Today I woke up feeling almost like Beth Ann on Why Women Kill, grabbed my husband and off we went to Williams Sonoma in Santa Monica.

Among honest smiles mixed with some Beth Ann sarcastic smiles, a few minutes later, the very nice saleswoman was returning HIS card after charging the exact amount for a Breville Sous Chef 16 cup peel and dice.

I didn't get the optional dicing kit (2 different size dicing blades) because that would be too much (for now). My beloved husband already spent too much money in the balcony project and also I'm planning to get 2 pieces of furniture, a deep fryer and a pressure washer in the near future.

I spent a few hours watching even more videos and I can say I'm very impressed. I have a feeling that the pasta dough will be super easy for it. Finally I can say Adiós Kitchenaid mixer worm gears destroyed.

My Kitchenaid mixer still being loved and I hope it stays in my kitchen for many years. I have the KA Roto slicer but I'm starting to think this attachment will end up forgotten in the cabinet. I'll know that for sure only after I try the Breville in a real life scenario.
Using the Breville to grind meat.... Even if it is super fantastic, I still prefer the KA all metal meat grinder that is spectacular.


Post# 1084908 , Reply# 45   8/13/2020 at 04:16 (1,349 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Now only one little thing scared me to death.

The Breville is NOT dishwasher safe!

I'm shocked!


Post# 1084915 , Reply# 46   8/13/2020 at 06:04 (1,349 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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You should have read the user guide. I've known that all along and was the reason why I haven't gotten one yet

Post# 1084916 , Reply# 47   8/13/2020 at 06:07 (1,349 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Odd that it isn't dishwasher safe. Most food processor parts are. Magimix parts are dishwasher safe and I always put my Cuisinart parts in the dishwasher too.

Post# 1084917 , Reply# 48   8/13/2020 at 06:16 (1,349 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Occasional washing in the dishwasher...

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According to the user manual occasional washing in the dishwasher is OK.  I take this with a grain of salt.  I have a number of items in my kitchen that "don't recommend" washing in the dishwasher and they come out fine.  One that comes to mind is my Vitamix blender jar.  Some say it's OK, some say never, so about once every couple of weeks I run it through the dishwasher because it does a better job than their recommended method.  It's almost 10 years old and still going strong.

 

Maybe run it through the dishwasher only when you have something really, really messy or sticky that would be a pain to wash in the sink.  If your dishwasher has a hidden heating element in the bottom you're likely fine to put it in the bottom rack too.  Another option might be let it go through the wash and rinse and pull it out before the dry if your dishwasher has an element that heats up for drying.  Maybe the bowl will cloud or something and if it does it will just look used and loved and there is nothing wrong with that.  They probably say don't put it in the bottom because they have to allow for the "lowest common denominator" which is a machine with an element that goes to a million degrees for drying.  :)

 

My robot coupe also says to hand wash and I've been running it through the dishwasher since the day I had it.  No issues.

 

Enjoy your new machine!!


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Post# 1087029 , Reply# 49   8/28/2020 at 21:13 (1,333 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        
The eagle has landed!

Finally, it arrived.

I'm beyond impressed. It's really a badass household FP


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Post# 1100297 , Reply# 50   12/11/2020 at 23:32 (1,228 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        
Update

A few months later...

OMG!

How could I live without a Breville food processor all those years?

Talk about perfection... That thing is a beast!

Breville sent me the optional dicing blades for free (two other blade sizes in a separate storage case). and definitely, the dicing kit quickly became my favorite (actually even more than the S-blade.

I had a learning curve using the S-blade. Things I was used to pulse 4-5 times using any other FP, now I have to pulse once or twice.

pasta dough... hahaha... it does it with the hands tied on his back, like Houdini. 30 seconds and that's it.

now peeling potatoes... OMG, it peels 6 potatoes to perfection.... IN TWENTY-FIVE SECONDS.

It was horribly expensive, for a second I thought about returning it because over $700 is too much for a FP, but then I started noticing it's worth every single cent and the additional dicing blades made it absolutely perfect for all my needs.

The only thing that isn't completely perfect is the mini bowl. It works great, but I always end up with the main lid to wash. For a quick prep that I just chop small things like mirepoix for one dish, I prefer to use my KA 3.5 cup mini food chopper that is also amazing, but much easier to simply toss in the dishwasher (Breville bowls and lid aren't DW safe). If I need to chop something and the Breville is already dirty, then I use the mini bowl.

I definitely recommend Breville. I got what I paid for. At that absurd price (Williams Sonoma) I would be very angry if its performance was anything below perfect.



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