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Post# 1085422   8/17/2020 at 14:39 (948 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        

Can you guess what?

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Post# 1085423 , Reply# 1   8/17/2020 at 14:43 (948 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Whirlpool direct drive :)

Post# 1085429 , Reply# 2   8/17/2020 at 15:41 (948 days old) by Washerlover (The Big Island)        

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I think itís some kind of front-loader...Westinghouse?

Post# 1085441 , Reply# 3   8/17/2020 at 19:00 (948 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        
Sean is correct for $200!

1983 model 110.81362150 Kenmore 60 series 24" direct drive made in April 1986, so this must be neutral drain center-dial machine! Right off the bat, going to need some work. Lid switch is missing, water level knob is a bit broken, a little surface rust, which might mean some core rust. So far though, everything else appears intact fron what I've scoped. Will take it all apart tomorrow and do a thorough inspection and see if it even runs. Been wanting a center-dial Kenmore for a while now, so I figured I'd give it a shot. Might've payed a bit much for it--$75, but I figured even if it does have terminal illnesses, I'd be willing to put whatever work necessary into it get it working, since I've been wanting one of these for a while now. Kind of like a rare project machine for me, and it's not like I can't afford to waste a buck here and there, right? Probably not, again we'll see how it runs IF it runs at all tomorrow.

Anyway, here's pics: The last one I had to open to control panel and reset the cabinet onto the frame, somehow that got all out of whack at the rear, might have been from transport, I don't know. But I fixed that.

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Post# 1085446 , Reply# 4   8/17/2020 at 19:15 (948 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Interestingly enough I only paid $250 for my 1963 Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII set about a month ago

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Post# 1085448 , Reply# 5   8/17/2020 at 19:31 (948 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        
$250 Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII

I'd pay that, for a VINTAGE set of nice belt drives like that, if it were of course in my area and I had more room for one.

Post# 1085449 , Reply# 6   8/17/2020 at 19:49 (948 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Whirlpool and Kenmore belt drive sets do pop up for sale every now and again. I have seen quite a few belt drive sets pop up for sale in 2018 I wanted to get but they never worked out and think there was a reason for that since I now own that 1963 Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII set. They are in decent condition but will have to be gone through at some point mainly the washer but the washer seems to work as is at the moment. Not much to go wrong with the older Whirlpool 29Ē dryer but they have a separate belt for the blower/fan and those tend to break when they get older and had to order a new belt for the blower/fan on my 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII dryer.

Hereís some photos I took 3 weeks ago when I had the dryer apart for a cleaning/servicing

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Post# 1085452 , Reply# 7   8/17/2020 at 20:16 (948 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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Congrats on your 24Ē direct drive find!

Post# 1085454 , Reply# 8   8/17/2020 at 21:05 (948 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        

Sean- Yeah I believe you were telling me about that in the comments on my Youtube video (lizboz). Nice work there!

Mel- Thanks very much! Looking forward to working more on it! Hopefully next year I'll be able to get my outdoor laundromat up and running to where I can use these machines.

Post# 1085496 , Reply# 9   8/18/2020 at 10:35 (948 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        
OK, so...

Got the machine out into the shop, gonna see if it will even work for starters.

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Post# 1085499 , Reply# 10   8/18/2020 at 11:29 (948 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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It should work. Might make a odd sound or two after sitting for awhile but everything should work. I thought my Ď63 Whirlpool would need oil addd to the transmission or something done to it since it basically sat for 15 years but when I tested it on the spin cycle to see if it would work and sure enough it did. I always test machines I pick up in the spin cycle to see if the motor works and if the motor works everything should be ready to go when you test it on itís first wash load

Post# 1085501 , Reply# 11   8/18/2020 at 12:12 (948 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
how about

a filter-flo?

Post# 1085502 , Reply# 12   8/18/2020 at 12:20 (948 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
Do you have

a youtube channel?

Post# 1085514 , Reply# 13   8/18/2020 at 14:45 (947 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        
So the bill of health?

Everything works for now. Took it apart and wiped it down good, then ran a quick rinse cycle through it with the garden hose on a small medium-ish load. No leaks! Everything ran fairly smoothly, BUT...there IS however some gear oil slung on the bottom, and when it's agitating, there's a high pitched sqeaking that sounds like it's coming from the transmission. But that didn't seem to affect the overall performance of it. And the rust and grime percentage was actually not that bad, everything basically just scrubbed right off pretty easily. Cleaned up pretty good, but I'm not worried about getting it perfect at the moment, that'll probably be later on down the road.

Didn't have time to do anything else with it, have other things to do. Will have to come back tomorrow and run a cleaning cycle through it and possibly a full cycle of towels or something. In the meantime, here's pics of it before I cleaned it. More pics will come tomorrow.

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Post# 1085515 , Reply# 14   8/18/2020 at 14:49 (947 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        

And in case anybody was wondering, the lid switch was indeed bypassed. Though not in the sense you probably thought...

Instead of doing it the "right way" and just jumping out the molex connector at the top of the cabinet, they took a wire nut and tied the wires going to the lid switch underneath the cabinet.

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Post# 1085522 , Reply# 15   8/18/2020 at 16:44 (947 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I once had a Whirlpool direct drive 3 years ago that I loaned to a friend and I am not sure if they still have it but anyways I bypassed the lid switch on that machine using zip ties and did the same thing with the Kenmore portable belt drive washer. Not sure how to bypass the lid switch on my Ď63 Whirlpool since it uses a mercury switch and I honestly donít feel like cutting up any wiring to bypass it anytime soon but since it works I am not touching it.

Post# 1085527 , Reply# 16   8/18/2020 at 17:33 (947 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Pull the mercury capsule out of the bracket and tape it securely somewhere to the cabinet frame in an actuated orientation.

Post# 1085530 , Reply# 17   8/18/2020 at 17:53 (947 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn)        
My parents

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Bought one of those new in the early 80's with the matching heavy duty large capacity gas dryer. Beat the balls off the washer for years. The dryer was still running two washers later when I moved out in 2006.

Post# 1085534 , Reply# 18   8/18/2020 at 18:27 (947 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        

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What a neat little machine! Congrats!

Post# 1085615 , Reply# 19   8/19/2020 at 11:24 (947 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        
Next day...

Running a cleaning cycle through it as I type this. On the rinse right now. So far so good!

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Post# 1085616 , Reply# 20   8/19/2020 at 11:35 (947 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Finding a matching dryer shouldnít be difficult at all since they were paired up with the same dryers that went with the belt drive washers around this time and the 29Ē dryer will be fairly quick with this washer since itís a small tub direct drive washer.

Post# 1085617 , Reply# 21   8/19/2020 at 11:37 (947 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        

Spinning now...

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Post# 1085652 , Reply# 22   8/19/2020 at 14:29 (946 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I found one of those (slightly earlier with a spin-drain) this week too ironically. My BF was asking for a top load washer to use that he wouldn't have to handle with "kid-gloves" like the rest of my vintage machines. He normally uses the LG we have but was tired of the long cycles. So when I found this early direct drive I thought it would be a good addition for him.

The two things I found I don't really like about it is the first spin on the Normal cycle is low speed (why oh why) and the top and lid are painted and not porcelain. I may have to use a relay and some re-wiring to stop the low speed first spin. I do like the fact it does 4 spray rinses in both spins, just like the belt-drive models.

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Post# 1085653 , Reply# 23   8/19/2020 at 14:30 (946 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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This machine is certainly clean underneath for its age. Looking good!

Post# 1085656 , Reply# 24   8/19/2020 at 14:43 (946 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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One trick you can do with this model of Whirlpool direct drive is you can do a 4 minute pre wash along with a 14 minute main wash and thatíll give you a super wash cycle :)

Post# 1085665 , Reply# 25   8/19/2020 at 16:15 (946 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        

Now filming a load of towels in it. Video forthcoming!

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Post# 1085669 , Reply# 26   8/19/2020 at 16:31 (946 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        
One more thing, actually, two more things...

So firstly, something I found out that might be wrong with it is the low speed sometimes works and sometimes is just completely dead. It was dead when I had it apart, but then I lightly kicked the pump, and it just magically started working again. But the high speed works just fine. I wonder if there's just a loose connection somewhere by the motor. I'll worry more about that when I actually get to the point where I can put this machine into service.

THEN, something else I found on the under lip of the cabinet while apart was what appeared to be a broken snubber pad. Seems so far as though it spins normally and quietly. Weird stuff. But again, for the most part, it works acceptably good for now.

In the rinse right now.

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Post# 1085670 , Reply# 27   8/19/2020 at 16:35 (946 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        
In all honesty,

for 34 years (1986), that's not a bad track record at all, it's allowed to have those kind of small, miniscule anomalies with it. Great overall machine, definitely happy with it.

Post# 1085671 , Reply# 28   8/19/2020 at 16:38 (946 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        

In spin now...

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Post# 1085673 , Reply# 29   8/19/2020 at 16:43 (946 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Hopefully I can get my Ď63 Whirlpool up and going again later this week. Got a new hose for it at Home Depot earlier this week and I am just waiting for the weather to cool down where I live since itís been quite humid where I live. So far the hose repair is the only thing my Ď63 Whirlpool needs after 57 years and the belt and pump were replaced sometime in the 90ís judging by the condition they are in. Havenít done any mechanical repairs to it and seems to work just fine the way it is at the moment.

Post# 1085676 , Reply# 30   8/19/2020 at 16:51 (946 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        

Yeah, can't wait to see yours, that would be absolutely A W E S O M E ! ! !

Post# 1085679 , Reply# 31   8/19/2020 at 16:59 (946 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I do plan on uploading it to YouTube one of these days but since I am somewhat limited on storage on my iPad and become tne while COPPA thing on YouTube that happened late last year has made. Me. A little leary uploading videos to YouTube but it will happen one of these days.

Another thing is I believe 1963 was the first year to have the super wash cycles on the Whirlpool belt drive washers and hereís a advertisement from 1963 featuring a Whirlpool just like mine but in white

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Post# 1085687 , Reply# 32   8/19/2020 at 18:02 (946 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        
And, done!

So my plan is to get an outside laundromat going; as soon as we rebuild our pumphouse, my idea is to run some plumbing and electrical to there and create a spot for the two machines I have including this one, besides the one in our house. My other outside machine, the 2000 Whirlpool, which I never finished the post about last year, is doing fine so far, and I'm hoping to get this Kenmore 60 series and that Whirlpool in the pumphouse, up and running. Maybe next year, we'll just have to see how it goes, but for right now, they're going in the shed to be stored. And that'll conclude this series for now.


Post# 1085688 , Reply# 33   8/19/2020 at 18:03 (946 days old) by DDFan92 (Boise ID)        

Resting place(s) for now.

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Post# 1088188 , Reply# 34   9/6/2020 at 19:41 (928 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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This is the belt driven version of that direct drive washer from 1981 featured in todayís POD/Picture Of the Day

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Post# 1088192 , Reply# 35   9/6/2020 at 20:48 (928 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Quoted from the Picture of the Day page:
If you wish please feel free to download and save the POD image, the only thing we ask is that you please don't post this into the Forum threads at anytime.

Post# 1088201 , Reply# 36   9/6/2020 at 21:37 (928 days old) by mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)        

I like your new washer. Was really suprised the water level was so high, shocked actually. Thought it was in really good condition for an early eighties machine.
I hope it will stand you in good stead for many, many years to come. Looking forward to a video.


Post# 1088227 , Reply# 37   9/7/2020 at 05:43 (928 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

My sister has this Kenmore model in her guest house, and hers has the neutral drain.

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